Mayhem Extorters

[Juliette]

It's the wrong font. If you're going to fake it, do it properly.

So far, this thread has failed to do anything but arouse the suspicion that you're trying to screw us over, Lith..

Actually that argument fails.

You can change the font that the browser uses, and you can chose to override the websites set font if you prefer a different font.

I'm not saying I believe any of this, just pointing out the fact.

This is new to me. Okay. I retract my previous point..


*grin* Bel, I like you.

[BenjaminMS]

Pardon me - but those screens give THAT few info - that I cannot even see from A) whom the PM is, B) even worse is that I cannot decided from WHOM this log is and if it isn't an attacking or defending log!

[pug theblackrobe]

lol i quite like you mr uni as well

[Lithium]

to avoid the speculation posts, you should probobly get one with the inbox showing it was rodwolfs PM

i ve that screen but its not being uploaded it crash the page, its small file tho,

Universe dont **Filtered** , it makes u look bad, but since u used to trick ppl it doesnt surprise me

[Brdavs]

looking at the attack list it seems quite easy for anyone in mayhem to view there logs and corroborate those attacks or were they faked as well, mulder and scully are on the case oh you sceptics

This much is true... but when people have a tendency to assume people doctering screenshots and planting info to varios other parties, we`re supposed to assume alliance mates wont flatly stick up for eachother? By conveniently dissapearing from the forum for the 24h it takes for logs to clear? Heck, depending on when the mass took place, that time could be just arount the corner.
Speaking of this.... where the heck is the allways present noobert today?

See, I can do conspiracy theory too.




All joking aside...

I can see it now.
It wont be settled save one thing. The alleged victim giving permision his identity be fully reveald ans possibly posting himself. And even then universe will say its a plant LOL.
Weather or not he`ll be willing to get on the back side of his alleged assailant is the interesting question now. Nothing we can do about it but hope he/they has/have the strenght of character.


Ideally... get Mayhem CO or XO to invite a neutral & respected party to printscreen the attack logs for the 24h period that includes the alleged mass of this lone wolf.
Thoe I have no idea who in the heck would be neutral and respected in SGW terms.

[BenjaminMS]

screen included, attacks confirmed by wepwaet via msn

Wepweat, confirmation please?
-Ben

[Clarkey]

If it helps, I am willing to have the "victim" as my officer briefly so I can verify logs. Only if it helps and they are willing.

However, that would still ONLY prove that there was a massing involved.

[pug theblackrobe]

If it helps, I am willing to have the "victim" as my officer briefly so I can verify logs. Only if it helps and they are willing.

However, that would still ONLY prove that there was a massing involved.

the only proof really is if the victim sic saved the message and would be willing to produce it , simple as aleksander the meerkat would say

[Juliette]

i ve that screen but its not being uploaded it crash the page, its small file tho,

How convenient.

Universe dont **Filtered** , it makes u look bad, but since u used to trick ppl it doesnt surprise me

You know .. it gives me experience. And that experience tells me this thread makes *you* look bad so far.. and that you're grievously messing up this wonderful opportunity at calling the kettle black.
It's almost painful to watch.


*grin* Bel.. it's not quite 'mr.' Universe.. I didn't go to law school. (Dutch joke, sorry.)

[Clarkey]

If it helps, I am willing to have the "victim" as my officer briefly so I can verify logs. Only if it helps and they are willing.

However, that would still ONLY prove that there was a massing involved.

the only proof really is if the victim sic saved the message and would be willing to produce it , simple as aleksander the meerkat would say

That is still editable proof.
And what if this "victim" is an unknown.... how could he be trusted if people don't know them.

And it's...... "simples"

[pug theblackrobe]

ok uni i know dutch caps not jokes and clarkey i apologise most humbly for dropping an SSS and if someone with permission logged into said account to peruse the mail it could not be faked except by aleksander or that MIT guy from 21 winner winner chicken dinner

[Lithium]

first post updated wit new screen from inbox and convo wit wepwaet, for thos sceptics they can ve the screens via msn, i might upload them on web if they want

[schuesseled]

Tbh nearly everyone in the game extorts, depending on your definition of extortion, "the threatening of an act upon someone, to derive a service from them, for a lower or no cost."

So is not threatening to mass or not stop massing someone unless they do you the service of not attacking you for naqudah an extortion.

And most players do this.

Then theirs the war reparations that some players use to get to be fair, what they deserve from an aggressor for their aggression, I don't consider it to be unfair or unjust, so long as certains conditions are met, doesn't change the fact that its technically extortion.

Though generally, I find threats to be not necessary. As such I make no extortion's in the true sense of the term, I make no threats what so ever to anybody for any service in return, well not recently =P

Rodwolf, or fictional accused named Rodwolf not in any way related to Rodwolf, you should try simply asking for the trade for peace, i.e

[spoiler]Hey there,

You have been chosen because you have a good account and you are not yet one of my allies.

You have two options to get peace from me and become my ally.

1) Trade 1 K ATs for a fixed price of 100 bil naq on weekly basis.

2) Trade 2 K ATs for a fixed price of 250 bil naq on weekly basis. In addition i will provide you military assistance where i can. I got top 10 rank MS , good covert and AC lvl and i know how to use my account .


Furthermore i\'ll be willing to trade any other resources at marketrate for both options.

I look forward to peaceful relations with you.

Grtz[/spoiler]

And if they respond saying "No" you mass them, then repeat your original message daily till they accept, along with the consequences for anyone not in peace with you.

There are no threats being made, No extortion going on, just you going about your business massing people and sending out messages offering peaceful relations, two of the things most players practice daily.

Any assumed relation between your massings and your messages are thus pure coincidence.

That is how not to extort folks.

Anyway, enough of my ridiculous ramblings, off to do something less vindictive.

...

And a side note, Lithium, how do you expect anyone to believe your evidence, if you have TAMPERED with it.

"Right Mr Judge, here is this evidence, as you can clearly see, MR X has Shot MR Z, now this here the decals on the gun I added with photoshop, to make the picture more Rad, You think its Rad Mr Judge?"

Maybe you should send a non-edited piece of evidence next time. If the information is sensitive, someone like Clarky who is a respected Mod and member of the community, and their are plenty more like him, who would look at the screen shot via PM and post his findings.

Also you may want to find a better method of sharing proof than simply a screen shot, as they aren't hard to fake, maybe make a video of you looking up the information on the screen, (with a camera or phone) I know this can be eddited too but it is still a lot more reliable.

[Lithium]

schuesseled check the first post i uploaded not edited screens on forums aswell as links to download them. cmone read first think and then write yr opinion , it was a long post which takes time dear

[Wepwaet]

After looking at the proof Lithium offered ive come to the following conclusion; Exigent got set to war and massed for taking a planet back from Rodwolf.
THAT is not proof of any extortion. I'd like to point out that the screenshot of the message page has at least one inconsistency in it which Lithium refuses to acknowledge. At this point either you buy into the hardcore TTF ideology that fuall is a bunch of cheating exorters or you don't. Personally I can't believe that Rodwolf suddenly started extorting 1 person and make no mistake there isn't tons of people coming on here accusing him is there, just one guy pissed for being massed and TTF trying to exploit the issue.



Im sorry Lithium got upset that I didn't blindly look at the screen shots and automaticly grab a pitchfork and run after Rowolf. Friendship gets the benefit of doubt and trust me theres enough here to doubt. People don't just start flying even if someone says they saw them flying around...