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Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:58 am**

i read what you wrote, but the problem is this, your told 1 reason why those few examples above were introduced, but the fact of the matter is that you was lied to, they were not done for those reasons.

and just for the record, the last pope John Paul was a salesman for IG Farbin, do you know who IG Farbin is? do you know what he sold to the Germans??

this new Pope is also implicated in paedophilia, have you watched those films??

do your own independent research, go and read the book Vatican assassins and this one: http://www.biblebelievers.com/chiniquy/ ... tents.html
then come and talk to me about RC.

PS, i have read both books and done MUCH more investigating than just 2 books and 1 film.

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:03 am**

i dont need to do research i know enough I may have been lied to about reasons but i still agreed about the flawed teachings did i or did not that you had issues with?

sighs i have studied more on any topic there are books for and against I know what the current pope is implicated in but at the moment all i see is media spin if hes guilty put him in jail were he belongs

and the last pope i dont wish to go into simple because he was a disgrace for different reasons i have myself concluded

Posted: **Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:00 pm**

Juliette wrote:Oh my, I see the lot of you are still stuck in the paradigm that science and religion share any common ground beside both being of human origins.
I will withdraw from this argument until you have resolved your issues.

Maybe afterward we can have ourselves a debate. Would be lovely.

Science and faith(religion) support eachother.

If one does not match the other, then you either have 1. Bad Science or 2. Bad Faith.

Science logically comes to the conclusion that there must be a creator.

Big bang for example, there was a beginning.

The argument that the universe always was and always is, is proven wrong by scientific laws. Law of thermodynamics for example.

To say that there is no creation at the least, is to say that science which you uphold as a gospel is null and void. Why? Because faith and science do not contradict each other but rather support each other.

However that is off topic and a whole different debate whatsoever.

On topic:

[KMA]Avenger wrote::-k

Lol edited.

i couldn't agree more...however, this buffoon has been here (here=this part of the forum) all of 1 day and presumes to know and judge me, and then presumes that gives him the right to insult me?!

Noone has the right to judge, not even the RC church. Placing it under a wide banner of the RC Church is a gross generalisation of peoples personal beliefs and their own doctrine.

The thing about Christianity, it is a personal relationship with God, there is no 'set' code if I say so. Christianity is a lifestyle and its religion is love.

You can talk about the sect that go around protesting at the American funerals, and saying God hates USA or God hates Gays, well there will be a time where they are judged. I for one dont care what they believe or say or do, does not tarnish me. Namely because it is not my doctrine, I do get offended if they try to label it on me but who wouldn't?

I only care that people have the chance to hear and read the bible, make their own mind up upon it. Wether they want go to heaven or hell for ever it is purely their choice.

Notably the RC Church are abit misguided in their thinkings, but rather accuse them of being false, challenge them to change their ways, like what Luther did.

Posted: **Sat May 01, 2010 12:25 am**

that post was edited because it was done in anger because i didn't understand something (not something i'm willing to go into), now i do.

as for reforming RC, it was my hope when i first posted this topic people would do their own research, since that hasn't happened...i ask again, how can you reform something that is inherently evil at its very core?

understand, their is NOTHING holy about the Vatican, the pope or the upper echelons of Roman Catholicism. RC is a predatory institution that prays on the people from the top down, it also prays on the honest priests within RC.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 ... d_pope.htm

keep in mind that the previous pope was a salesman for IG Farbin and sold Zyclon B gas to the Nazi's.

this is what i mean by "inherently evil". if you dig deeper you will also be disgusted by RC as pushed by the Vatican.

i posted some links, watch them. i know i've posted many links to films in the past but these NEED to be seen and heard to be believed.

Posted: **Sat May 01, 2010 5:58 am**

[KMA]Avenger wrote:that post was edited because it was done in anger because i didn't understand something (not something i'm willing to go into), now i do.

I just loled cause i was prob one of the few to read it. And looks funny in the post order.

as for reforming RC, it was my hope when i first posted this topic people would do their own research, since that hasn't happened...i ask again, how can you reform something that is inherently evil at its very core?

Evil at its very core? What is this core you speak of?

understand, their is NOTHING holy about the Vatican, the pope or the upper echelons of Roman Catholicism. RC is a predatory institution that prays on the people from the top down, it also prays on the honest priests within RC.

Ofc there is nothing holy about the vatican, it just a bunch of people and buildings. To make it clear im just stating that the humans and the buildings are not of importance and that they are not holy. Not talking about the christian faith and doctrine.

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 ... d_pope.htm

keep in mind that the previous pope was a salesman for IG Farbin and sold Zyclon B gas to the Nazi's.

and dont forget the nazi gold in the swizz banks .

this is what i mean by "inherently evil". if you dig deeper you will also be disgusted by RC as pushed by the Vatican.

All humanity is inherently evil.

i posted some links, watch them. i know i've posted many links to films in the past but these NEED to be seen and heard to be believed.

Posted: **Sat May 01, 2010 8:12 am**

"keep in mind that the previous pope was a salesman for IG Farbin and sold Zyclon B gas to the Nazi's."

Slander and very disengenuous, Ian Ross Vayro is an idiot with an agenda.

The pope worked for Solvay S.A.; A belgian chemical company. He woked in the plant, on the line. He didn't selll anything. He did it so he wouldnt be deported to germany for slave labour. Probably was only working for the company on paper and didnt really do anything at all. It was common for companies to hire people in title only to stop the germans for forceably relocating you.

Stop beleiving every peice of trash that agrees with your parinoid pesimistic preconceptions. You talked in a different thread about living in fantasies; you need to wake up. Or at least stop stating slander as fact.

Posted: **Sat May 01, 2010 8:31 am**

exert from 1 of many sites which state:

In the early 1940s, that company employed a Polish chemist and salesman who sold cyanide gas, Zyklon B and Malathion to the Nazis for extermination of groups of people in Auschwitz.

After the war the salesman joined the Catholic church and was ordained a priest.

In 1958 he became Poland's youngest bishop and after Pope John Paul I's mysterious death, the ex-cyanide gas salesman Karol Wojtyla was elected to the papacy as Pope John Paul II in October 1978.

In March 2000, he publicly apologized not for his war effort, but for the wickedness of the Christian religion. The plea for forgiveness also sought to pardon the use of 'violence in the service of truth' an often used fragile and troubling reference to the Inquisition.

The apology read by the Pope was the result of four years of work by a panel of 28 theologians and scholars and was by far the most sweeping act by a leader of a major religion.

i'm sure you will come back with something like "exert from 1 of many sites which state..."

Posted: **Sat May 01, 2010 8:58 am**

[KMA]Avenger wrote:exert from 1 of many sites which state:

[u]In the early 1940s, that company employed a Polish chemist and salesman who sold cyanide gas, Zyklon B and Malathion to the Nazis for extermination of groups of people in Auschwitz.

Yah lost of sites have posted the same information for one source; Ian Ross Vayro.

Posted: **Sat May 01, 2010 10:13 am**

to be completely honest with you, i've never heard that name before...will look into it :-)

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