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There is a huge difference between FUALL and TJP. FUALL is not based on military needs. TJP's entire point is to go up against us. There can be no true bonds there when TLE members regard the TA as cannonfodder and AB as 'farms'. Your hatred for the enemy is all that keeps you together and that's what makes you truly weak.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:There is a huge difference between FUALL and TJP. FUALL is not based on military needs. TJP's entire point is to go up against us. There can be no true bonds there when TLE members regard the TA as cannonfodder and AB as 'farms'. Your hatred for the enemy is all that keeps you together and that's what makes you truly weak.

yep, FUALL is not based on military needs, its based on controlling the game, having total power and no oposition!!

rhett, dont say things that you dont know, TA has been friends with TLE since TL was created, stop the propaganda, your not fooling anyone

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:There is a huge difference between FUALL and TJP. FUALL is not based on military needs. TJP's entire point is to go up against us. There can be no true bonds there when TLE members regard the TA as cannonfodder and AB as 'farms'. Your hatred for the enemy is all that keeps you together and that's what makes you truly weak.

Please explain the massive expansion that saw your empire become three times the size of TLE. If you had faith in your own strength, there was no need for it given that FUALL "Is not based on military needs" and such aggressive expansionism is not becoming of a social marriage given the amount of internal friction and outright hatred shown by your members on these forums towards one another, let alone the community.

One might come to the conclusion that self doubt in your own ability to maintain absolute dominance on this server forced you to waiver and lower the standards of Omega in order to let in a floodgate of players for the sole purpose of trying to assert yourself once more. Sounds like expansions based upon military needs, sounds like weak bonds and sounds like letting people in for numbers which is a nice euphemism for cannon fodder. What happened in the GA Rhett? Do tell.

Considering I was the person who introduced TJP to this community, you would think that I knew it and the reasons behind it far better than yourself. So pack your bags and take your egotistical and ill-informed propaganda with you before I start posting examples, case studies and irrefutable proof that shows you to be an outright liar and contradicts everything you have said there.

You are not a God here Rhett, you are a forgotten and unwanted relic of a bygone era whose sold out everything you once stood for in exchange for a last chance to grasp at glory. One of which I hope TJP will deny you and then you a left with an Empire whose integrity you soiled in a gambit that didn’t pay off.

*Waits for more and more independent thought alarms to go off*

Severian wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:There is a huge difference between FUALL and TJP. FUALL is not based on military needs. TJP's entire point is to go up against us. There can be no true bonds there when TLE members regard the TA as cannonfodder and AB as 'farms'. Your hatred for the enemy is all that keeps you together and that's what makes you truly weak.

Please explain the massive expansion that saw your empire become three times the size of TLE. If you had faith in your own strength, there was no need for it given that FUALL "Is not based on military needs" and such aggressive expansionism is not becoming of a social marriage given the amount of internal friction and outright hatred shown by your members on these forums towards one another, let alone the community.

One might come to the conclusion that self doubt in your own ability to maintain absolute dominance on this server forced you to waiver and lower the standards of Omega in order to let in a floodgate of players for the sole purpose of trying to assert yourself once more. Sounds like expansions based upon military needs, sounds like weak bonds and sounds like letting people in for numbers which is a nice euphemism for cannon fodder. What happened in the GA Rhett? Do tell.

Considering I was the person who introduced TJP to this community, you would think that I knew it and the reasons behind it far better than yourself. So pack your bags and take your egotistical and ill-informed propaganda with you before I start posting examples, case studies and irrefutable proof that shows you to be an outright liar and contradicts everything you have said there.

You are not a God here Rhett, you are a forgotten and unwanted relic of a bygone era whose sold out everything you once stood for in exchange for a last chance to grasp at glory. One of which I hope TJP will deny you and then you a left with an Empire whose integrity you soiled in a gambit that didn’t pay off.

*Waits for more and more independent thought alarms to go off*

*cough* BS *Cough*
Oh and try not talking about Propaganda too much. Your hands are dirty.

This is all **Filtered**...

I personally believe in ppl being friends or good sport between eachother in this game and normaly waring when there is a need but somehow its all twisted and some alliances empires are "SEEN" as mortal enemies and its like between eachother they are constantly seeking conspiracy and malice...



That for me is and always will be BS. Once a member of the opposite side asked me why I hate the said alliance and I responded: Its not that I hate it, I actually respect it, I just cannot love someone who hates me...


