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Leg Apophis wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

WOW they really did use paintball guns.....

I feel sorry for those guys, Air dropping onto hostile ships... with people directly below you (you don't do that with people below for a good reason.), using paintball guns....

..... Your leaders have really failed you hitch. a little tear gas and coordinated above and below assault approach goes a long way.

Basically ordered to fall into a trap.... now why would anyone do that?

overhanded zealous approach

Leg Apophis wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

Disgusting. We have such Arab battle groups in our streets in some neighbourhoods.

Thriller, I fail to see any shooting from Israelian forces, however hits with chairs and iron bars and other tools from pacifist ones in the boat, as obviously displayed in the video.

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

Disgusting. We have such Arab battle groups in our streets in some neighbourhoods.

So do we in France. Pathetic mindless analphabetic suburbs thugs. Sad because those people aren't meant to be brainless hoodlums from streets but people coming to help Gaza, not to pick a fight like hooligans or hoodlum thugs would.

Innocent people being hit by evil Israelians, I don't think so.

Edit: Corrected my post

So what your saying Pops is that if your boat is boarded in International Waters your not allowed to defend yourself??

Please, what world are you living in eh?

Kit-Fox wrote:So what your saying Pops is that if your boat is boarded in International Waters your not allowed to defend yourself??

Please, what world are you living in eh?

I'm wishing I would be living in a world where the battle groups and thugs crews don't do anything they can to pick a fight. And when it's meant to be people going to help a nation instead of thugs, who act as thugs..well.

From a letter of one of participating people in the help boats group (so one of the "victims", it's in french though

Dans quelques heures, le dernier set, crucial, commencera quand nous entrerons dans les eaux de Gaza. Bien sûr, matériellement, il serait très facile pour Israël de nous stopper et nous arrêter, mais le coût politique qu'ils auront à payer sera énorme.

As if it was innocent defending, lol.
It appears to be soooo much like "come and get us, if you dare".

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

Disgusting. We have such Arab battle groups in our streets in some neighbourhoods.

Leg Apophis wrote:

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

Disgusting. We have such Arab battle groups in our streets in some neighbourhoods.

So do we in France.

please avoid statements regarding ethnicity.
let's keep this about concrete facts and our takes on specific events.
oh, and the people in the video are most likely Turks, which, strictly speaking, are not Arabs

Hitchkok wrote:

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

Disgusting. We have such Arab battle groups in our streets in some neighbourhoods.

Leg Apophis wrote:

Juliette wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo

Disgusting. We have such Arab battle groups in our streets in some neighbourhoods.

So do we in France.

please avoid statements regarding ethnicity.
let's keep this about concrete facts and our takes on specific events.
oh, and the people in the video are most likely Turks, which, strictly speaking, are not Arabs

I meant same for battle groups. Because in France, it's every kind of ethnies with maximum of 50 IQ points who joins them. You got black, white, arabs, middle east...all united under idiocy and fighting.

Edited my post in that regard. Wouldn't want to give "innocence status" to all other ethnies being part of those groups.
"Diversity in criminality."

Leg Apophis wrote: mais le coût politique qu'ils auront à payer sera énorme.

This is the important part, A trap was set and the israeles walked right into it.

Don't worry though, the commander of that op will be fired soon enough.




thanks for correcting their racism for me hitch.

Thriller wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: mais le coût politique qu'ils auront à payer sera énorme.

This is the important part, A trap was set and the israeles walked right into it.

Don't worry though, the commander of that op will be fired soon enough.

you see, this post has no point but gloating.

Hitchkok wrote:

Thriller wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: mais le coût politique qu'ils auront à payer sera énorme.

This is the important part, A trap was set and the israeles walked right into it.

Don't worry though, the commander of that op will be fired soon enough.

you see, this post has no point but gloating.

Your point?

Thriller wrote:

Hitchkok wrote:

Thriller wrote:

Leg Apophis wrote: mais le coût politique qu'ils auront à payer sera énorme.

This is the important part, A trap was set and the israeles walked right into it.

Don't worry though, the commander of that op will be fired soon enough.

you see, this post has no point but gloating.

Your point?

my point is that it is interesting to see you go out of your way to defend terrorist, and then gloating about soldiers who came in trying to use the least amount of violence possible.
a micro event projecting on a macro situation?
the reader can be the judge of that.

I was not defending terrorism... I was trying to kick you from your high horse.

Thriller wrote:I was not defending terrorism... I was trying to kick you from your high horse.

okay. let's get down to brass tacks.
yow know, i consider myself a liberal and a humanist. i'm living in a socialite society, and the sufferings of man disturbs me (not as much as hypocrisy and self rightousness, but still).
i really do appreaciete and sympathise with your "Imagine there's no countries" attitude, and would be very happy if it was practical.
but it's not.
and maybe you would have understood that, had you lived here in the last 20 years. had you seen peace offer after peace offer rejected. truce after truce broken. had you met people traumatised by suicide bombing. kids traumatised by rockets.

now, Israel is a fact. some of its borders are disputed, but as a sovereign country it is widely accepted.
what is also widely accepted is that the Palestinian nation deserves a land of their own.
and here's the catch.
while most Israelis accept that there will be a two state solution (some of them might not like it, or not see it as ideal, but they accept it), there is no such acceptance among most Palestinians. definietly, not among either Fatah or Hamas.
and here's the other catch.
while Israel does its best to avoid hurting civilians, the Hamas and some organisations affiliated to Fatah sees acts of terrorism as a legitimate policy.
and the third catch:
while Israely soldiers attempted to use the least amount of violence possible, and (I assure you) regret every life lost on those ships, Hamas rejoiced at the violence and will cynically use the names and photos of the man lost for its own selfish propaganda.

what am i getting at?
simple really.
it's easy and almost natural to sympathise with the underdog. but that doesn't mean he didn't pick the fight.

NO, you still don't get it. Your both to blame; and obviously anything i post to the contrary you believe is a personal reflection upon yourself since you identify with the country i'm criticizing. You did an excellent job critiquing the Palestinians now point some of that in your own direction.

Terrorism = wrong.
Interning the Palestinians = wrong.

2 state solution = fail, learn to live with each other or just finish each other off already.

With your last post we just came back to where we were before, i'm not going to keep going in circles. This line of circular discussion is what im trying to speak out against, i guess it's so ingrained in your culture there is no stopping it.

I would like to know why exactly these people think they should be allowed to just run a blockade all willy nilly like and not suffer the consequences.