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Thriller wrote: (For more information visit your local economics professor and not some crappy low budget movie loosly based in reality)

you don't see Zeitgeist in my list of "must see movies", but you can see the Money masters in that list, and if you want a real education about money and the fractional reserve banking system, i suggest you watch all 3.5 hours of it (instead of visiting a professor who doesn't have a clue about the fractional banking system's true function) all the while making notes on key issues and statements and then go researching those key points to see if they are true or not

The Money Masters is an EXTREMELY well researched film by an economist and presented by a very knowledgeable reporter. the film is not some flashy interpretation or opinionated fictional work, unlike much of Zeitgeist...

and just for the record, i say this with all sincerity, STAY AWAY FROM ZEITGEIST!

GhostyGoo wrote:

Apadamek wrote:

GhostyGoo wrote:

Apadamek wrote:and then give you the bread I had made out of common human decency, well you have another thing coming, you've done nothing to deserve that reward.

Sorry mate, i'm about to go to bed but just so you don't feel insulted by what i said, it was you who admitted that you are neither common nor decent!

Theres nothing uncommon or indecent for not wanting to give someone something you've worked extremely hard for, just for some childish concept of 'human decency'.

Let me deconstruct what you just said, i'm not being rude by this, only trying to point out where you, philosophically arguing with your own nature.

there's nothing indecent about not wanting to be decent.

Come now, if this statement is not a glaring inconsistency i dunno what is!

There is nothing indecent about not being decent. If you give a homeless man money, that is decent. If you do not it does not suddenly become indecent, you just decided not to be. If you mocked, or somehow was rude or cruel to the homeless man then you are being indecent. Theres nothing indecent in only caring for yourself, it's just being decent to a solitary being.

GhostyGoo wrote:

Apadamek wrote:Decency defined as expectation of mindlessly giving away all hard work for some grandiose cause, when just being a consumer is doing that but in a far more appreciable way, in not only helping yourself but everyone else as well.

Lol. How the misguided desperately squirm within their own hole.

You are consuming to consume. You are not achieving anything of any circumstance because your only goal is consumption - you are ammoral, like it or not. Indecent. Inconsistent. I don't think you are a naturally bad person because you do this innocently, through naivete. You do not have a higher concept than this. It's hard not to insult but believe me, i mean you no offence appy, if you are happy it is all that matters. You are not exploiting anyone. If you were, we would be having a different conversation. Decency is a labour in itself when seen through the eyes of capitalism however when seen through the eyes of the greater good it is simply honourable experience, enlightenment.

I mean it like this, being 'decent' in your eyes is helping the world. By being a consumer of goods that people manufacture you're keeping jobs, paying wages, taxes, food bills, electric bills, gas bills, everything. Just being a consumer in this system is as 'decent' as the every-man needs to be.

If you want to be a generous soul and help people out, that's great, but not doing that isn't somehow 'indecent'....