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Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:33 am
by Solus
your criticism is appreciated, similarly to what mordack and buck said in another thread, we need it to continue to improve.

you were warned NOT for the criticism, but for the insults you consistantly dished up.

and i know for a fact that you wont enjoy the military. hard worker or not. the military requires some form of maturity, of which through your claims of censorship, (and how you fail to discern insults and feedback from one another) we can see plainly you have none.

and to say that you werent threatening jack IRL, then why the hell did you post this:
I sugest removing that warning before you do something you will regret for your life.

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:08 am
by buck
Ya know, if i went through every post of every forum user, i bet i could find 3 legitimate reasons to ban each of them.

As it happens, we practice in leniancy, and verbal warnings, where we probally shouldnt....But we're really quite nice.

As much as i agree with what Auriel said, I must state that this thread, is quite frankly diabolical in nature.

Jack should well have been put through his paces as a section mod for a long while before he got made a supermod, And he didnt, That was a mistake in my opinion, others may dissagree, jack being one of them :P But the fact is he is trying his very best, and though his attitude may not be to everyones taste, he rarely steps out of line, Might i suggest to all partys involved, that if you could all practiseee in the art of respect, Then there would be no reason for such fallouts.

As it happens, Tetris, You need to present a clear and Concise case against jack, that is not what you have been/are doing, if you wish to show the rest of us that he is abuseing his position/makeing threats and the rest of all that jazz. You cannot ask fairer than that, As apposed to what is happening now, which is a whole lot of mud slinging. Where does that get everyone? Muddy, is where. And that will not do.

As for jack , my advice to him would be to stay out of this thread, no matter how hard he feels it may be, Integerity cannot and should not be comprimised. Other mods should reply to this thread, Thus avoiding a clash of personal feelings, and so on.

Will anything in that post get through to anyones brain? I highly doubt that, buck...why you may as well talk to yourself...

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 1:22 pm
by DaDigi
Lets take a 24hr break on this

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:43 pm
by Nimras
24 hours is over and would someone please remember i arent here as a mod atm still taking a small break from everything including game so please stop spamming my inbox and msn about mod issues??

Nimras

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2008 2:04 pm
by semper
as much as I actually agree with the initial motion of such a thread, I ultimately believe that there is little case other then the lingering effects of sour grapes.

Anyone else want some salsa for the chips on these shoulders?

Jack has been a super mod for just over a month I think. He is still a newbie, I, yes I am saying this. Say give him a break and another two months...

what can I say...three its a magic number! :-D

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 11:40 am
by Skunky
Tetrismonkey wrote:
Semper wrote:as much as I actually agree with the initial motion of such a thread, I ultimately believe that there is little case other then the lingering effects of sour grapes.

Anyone else want some salsa for the chips on these shoulders?

Jack has been a super mod for just over a month I think. He is still a newbie, I, yes I am saying this. Say give him a break and another two months...

what can I say...three its a magic number! :-D


Why let him be a supermod when he has no prior modding experience?

He needs to work his way up. Not skip levels.


too late now deal with it

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 7:27 pm
by semper
Tetrismonkey wrote:
Semper wrote:as much as I actually agree with the initial motion of such a thread, I ultimately believe that there is little case other then the lingering effects of sour grapes.

Anyone else want some salsa for the chips on these shoulders?

Jack has been a super mod for just over a month I think. He is still a newbie, I, yes I am saying this. Say give him a break and another two months...

what can I say...three its a magic number! :-D


Why let him be a supermod when he has no prior modding experience?

He needs to work his way up. Not skip levels.


because you can kick and scream all you want...
Hell is going to freeze over before Smooshable and Baszy blink.

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 3:57 am
by Phoenix of Terra
Tetrismonkey wrote:
Jack wrote:
Tetrismonkey wrote:
Semper wrote:as much as I actually agree with the initial motion of such a thread, I ultimately believe that there is little case other then the lingering effects of sour grapes.

Anyone else want some salsa for the chips on these shoulders?

Jack has been a super mod for just over a month I think. He is still a newbie, I, yes I am saying this. Say give him a break and another two months...

what can I say...three its a magic number! :-D


Why let him be a supermod when he has no prior modding experience?

He needs to work his way up. Not skip levels.

Why continue to hold a vendetta about something that happened in cyberspace against someone else?


Its not a vendetta and its sad if you see it as that. Its just showing how much you are paying attention to whats being said. Im here doing this because you are not worthy of being a super mod, along with, what 15 others now that agree?

Lol, fifteen. This forum has 10K registered users, hundreds that are active and you have 15 who don't like one mod, and have been countered by around that many strong Jack supporters in your arguments. Get a little closer to triple digits and you might actually have a disturbance worth all of these posts.

Also, the forum is an oligarchy, whether you like it or not. And your attempts to change that are not ones moving to "Majority Rule, Minority Rights" so much as "Minority Rule, Minority Rights" or mob rule, which ever helps your agenda best atm.

Please just stop, for I'm really starting to feel the effects of all those facepalms.

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Wed Jul 30, 2008 1:47 pm
by Phoenix of Terra
Jack wrote:
Tetrismonkey wrote:You have to take into consideration how many people that actually care about the forums.

I guess you're going to just conveniently ignore the part where he said there was equal opposition to your argument.

Jack beat me to it. Plus, there is the HUGE silent majority, who really couldn't give a flip. They're much more worried about making sure that they can complain in general and trash talk in GalCol. Do they care about the forums? Sure, as long as their up. And if this really was an important action, they'd be in here.

But they're not, so it must not be worth the fuss it has been given.

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 9:12 am
by thaltek
Phoenix of Terra wrote:
Jack wrote:
Tetrismonkey wrote:You have to take into consideration how many people that actually care about the forums.

