HonoredSLayer wrote:[KMA]Avenger wrote:no mate, i dont want to know if its a vibrator or a bomb for the simple reason, i refuse to live in fear, regardless if there is something to fear such as the threat posed by AlCIAda or a manufactured threat. and furthermore, anyone who would prefer to live like that does not deserve life in my humble opinion!
apparently your afraid to go through them. you think it marks you don't you.
[KMA]Avenger wrote:SuperSaiyan wrote:well, you could always travel not with a plane...
or travel to somewhere its not required and then hop on a plane...
inconvenient yes, a bit more in cost yes, but if your that worried about privacy and your health can you really put a price on it?
all options i would sooner consider than going through them.
for me its a matter of principal, there is just no way in hell i'll let anyone look at my kids in that much detail, even if the health risks are minimal.
apparently (as you like to say), you dont read to well
and as i have already explained and provided links...these "things" wouldn't have stopped people like the shoe and underwear bombers.
Dr. House wrote:Hitchkok wrote:trains filled with nerve gas in Japan
What trains?
he's talking about this:
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=Sarin+ ... d837d0816dEDIT!!!
and as has been stated...i do not accept the terrorist side of the argument FULL STOP!!!
http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&q=cia+cr ... d837d0816ddo your own research and thinking people, these machines have not been created because there is a problem with security, they have been created for YOU *points at everyone*
EDIT2!!!
[spoiler]A passenger who boarded Northwest Airlines Flight 253 in Amsterdam with attempted plane bomber Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab says the would-be terrorist had no passport and was aided by a sharp-dressed man who claimed Mutallab was a Sudanese refugee, just one of a plethora of startling inconsistencies surrounding an incident that has led to ramped up security and increased levels of harassment in airports.
Every single fact that has come to light since the attempted bombing on Christmas Day directly indicates that the bomber was deliberately allowed to board the plane and that his attack would have succeeded if not for the alert and brave reactions of the passengers and flight crew.
According to Kurt Haskell, an attorney with the Haskell Law Firm in Taylor, Michigan, “He and his wife were sitting on the ground near their boarding gate in Amsterdam, which is when they saw Mutallab approach the gate with an unidentified man.”
Mutallab was a poorly dressed, young looking individual, but he was accompanied by a man in an expensive suit, Haskell told MLive.com.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index ... _at_l.html“He says the suited man asked ticket agents whether Mutallab could board without a passport. “The guy said, ‘He’s from Sudan and we do this all the time.’”
Although Mutallab is Nigerian, Haskell said the well-dressed man portrayed him as a desperate Sudanese refugee in an attempt to elicit sympathy and as a way of bypassing his lack of documents.
“The ticket agent referred Mutallab and his companion to her manager down the hall, and Haskell didn’t see Mutallab again until after he allegedly tried to detonate an explosive on the plane,” states the report.
Crucially, Haskell said that after the plane landed he saw another man being taken into custody by the FBI along with Mutallab. However, the FBI later said that Mutallab was the only individual taken into custody.
Were the feds retrieving their own agent, the sharp dressed man who ensured that Mutallab boarded the plane despite his overwhelmingly suspicious circumstances?
Mutallab was a known security threat who was on the terror watch list. He is barred from entering Britain after being refused a new visa due to applying for a fake university course. Separate reports said that he did hold a valid visa, which begs the question, how can someone on a terror watch list be allowed to fly?
“On the one hand, it seems he’s been on the terror watch list but not on the no-fly list,” he said. “That doesn’t square because the American Department for Homeland Security has pretty stringent data-mining capability. I don’t understand how he had a valid visa if he was known on the terror watch list,” Dr Magnus Ranstorp of the Center for Asymmetric Threat Studies told the London Independent.
It has also been revealed that Mutallab’s father contacted U.S. intelligence officials a month ago and warned them that his son was a threat, but nothing was done.
The bomber’s father, Alhaji Umaru Mutallab, was a a former minister and chairman of First Bank in Nigeria. The bomber does not fit the image of a disgruntled, rag-tag terrorist. His considerable wealth allowed him to live in luxury at an imposing London mansion.
As a result of the failed attack, new security directives have been introduced for anyone traveling into America. Intense body and hand-luggage searches and sniffer dogs have been beefed up at departure gates and passengers have been ordered not to stand during the final hour of the flight and are not allowed access to any of their hand luggage during the final hour.
However, if you’re a suspicious looking man on a terror watch list with no passport carrying explosives, you should breeze through security with no questions asked, just be sure to have a sharp-dressed man with you at all times.[/spoiler]
