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Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:54 am
by minisaiyan
didnt see that abou planets previously.
I think thats a bad idea. If you are unable to protect them then perhaps you dont deserve to have them...
Taking planets is a tactic of war, and like how it becomes impossible to descend someone on ascended, it is seeminlgy becomming more and more difficult to strip someone of planets with more or less unlimited supply merlins, and now you can only lose a limited amount :/
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:59 am
by BenjaminMS
*shrugs* Planets have caused too much problems and fuss since their introduction, why not remove them at all? A lot of the code newly introduced into the game went into balancing planets, changing and removing rules about it and preventing abuse with/about it...
*shrugs once more*
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:04 am
by minisaiyan
too many people have put money into planets... there have been suggestions to phase them out, but it would be unfair to just press delete on them.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:07 am
by Juliette
BenjaminMS wrote:*shrugs* Planets have caused too much problems and fuss since their introduction, why not remove them at all? A lot of the code newly introduced into the game went into balancing planets, changing and removing rules about it and preventing abuse with/about it...
*shrugs once more*
You give the
answer to that
question yourself.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 7:55 am
by renegadze
wonder is Admin will let me sell of my hangers? seeing as they are almost completely pointless now
not sure how to reiterate this even more, but top fleets ingame cannot mass a LOT of planets BEFORE an update, with planet defs now being cheaper and also needing more fleets to mass the old defences, we're talking 100's trillions more investment needed
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:07 am
by [BoT] Jason
GeneralChaos wrote:[
This also will stop alliances planet stripping someones account during wars.
Just need that clarified.
No...Just means there shall now be planning in planet stripping...Like descending except its not so hurtful.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:32 am
by LegendaryA
Leg Apophis wrote:I'm curious in the first place why admin wants to make planets THAT hard to be stolen...
All those mini updates weren't needed together, each alone isn't bad, but the addition of all makes it negative.
In my opinion:
Cheaper defense planets should be possible ONLY if fleets can go down to 12% as it was, or keep 17.5% fleets with defence planets but not cheaper def facilities. One or the other is fine, addition of both isn't.
As for 3 planets per day, I think it should be 5 max at least, 3 as previously mentioned can be abused.
Rest is ok.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:44 am
by Easy^
Rottenking wrote:Easy^ wrote:Considering there is a lone wolf addition, shouldn't there be a lone alliance addition aswell?
I mean i see little or no point in being in a house with 5 alliances, because that automatically means i cannot farm them or my alliance mates, meanwhile it benefits the big empires that will take the house and are napped between eachother anyway.
Ridicolous
if you don't want to join a house because you can't farm those in the house, don't join
Jason has already stated their won't be bonuses for those alliences who don't want to join a house.
YES he did, and yes some pointed out and so i am pointing out again. IT IS Ridiculous that Big empires that are napped between alliances will benefit, and we who are not napped to anyone, would loose valuable farms for just being an alliance that doesn't kiss ass to anyone or isn't being just another sheep in the herd.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:49 am
by MaxSterling
renegadze wrote:wonder is Admin will let me sell of my hangers? seeing as they are almost completely pointless now
not sure how to reiterate this even more, but top fleets ingame cannot mass a LOT of planets BEFORE an update, with planet defs now being cheaper and also needing more fleets to mass the old defences, we're talking 100's trillions more investment needed
lmao... seriously quit your crying and acting like a drama queen. You're concentrating your argument on the top defended planets in the game and not even considering the numerous other planets not adequately protected that you
will be able to take.
Maybe 5% of
all planets are pretty safe. 95% of the planets out there are takeable.
It's like arguing a 5m army size will never be able to mass someone with 25m defense supers. If someone puts in the time and effort to build up their account much better than yours, just accept the fact and put in more of your own effort.