I guess you're going to just conveniently ignore the part where he said there was equal opposition to your argument.

Jack beat me to it. Plus, there is the HUGE silent majority, who really couldn't give a flip. They're much more worried about making sure that they can complain in general and trash talk in GalCol. Do they care about the forums? Sure, as long as their up. And if this really was an important action, they'd be in here.

But they're not, so it must not be worth the fuss it has been given.

are you kidding i am not silent....i tend to be quite loud.....

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:22 am
by Brdavs
Phoenix of Terra wrote: Plus, there is the HUGE silent majority, who really couldn't give a flip. They're much more worried about making sure that they can complain in general and trash talk in GalCol. Do they care about the forums? Sure, as long as their up. And if this really was an important action, they'd be in here.

But they're not, so it must not be worth the fuss it has been given.



Not true. We of the vast silent majority are just used to texans abusing power ( ;) ) and position and choose not to run in the special olympics that is treads like these.

Wich does not make the issue nonexistant or nonrelevant.


I cringe a lot of times when I read the forum but I never say anything (save 1 or 2 exemtions that come to mind), not cos I dont care bout the issue but cos I`m resigned like a late romance period poet. There is a difference lol.

Reason? Cos "you guys" got eachothers backs and you inevitably "win" all the forum arguments/discussions, one way or the other.
And that only serves to reafirm your belief what you`re doing is OK so you practice it further.
My way of combating it is by not problematazing it, bringing it into spotlight and inevitably have some1 from the higher exhelong coming allong and giving his blessing on the matter. I find it best to shut up and hope it was a one off lol.

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:24 am
by ramen07
Brdavs wrote:
Phoenix of Terra wrote: Plus, there is the HUGE silent majority, who really couldn't give a flip. They're much more worried about making sure that they can complain in general and trash talk in GalCol. Do they care about the forums? Sure, as long as their up. And if this really was an important action, they'd be in here.

But they're not, so it must not be worth the fuss it has been given.



Not true. We of the vast silent majority are just used to texans abusing power ( ;) ) and position and choose not to run in the special olympics that is treads like these.

Wich does not make the issue nonexistant or nonrelevant.


I cringe a lot of times when I read the forum but I never say anything (save 1 or 2 exemtions that come to mind), not cos I dont care bout the issue but cos I`m resigned like a late romance period poet. There is a difference lol.

Reason? Cos "you guys" got eachothers backs and you inevitably "win" all the forum arguments/discussions, one way or the other.
And that only serves to reafirm your belief what you`re doing is OK so you practice it further.
My way of combating it is by not problematazing it, bringing it into spotlight and inevitably have some1 from the higher exhelong coming allong and giving his blessing on the matter. I find it best to shut up and hope it was a one off lol.


if you shut up about certain things, theyre never gonna change. unless you speak out about something legitimately wrong, it wont work. mothers (like mine) use the all-familiar saying "i cannot read your mind." same applies here.

btw jack is fine. thats my take on things :D

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:53 am
by Phoenix of Terra
Brdavs wrote:
Phoenix of Terra wrote: Plus, there is the HUGE silent majority, who really couldn't give a flip. They're much more worried about making sure that they can complain in general and trash talk in GalCol. Do they care about the forums? Sure, as long as their up. And if this really was an important action, they'd be in here.

But they're not, so it must not be worth the fuss it has been given.



Not true. We of the vast silent majority are just used to texans abusing power ( ;) ) and position and choose not to run in the special olympics that is treads like these.

Wich does not make the issue nonexistant or nonrelevant.


I cringe a lot of times when I read the forum but I never say anything (save 1 or 2 exemtions that come to mind), not cos I dont care bout the issue but cos I`m resigned like a late romance period poet. There is a difference lol.

Reason? Cos "you guys" got eachothers backs and you inevitably "win" all the forum arguments/discussions, one way or the other.
And that only serves to reafirm your belief what you`re doing is OK so you practice it further.
My way of combating it is by not problematazing it, bringing it into spotlight and inevitably have some1 from the higher exhelong coming allong and giving his blessing on the matter. I find it best to shut up and hope it was a one off lol.

Well Davs, thanks for shooting that Richard Nixon idea out of the water. :P

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 2:38 pm
by killtacular
Tetrismonkey wrote:Be quiet about the problems here on the forums only help them to think they are doing a good job and the right job when they are not. Its up to the community to change things to how they want it. There needs to be a better system for the Users to interact with the Mods, such as if they want one removed and the Admin is being bias in the situation, there should be some kind of system to have them removed, expectially with overwelming evidance that the mod has done wrong, not once, but serveral times, and in no way is it just a fluke or occational thing, but an ongoing problem.

Admin Jason should take a deeper look into who he hires to to the Admin'ing and Modding jobs on these forums.


Maybe Jason hired them just to piss you off personally. Seriously go back to your hole. What happened to quitting? I had a parade planned and everything.

Re: Petition for the removal of "Jack" as a StarGateWars Forum M

Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:46 am
by Legendary Apophis
Tetrismonkey wrote:Be quiet about the problems here on the forums only help them to think they are doing a good job and the right job when they are not. Its up to the community to change things to how they want it. There needs to be a better system for the Users to interact with the Mods, such as if they want one removed and the Admin is being bias in the situation, there should be some kind of system to have them removed, expectially with overwelming evidance that the mod has done wrong, not once, but serveral times, and in no way is it just a fluke or occational thing, but an ongoing problem.

Admin Jason should take a deeper look into who he hires to to the Admin'ing and Modding jobs on these forums.

Things ain't like that in real life either.
When you elect a governor, a mayor or a president, I don't think that if a year or so after they got elected, because you don't like how they behave, you can fire them. :lol:
You can form a group of people protesting, try to influencate decisions of them by pressure(s), but NOT make them be fired!