Semper, most of the "red writing" you added to my post adds nothing to this discussion. However I will entertain the notion that a small amount of it does and I will reply accordingly. I've made things easier for you by making replies in red. If you can debate with yourself, so can I
Norbe wrote:What possible gain could ever arise out of the claims you are making?
I was reffering to gain from TÅs perspective, perhaps I missed out one single word which may have made things confusing. I'm not going to spend ages proofreading my posts, i dont care enough, so things like that will happen on occasion.
*insert red writing here about my inability to post* Regardless there is no gain for TÅ if we "bully" and "lie". That is the point I was making.
*insert red writing here claiming we do it for funnies*Semper wrote:Would you like to elaborate on that more before I reply to it? It can be a double edged sword... and of course we all dislike them. Is this saying it's ok for a player of 100+mill army size account to attack and mass an account 1/20th or less of their size? Does the TA condone those actions?
Yes I would like to elaborate. I will elaborate with an example. Player A, has a large army, but low stats due to a war. Player B is a newer player with a small army. He sees that Player A makes a lot of naq and chooses to take it. Player A then replies with a nice message saying "Please don't take my naq, i'm in a war". Player B says replies saying "I will take it whenever I want" and follows that up by several more attacks. Is Player A supposed to just let Player B continue to hit him, without hitting back, just because Player B has a smaller army? If Player A does hit
back does that make him a "bully"?
*Insert red writing about how TÅ logging into this game is bullying and claiming otherwise is lying*In this example, Player A is the stereotypical TÅ member here. Perhaps not everyone conforms to the sterotype as well as others.
*Insert red writing containing an internet abbreviation such as rofl or lol*Semper wrote:This is not propaganda, its truth and you sure as hell better expect anyone reading this will know that before the end of the discussion.
All I see is someone trying to form truth about a large group of people, without knowing all of the facts.
*Insert red writing about how I don't know all of the facts, afterall I've only been a member of the alliance for years!* TÅs mandate has not changed. It won't change. Yes our reactions may be more aggressive than ever before, perhaps even our fuses have shrunk a tiny bit. But our actions are always for a reason.
*Insert red writing containing lol or rofl again*It is a shame that the war against FUALL has spilled over to involve your alliance. You seem like a decent bunch of people (with perhaps a few nameless exlusions). However you did have plenty of time to avoid this; almost every other alliance has managed to avoid getting caught up in it.
*Insert red writing claiming you did nothing, you dont know who Jordan Sullivan is, nor how her or anyone else was aiding our enemy, and that this is an unprovoked attack just purely to bully*If you wish to now cite The Pond war as another example of TÅ bullying, let me inform you that there have been many issues between TÅ and The Pond members over the past couple of years. When their names appeared in our logs and their diplomats were not being friendly, we simply raised our hand yet again.
*Insert red writing "yet another example of TÅF bullying"*And finally, to once again address what is said in our recruitment thread. All of the senior TÅ members agree with me here.
*Insert red writing claiming we are good at lying collectively as well as individually* Unfortunately there are numerous incidents lately of wars which have arisen that could have been avoided.
*Insert red writing blaming TÅ for this* Long wars do have an effect on everyone involved. In the future, when the dust settles on all battlefields, TÅ will still be who we always have been. We are now, its just we don't give you chance to poke your head out to see. Feel free to try, but we have our guns aimed at the right spot just incase.
*insert red WTH?*For everyone other than Semper. You have no reason to fear TÅ. Our guns have enough targets, so long as you don't give us a reason to point them at you. Leave us alone (and don't get caught helping our enemies) and we shall do the same to you.
~Norbe~
P.S. I'm only posting once per day max in this thread. Will check it again tomorrow if I feel like it.