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Brdavs wrote:Some funny qualifications here, such as the abillity to grow in numbers...

Note that in the past few weeks OE took a page out of TF book and dropped considerable, and I mean considerable number of members form alpha and pi, my previous favorite farming grounds.
DDE on the other hand keeps piling dead wood on having zero standards as to whome accept, which makes for a good laugh from time to time & more to farm.

Funny post, Brdavs.

Speaking of no standards, I wonder what alliance AGA now belongs to?

don't forget deni that aga never surrender to them and still he was invited to there alliance
i quess u can't have standards while u are almost to vanish in this game

bebita wrote:don't forget deni that aga never surrender to them and still he was invited to there alliance
i quess u can't have standards while u are almost to vanish in this game

it reminds me the days that DDE was kissing asses of TAf players, recruiting to the enymy lines is far low as it sucks

Honorary enemy player vs biggest extorter ever

there will be no winner . this war will not end

only the dead have seen the end of this war

only jason has won this fight

for those who are taking a swipe at AGA all ive got to say is what happend with JMX? why did you guys let him back in? and rememebr our brief convo about it deni?

enough said if anyone has a problem with that then this aint the place for it ok

from what i remember jmx was not dde enemy and was a trully respected member in dde who just sold his account
his return was not in dde for some reasons but he didn't left a enemy of dde and nobody target him as a enemy of dde or someone had something against him
while aga?
hmm there is no way to compare aga sittuation with jmx sittuation
like i said r8 ...
one question for u mate
do u have any standards in your alliance?
or u just try to survive
i don't really need a answer i just put it because tle in this moment looks that way
and when i am thinking that i was rejected when i tried to join tle
i don't remember what was the reason all i remember was that i wanted to follow my mentors LoD and LoT

i know what happend and those concrened know what happend. leave it at that.
AGA met certain reuquiremenets to join, his army size is high enough, MS is ok, Ascencion levels etc.

now bebita can you tell me who sets the standards and does the recruting for DDE especially DOC as i see players in there unascanded with 5 mill army size? what are you taking training allaince to a new level and helping newbies grow

i wasnt around when you applied to join TLE and i dont know why or who rejected your application. long gone now i guess

R8 TDL wrote:i know what happend and those concrened know what happend. leave it at that.
AGA met certain reuquiremenets to join, his army size is high enough, MS is ok, Ascencion levels etc.

now bebita can you tell me who sets the standards and does the recruting for DDE especially DOC as i see players in there unascanded with 5 mill army size? what are you taking training allaince to a new level and helping newbies grow

i wasnt around when you applied to join TLE and i dont know why or who rejected your application. long gone now i guess

yeah but seems u are forgetting a thing about aga
when war started he was in dde with a second chance
he left and never surrended
quess robe logs about runners are gone
what jmx did was not nice but that didn't make him to be on enemy list

dastupy wrote:Honorary enemy player vs biggest extorter ever

talking bout extorers , i did showed yall the genuine PM

bebita u blame TLE for recruiting AGA (ex dde and ex many other alliances) while DDE tried for months to recruit Qacol and they succeeded, and also few attempts to certain ppl i know, i was looking for the temping recruit pm i got frm DDE , but since its been month then probably its was del or auto del.

Lithium wrote:

dastupy wrote:Honorary enemy player vs biggest extorter ever

talking bout extorers , i did showed yall the genuine PM

bebita u blame TLE for recruiting AGA (ex dde and ex many other alliances) while DDE tried for months to recruit Qacol and they succeeded, and also few attempts to certain ppl i know, i was looking for the temping recruit pm i got frm DDE , but since its been month then probably its was del or auto del.

I do not remember me or REK sending you ever a recruiting pm nor do I remember a membership vote.

Keep dreaming

Just a little note, hope mods and GM can keep up to this.

~MassinForChrist~ wrote:Rules of the Thread:

One Post per person on the Thread! Stating the reasons they believe TTF won, FUALL won or it was a draw. ONE POST ONLY!!!

Moderators please enforce one post only rule!!!

