Semper wrote:~Zekk~ wrote:History is just that, history. We are to learn from it, apply its lessons to the present, and move on.
Racism isn't an acceptable thing, but neither is attacking and condemning the person responsible for the racism. Because when it comes to that, one is merely racist against racists. And as many wise men have said before; two wrongs do not make a right.
Unfortunately people obviously dont move on, otherwise there would not have been as much of a problem with what Zerathull said as there was. Like I said, ive seen many many comments on this forum that can be classed as racism, but no one else has moaned or made a massive thing out of it. Another example would be it would not be politically incorrect to call a black person black as opposed to african american.
Zekk, How can you be racist against a single racist person? Thats impossible. I point out the word RACIST. RACE. Not PERSIST... I get the point you were making though, I already made the same point in the GC's thread based around this.
Two wrongs never make it right, true, but then again neither does rolling over and being 'the bigger man' turning the other cheek.
@Jim. Thats a compliment Jim. Meaning the frogs dont sit there crying that everyone else thinks such things about them, you all just get on with it and make equally loverly comments about the rest of the world.
@ everyone reading. A few thoughts on racism, if you dont like what I type below reply with some logical argument or dont bother, but you insult or whine about this, and your actually just furthering my point.
The entire idea of racism is a farce created from guilt of the past. White people used other people as slaves from many eastern countries (which, no I personally dont have a problem with, all countries have had their idiocy patches...), and when the slaves got the rights they had deserved from day one, some of the white people were idiots and just couldnt let it go. So the idea of racism was created to quantify/describe/give a face to the aggressive behavior left in the wake of the dissolving slave industry. Only problem now is, it remains today with the same weight it had all those years ago and it clearly shouldnt be such a big thing anymore. I personally dont believe it is any different from picking on someone for being fat, bald, needing to wear glasses, mentally/residentially/vertically/financially challenged. If people can get away with all of the above I fail to see the difference.
You could say, well...ah ha! Semper, but you can lose weight, you can get a job, you can take growth hormone, you can have hair transplants, god you can get contact lenses and laser eye surgery! They can be changed with a little effort, time and money...hold the phone.. as dear Michael Jackson demonstrates, so to can the colour of ones skin. "Yeah, but Semper, the colour makes a person who they are, they shouldnt have to change that." Well firstly, they dont have to, secondly every feature of us makes us who we are. Over weight, glasses, stumpy and all.
I rest my case that racism is no more a crime then regular bullying/insulting, most of which I see ignored on a regular basis within these very forums, let alone in the real world.
I certainly dont see people in northern europe giving the italiens and greeks the top end of grief every time they make some remark about us, screaming to the high heaven racist! trying to exact some form of revenge. (Yet the Romans and greeks did like their slaves now, didnt they..)
Im quite pleased with that argument, it seems fairly sound. What Zerathull said was wrong, and he has apologized now. So im glad to see some people have burried the hatchet, and I hope the others can to, because if you cant well I hope the next time you insult someone in any way, you get massed to kingdom come, forced into vacation mode and near enough shunned by part of the community.