Do I agree with the planet update? Not necessarily... but then again I didn't agree with MS tech adding 30% fleets. This update counterbalances the MS tech update.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 8:53 am
by renegadze
MaxSterling wrote:renegadze wrote:wonder is Admin will let me sell of my hangers? seeing as they are almost completely pointless now
not sure how to reiterate this even more, but top fleets ingame cannot mass a LOT of planets BEFORE an update, with planet defs now being cheaper and also needing more fleets to mass the old defences, we're talking 100's trillions more investment needed
lmao... seriously quit your crying and acting like a drama queen. You're concentrating your argument on the top defended planets in the game and not even considering the numerous other planets not adequately protected that you
will be able to take.
Maybe 5% of
all planets are pretty safe. 95% of the planets out there are takeable.
It's like arguing a 5m army size will never be able to mass someone with 25m defense supers. If someone puts in the time and effort to build up their account much better than yours, just accept the fact and put in more of your own effort.
Do I agree with the planet update? Not necessarily... but then again I didn't agree with MS tech adding 30% fleets. This update counterbalances the MS tech update.
erm it's a hell of a lot more the 5% and it's the fact it will be fairly easy after the update to make a lot more unmassable...the cost for fleet compared to cost for planet defs just doesn't add up
it's hardly a drama queen to point of an intended update is at best rubbish...as worst nullifies another part of the game
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:05 am
by MaxSterling
renegadze wrote:erm it's a hell of a lot more the 5% and it's the fact it will be fairly easy after the update to make a lot more unmassable...the cost for fleet compared to cost for planet defs just doesn't add up
73,869 accounts. Let's say about 5 planets per account. That's 369,345 planets in the game. You want to convince me that 18,467 planets cannot be touched at all? You're an idiot. That would mean that everyone in G&R has over 12 untouchable planets.
renegadze wrote:it's hardly a drama queen to point of an intended update is at best rubbish...as worst nullifies another part of the game
renegadze wrote:wonder is Admin will let me sell of my hangers? seeing as they are almost completely pointless now
If this isn't drama, then I don't know what is. You may as well have dropped to the ground kicking and screaming because your parents said you can't have that toy you wanted.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:11 am
by LegendaryA
Not any planet off merlin should be 'untakeable' by let's say top 3 fleets accounts..(out of reach from 17.5% rule)
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:14 am
by GeneralChaos
Need this clarified, or would you rather have 1000 emails later complaining,
Surveys
You can get it for yourself, or others (with their ID).
You need to remove this, this can be far to easy to exploit, all you have to do it get a random dead account, put there ID in do survey farm the NAQ, then times that by 1000 dead accounts, you get the idea,
Make it that Surveys can only benefit you, not someone else you can farm.
Also $$ sellers could really exploit it, use dead account, farm naq sell for $$.
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:18 am
by renegadze
MaxSterling wrote:renegadze wrote:erm it's a hell of a lot more the 5% and it's the fact it will be fairly easy after the update to make a lot more unmassable...the cost for fleet compared to cost for planet defs just doesn't add up
73,869 accounts. Let's say about 5 planets per account. That's 369,345 planets in the game. You want to convince me that 18,467 planets cannot be touched at all? You're an idiot. That would mean that everyone in G&R has over 12 untouchable planets.
renegadze wrote:it's hardly a drama queen to point of an intended update is at best rubbish...as worst nullifies another part of the game
renegadze wrote:wonder is Admin will let me sell of my hangers? seeing as they are almost completely pointless now
If this isn't drama, then I don't know what is. You may as well have dropped to the ground kicking and screaming because your parents said you can't have that toy you wanted.
the 5% was based on an active account with good planets that would actually be worth stealing...where does your logic actually come from? off the back of a cereal box? Also with the cheaper planet defences I am guessing a LOT more people will now actually bother defending them
how many accounts in game do you think have 200k+ total fleets? with the updates the amount of flet you need will drastically go up.
A 2 tril planet def is currently massable, but not by many.....after the updates anything above that is going to get pretty hard to mass even for top fleets
Re: June 29th Updates (big / many...)
Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 10:53 am
by MEZZANINE
BOOOOOOOOOOOOO to Houses
Why not read the suggestions area and make updates players actually want ?