Deni do your job or send some right hand of your's to do it.
Once you have done it, remove this reminder too.

Nothing better to see than GM spamming in topics.

Lithium wrote:

dastupy wrote:Honorary enemy player vs biggest extorter ever

talking bout extorers , i did showed yall the genuine PM

bebita u blame TLE for recruiting AGA (ex dde and ex many other alliances) while DDE tried for months to recruit Qacol and they succeeded, and also few attempts to certain ppl i know, i was looking for the temping recruit pm i got frm DDE , but since its been month then probably its was del or auto del.

i don't blame them
is their problem
i just pointed in what sittuation they are
if 2 years ago they rejected me(yes i was unknown or whatever) now they accept anybody

This is a very hard thread to make a serious reply to, but I will nevertheless make an attempt.

The only measurement of that is against the goals of each and every alliance involved in the war. In a sense this is a reply to [SlayerS_fith] who said that:

[SlayerS_fith] wrote:I think the original Terms of the War as to why it started should be revised.
if the goals to these are basicly completed then an agreement shoudl be resolved around those.

I think the vast majority of people don't understand the reasons why everyone fights this war. So i'm going to try and put accross my interpretations of everyone's goals. Obviously its hard for me to consider the specific goals of other alliances. However there are a few assumptions that can be drawn (feel free to correct me if i'm way off).

OE: Wanted to destroy TLE. Whilst TL/TDL are still around, there is no doubt they have lost a lot of their previously big name players. New players have emerged in their place (r8, inr, thamuz), but the core is different to how it once was. OE could claim they have acheived their goals in this war because of that.

Mayhem: I think it was the possiblity of revenge against TLE that made them join OE and the war. Mayhem were a part of Zion, they were hit by TLE a long time ago. They stood their ground back then but were eventually broken. So I think it is fitting they are grouped with OE, at least in terms of their reasons for this war are similar to those of OE. Like OE, they could also claim that the enemy they wanted to fight against has changed so much it is no longer a recognisable enemy. Big tick in that box for Mayhem.

DDE: I still have no idea why they wanted this war. Probably it was just that they wanted to go to war, and happened to fight against an enemy they know wouldn't surrender. How you can define a victory or a loss in a war without a clear reason and against an enemy that never stops I have no idea. So whatever their goals were in this war, i'd say probably not achieved.

TAF: This one is easy. We continue to fight for the same reasons we always have. To protect ourselves and our friends. Honestly, truthfully, we have not succeded in ensuring we will have a peaceful future. If we had, we would not need to continue fighting.

TO/CoTO: They were forced to surrender in their last major war against FUAll. This war for them was about redemption. This time they decided to fight and prove they were strong enough to continue fighting for a very long time and survive. I think they have proved that.

EPA: Point number one. They didn't want to join this war. They were forced into it by DDE's constant attacks (not to mention a dispute between the former EPA leader and OE command at the time). Naturally EPA responded to the attacks and ended up here. I think for EPA it was about showing their legacy still holds true and that people should never count them out.

SU: I don't fully understand the history of SU, though I am aware that it contains a number of conflicts with OE. In that sense their reasons for fighting are very similar to those of the Tauri Alliance. They fight for their future. And until it is guarenteed to be free from oppression for them and others, they will keep fighting.

TLE/D2D: This is the hardest one of all to clarify, because the reasons they continue to fight are different to the reasons why the war started in the first place. After all, they are different, seperate alliances now. Blahh, Zesh, zeb, mato have all quit. Whatever their reasons were for fighting initially, it no longer applies. What does matter now for the remaining members are the reasons they continue to fight. I think they want to redeem the mistakes of their predecesors. They are willing to see this through to the end without surrendering because that way, by sticking with their friends, The Legion has now become so much more than just an empire. They are a small group of great players that deserve their place in this game and its history and that I am proud to be fighting alongside.

As a final and general note. All of the TTF alliances are aware that the only way they can achieve their goals is to continue to stick together. That is another reason why we will not surrender and why we will not be divided.

~Norbe~
Tauri Ålliance member.