So many ppl alliances could have been on good terms or at least play normally war normally without any personal grudges and all this poo that we see nowdays.
I remember days when it was all much much more simple. It slowly started changing when the 1 on 1 (alliance speaking) was slowly fading away and ppl somewhat saw the need to overcome their opponents by presenting 5 on 1 and similar BS...

1. GA and similar pacts
2. Alliance expanding into empires

Both points 1 and 2 naturally cause reaction from the side which is able to create similar hemisphere


Whatever we are where we are, I disagree empires need to be gone or pacts for that matter but I do think that alliances, empires players in this game should be more tolerant towards eachother and that empires alliances players should be based on some MORAL codex so we wouldnt seen the bullying and all this hatered we see now...



Blue

SVaRuN wrote:That for me is and always will be BS. Once a member of the opposite side asked me why I hate the said alliance and I responded: Its not that I hate it, I actually respect it, I just cannot love someone who hates me...

Blue

exactly! ive been asked so many times why i hate omega, and i always said i dont hate them, never did, but since day 1 that omega has a thing for TA, the excuse was always a group of ppl that were in TA back then, but they left b4 the first war that omega started with TA, so lame excuse

There are smaller alliances that sit back. We choose to stay as unknown as posible to stop people massing just for the hell of it.
Often the newer/smaller alliances have to be careful - you can't just go to war with someone these days even if its quite even in size etc cos you now have to look around and try and workout which players from FUaLL or TJP will step in and go they are helping the people you are fighting because they are bored so just wanna fight against you. So with this most smaller alliance try to stay away from wars and if they do, they choose not to have them with experienced alliances even if they are about equal in power cos the older alliance is more likely to call on "friends" or even have "friends" join in without asking.
I would state my alliance as a new alliance but even i have had "friends" say about going to war and they would join - which is nice of them but thats not the point of an alliance - an alliance should stand on its own feet.

New alliances do exsist they are just not heard of as much as they dont want to attract to much attention and any who do get to page one will just be called stat builders which is why most stay away from there.

Lord Raf wrote:There are smaller alliances that sit back. We choose to stay as unknown as posible to stop people massing just for the hell of it.
Often the newer/smaller alliances have to be careful - you can't just go to war with someone these days even if its quite even in size etc cos you now have to look around and try and workout which players from FUaLL or TJP will step in and go they are helping the people you are fighting because they are bored so just wanna fight against you. So with this most smaller alliance try to stay away from wars and if they do, they choose not to have them with experienced alliances even if they are about equal in power cos the older alliance is more likely to call on "friends" or even have "friends" join in without asking.
I would state my alliance as a new alliance but even i have had "friends" say about going to war and they would join - which is nice of them but thats not the point of an alliance - an alliance should stand on its own feet.

New alliances do exsist they are just not heard of as much as they dont want to attract to much attention and any who do get to page one will just be called stat builders which is why most stay away from there.

yes you dont want to get "educated" now do you

if that isnt an anal way to keep dominance i dont know what is

Bad Wolf wrote:

Shornaal wrote:

Bad Wolf wrote:Does anybody make real 'Alliances' anymore?


Bad Wolf

The Man Behind the Curtain

Please define "Real" Alliances Bad Wolf.

The game has sadly turned into two super empires and thats it. Was chatting to someone about this last nite. You very rarely see other alliances going to war and even when they do members of the two super empires jump in. Sad times.

Indeed, a good topic of conversation.

It was nice to see TLE pop up ages back, because if you followed there history they spent along time planning there arrival. They picked there members. They had a aim and a goal.

Although now they are just 'the other guy'.

I havent seen an alliance / Empire in many moons that ive said " Thats what an alliance should be ".

Its a terrable shame, Why should there only be 2 sides ? Dont we need new angles ? Why do we need to all bunch togther ?

Does everyone even need allies ? offically or not. Do we need Allies to be in this game ?

Bad Wolf

The Man Behind the Curtain

We're old but a real alliance, and i don't personally like empires so if you're looking for the 3rd one, there is a very very little chance you'll ever see it, cuz most of the players are either scared of one side or another, and those who aren't are either fuall or tjp...

There are only a few of us that are not really scared and could actually do something, but won't cuz its pointless

True - doesn't bother me as i have only 5% of my army in killable positions but to others who are closer to it it does worry them.

Some are just stupid like a person ranked 60 something with 15 mil army and over 6.5 million super defenders and 2.2 million covert
Hell he even has on his planets about being highest rank with lowest army lol


but most people try their best not to get noticed/ picked on by the bigger alliance.
And it is usually the "not best players" in the top alliances who do it rellying on their sig.

