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insaneone wrote:

Lithium wrote:gunz u dont have to mass 5 alliance members coz ones actions. its not fair asking to disband.

EXPANSION didnt leave TUF because he threatened to mass us lol I left because this was the last straw in a whole bunch of things. it just made my decision a whole lot easier.

We can vouch for that. You have a nice group that deserve much better than what you had there, good move.

i am supporting Gunz in this venture and also massing them to nothing after my PPT

GunZ wrote:Alliance Name Leader Name Rank Total Power Member Count
VONGOLA [TUF] Tsuna 1 192,075,729,715,404 21
TECHNOCRACY [TUF] defdragon123 2 95,689,458,143,147 37
ALTERAN [TUF] field 3 84,510,946,095,673 23
CERVELLO [TUF] Kyoya 4 55,273,046,114,879 20
EXPANSION [TUF] insaneone 5 40,961,195,850,315 13


I WILL track this. 114 of you for now. DO THE RIGHT THING.

Gunz, can i ask something.

Why all the TUF alliances? because of one little **Filtered**?

Now I can understand why you are giving a 72hour warning to all those in VONGOLA [TUF] to leave the alliance or be massed.... because they can't exactly kick Tsuna from the alliance can they because he's the leader.

But why should the other alliances have to disband? What have they done to you again? If you sit on any alliance it should only be the one that Tsuna leads.

I'd like to understand why you feel that all TUF alliances have to pay the price because of one **Filtered**?

I'm not looking for anyone elses reasons because this vendetta was created by Gunz, so i'm looking for his.

The Unbreakable Family ...maybe?

hes making the same mistake he was fighting for ,some months ago.

Jedi~Tank wrote:The Unbreakable Family ...maybe?

Even if that's what TUF stands for, they still wouldn't have been able to foresee a "rotten apple" joining and leading a TUF alliance in the future.

Let me ask you this, not just to Gunz, but to anyone that has an empire of alliances.

You create a new alliance and put someone "you believe you trust" in command of that alliance. They turn around and do the same thing Tsuna has done. That person goes on vac mode the moment the **Filtered** hits the fan. What would you do about it? You can't change that alliances name, you can't dismiss the leader...... would you disband all your empire? Would you change your empires name? i don't think so. It could even happen to DDE one day, you just need one rotten apple and that's it.

Gunz may think he's doing the right thing. In someway he is because Tsuna and his followers shouldn't go unpunished. However, going after ALL TUF alliances makes Gunz just as bad as Tsuna. When people believe very strongly that they are doing the right thing they often are blinded to the wrong that they are doing, and this Gunz is a prime example.

Irony abound in this thread is all I`m going to say hehe...

Good point Clarkey but I do believe one of the main points to this declaration is to wake up the members there and encourage them to usurp the corrupt leadership..I would begin trying to find out the other accounts these people have and/or leave and reform with proper leadership. Thats what I would do, certainly amongst all of those members there is someone to stand up and speak up and lead the way..or maybe not.

Jedi~Tank wrote:Good point Clarkey but I do believe one of the main points to this declaration is to wake up the members there and encourage them to usurp the corrupt leadership..I would begin trying to find out the other accounts these people have and/or leave and reform with proper leadership. Thats what I would do, certainly amongst all of those members there is someone to stand up and speak up and lead the way..or maybe not.

Yes I would urge the members or leadership to look at their members and think back to everything related to Tsuna and see if they are missing something, or something happened that may now fit the puzzle.

For example, Tsuna's officer Elector Devion who is also in that alliance went on vacation mode too. Now it appears that he went on vac mode before Tsuna, but could it be they are connected. TUF need to look at that.

TUF should stand together and publically reject the leadership of VONGOLA and urge any innocent members of VONGOLA to leave and join the other TUF alliances.

They have an oppurtunity to do so if they are attentitive to what is going on, thats is one area that seperates an empire such as they and DDE or OE, the attention to what is happening and actually building a quality society as opposed to stacking for numbers. I mean they are what they are because of they way they are built and as you all know a house built on a crappy foundation will not stand when a storm comes.

Then end of TUF and it was GunZ who ended it
i guess you win GunZeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Jedi~Tank wrote:They have an oppurtunity to do so if they are attentitive to what is going on, thats is one area that seperates an empire such as they and DDE or OE, the attention to what is happening and actually building a quality society as opposed to stacking for numbers. I mean they are what they are because of they way they are built and as you all know a house built on a crappy foundation will not stand when a storm comes.

You make a lot of sense.

I guess it's not much concern now anyway.....

VONGOLA [TUF] Tsuna
TECHNOCRACY [TUF] defdragon123
CERVELLO [TUF] Kyoya

That's all that's left.

harchester wrote:Then end of TUF and it was GunZ who ended it
i guess you win GunZeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Gunz is huffin and puffin and blowin that house down..I love it!!

Gunz...Destroying empires since summer of '05

Jason... wrote:Gunz...Destroying empires since summer of '05

i would say out of all of the million members in TUF only one of them is actually what i would call a GOOD player

to say this is an empire is just funny...

They have no clear command
They have no power except for one guy
They dont fight back when you mass an allaince (except maybe one allaince) but they left now

the outcome of what would happen was predicable, simple really

A simple huff and puff would be more than enough to blow these peeps down

Jedi~Tank wrote:The Unbreakable Family ...maybe?

has just been broken