Severian or Balor or whatever u call yourself, if you are REK or Genlucky in disguise, you may have some right to talk about the GA. As you are not, please don't bring your assumptions about the GA on here. As for TJP, it is a FACT what TLE members think of the others in the TJP. I'm not saying all, but a few.

And are you trying to spread your version of propaganda again eh? Svarun has mentioned he specifically began a friendship with the TA in preparation for a future war with us.

Here's a little piece of advice, next time don't rely on hearsay.

Severian wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:There is a huge difference between FUALL and TJP. FUALL is not based on military needs. TJP's entire point is to go up against us. There can be no true bonds there when TLE members regard the TA as cannonfodder and AB as 'farms'. Your hatred for the enemy is all that keeps you together and that's what makes you truly weak.

Please explain the massive expansion that saw your empire become three times the size of TLE. If you had faith in your own strength, there was no need for it given that FUALL "Is not based on military needs" and such aggressive expansionism is not becoming of a social marriage given the amount of internal friction and outright hatred shown by your members on these forums towards one another, let alone the community.

One might come to the conclusion that self doubt in your own ability to maintain absolute dominance on this server forced you to waiver and lower the standards of Omega in order to let in a floodgate of players for the sole purpose of trying to assert yourself once more. Sounds like expansions based upon military needs, sounds like weak bonds and sounds like letting people in for numbers which is a nice euphemism for cannon fodder. What happened in the GA Rhett? Do tell.

Considering I was the person who introduced TJP to this community, you would think that I knew it and the reasons behind it far better than yourself. So pack your bags and take your egotistical and ill-informed propaganda with you before I start posting examples, case studies and irrefutable proof that shows you to be an outright liar and contradicts everything you have said there.

You are not a God here Rhett, you are a forgotten and unwanted relic of a bygone era whose sold out everything you once stood for in exchange for a last chance to grasp at glory. One of which I hope TJP will deny you and then you a left with an Empire whose integrity you soiled in a gambit that didn’t pay off.

*Waits for more and more independent thought alarms to go off*

Actually, Rhett is a player in a game that managed to dominate the entire game for years. Not a forgotten and unwanted relic .....ok perhaps unwanted lol.

I personally dont think the domination of the server will end until key players decide to quit sgw. Rhett being the big one, with several other Fuall's included. I won't comment on who from the TLE side, because well.....it's my side



Look, hate all you want, but at least acknowledge the accomplishment. People have been trying to unseat ETL for YEARS. Nothing changed since I left. Before TLE, it was Crystal Force. Before that, it was Juan.


So far, the "fight record" is solely on the side of Omega. Omega being the core of FUALL.


Someday, I do hope that the players that dominated the game for years will leave. Thus, give the game a chance to recapture what it's lost.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:...Svarun has mentioned he specifically began a friendship with the TA in preparation for a future war with us...

ofc he did, we are that awesome if you werent so anti-TA since you created omega cause of a few ppl, you would have seen it too lol

Nox wrote:

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:...Svarun has mentioned he specifically began a friendship with the TA in preparation for a future war with us...

ofc he did, we are that awesome if you werent so anti-TA since you created omega cause of a few ppl, you would have seen it too lol

Omega wasn't created by ETL.. not solely, anyway.
Long story.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Severian or Balor or whatever u call yourself

You're missing a few incarnations so if you want to throw out some names to make people think you know more about me than you actually do, that’s aok

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:if you are REK or Genlucky in disguise, you may have some right to talk about the GA. As you are not, please don't bring your assumptions about the GA on here.

Well, when I posted Janus to the public, I surely don't remember you being in any of the conversations at the time. If you are one of those people in disguise, you may have some right to talk about TJP. As you are not, please don't bring your assumptions about TJP here.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:As for TJP, it is a FACT what TLE members think of the others in the TJP. I'm not saying all, but a few.

As for FUALL, it is a FACT what Omega members think of the others in FUALL. I'm not saying all, but a few.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:And are you trying to spread your version of propaganda again eh? Svarun has mentioned he specifically began a friendship with the TA in preparation for a future war with us.

Wow, one person's opinion. Shall I go into details about all the players and alliances you approached in preparation for a future war with us? Oh and god forbid me being close mates with some of the HC in TA, it was purely a military venture that I set out and formed years ago for just this one event.

SSG EnterTheLion wrote:Here's a little piece of advice, next time don't rely on hearsay.

But Svarun said...wait, didn't you just tell me not to rely on hearsay?

All your arguments are just as or more so applicable to yourself and your empire. The "I'm God" thing doesn't compensate for a weak attempt of an argument.