Control of game

[elvis.]

There is a simple solution to the Asgard problem...

Dont start awarding the bonus until there has been one galactic leadership change. That way the asgard do not get an advantage from already being at the top. It'll prove to be a way of establishing whether people are interested in this bonus system or not.

[KnightValor]

instead of 4 races in the battle why not count ancients and tollan and system lords and nanotimasters to make it 8 competing for it

i think original is still best those in control keep bonus etc. but that would make it achievable. if we split all the races into their ascended ones then theres 8 and that would cut the asgards control instead of 150kasgard itd be 80kancient 70kasgard meaning, even after split others could easily catvh them with some hard work.

i think the idea of switching leader every few weeks is pointless then what do people have to play for? they have no need to get invloved if game will change leadership automatically

Okay, this may be an old quote, but...

Your saying this kind of weakens your argument. Someone who was really thinking about it would think outside their own little world. I take it you are about rank 500+, right? Well, I have something to tell you... Just because you are in the top 500 doesn't mean all 20,000 users are. I know that at least half don't play, but open your eyes. If you think more than half the users have ascended you are seriously wack.

About unifying the races, it makes me wanna go kick some tauri ass. (I'm asgard) But your proposal is seriously flawed.


Here are the things I liked:

1. Give the opposing stats a 5% bonus instead of direct stats.

I liked that. People must get tired sometimes of having a certain weakness. I know I do. I can't stand how at least a third of my attacks are thwarted, even though I attack people way below me and have a kickass mothership...

2. Wait until the power shifts

It's a good idea to keep the asgard away from all the treasure, but once again flawed. When is it going to change without a bonus?

Here are my proposals. First off, Alliance Unity is very strong now, no? Well, why not break the races into, say, 12 dominant alliances. THree for each race. Each user is automatically added to one alliance so that power stays even between them, and any other players in that alliance automatically have relations set to peace (which can be changed later). You then attempt to create some sort of "friendly" environment with forums, announcements, strategies, whatever. People see other players from their mega alliance and form bonds, and those people help each other out or even as little as choose not to attack them at the moment.

This would very slightly decrease the amount of race vs. the same race attacking. Plus, leaders could be picked out of those alliances, who can declare war with another mega alliance, which sets all the relations with those players to war.

From there, you may be able to get away with this idea. But at the moment, the asgard are going nowhere.

[elvis.]

2. Wait until the power shifts

It's a good idea to keep the asgard away from all the treasure, but once again flawed. When is it going to change without a bonus?

It would change if the other races were interested in gaining the bonus. The only people without a strong incentive would be the asgard and that would only be temporary anyway.

[whitethatstiger]

The Asgards are in control and I think that this is a great idea it would make people want to be the top race even more then now they really don't even care right now what race is in first that is why Asgard is so far ahead because we try to get in first and stay in first.I think this would be a great idea.

[KnightValor]

2. Wait until the power shifts

It's a good idea to keep the asgard away from all the treasure, but once again flawed. When is it going to change without a bonus?

It would change if the other races were interested in gaining the bonus. The only people without a strong incentive would be the asgard and that would only be temporary anyway.

But would it? As wolf said, its pretty much pointless to try and fight the asgard, they'll usually just defend it. Even if not, you're gonna be paying a hefty price for just a millionth of a percent of the way towards a 5% bonus.

Basically:

There is no point discussing this as long the asgard are still in control. If you like the idea, wait until a shift, and then bring this up later. What is the point of the Admin having a standing challenge for years and years that nobody acheives?

[Grand Admiral Martin]

no one will achieve anything if theirs nothing to fight for, other races are just lazy and unwilling to risk losing men and naq to take on asgard defence.

and to respond to earlier comment im not ranked 500 im in mid 1200s

[The Dalek Empire]

no one will achieve anything if theirs nothing to fight for, other races are just lazy and unwilling to risk losing men and naq to take on asgard defence.

Look at the game though. The races are not unified - they are split into different Alliances (many of which hate each other passionately) and lone wolf type figures who are out only to ensure their continued survival. It makes no sense to offer a sweeping racial bonus to the race that happens to be in control, when really the divisions in the game have less to do with race than they do the inclinations of the players and their interractions with others as living creatures rather than advocates for their "race".

It would make more sense to reward the top alliance witha bonus than the top race.

[Wolf359]

hell, if anything give the underdog of the 4 the bonus

reward weakness? not how it goes.

making the stongest even stronger isalso not fair

[Wolf359]

no one will achieve anything if theirs nothing to fight for, other races are just lazy and unwilling to risk losing men and naq to take on asgard defence.

and to respond to earlier comment im not ranked 500 im in mid 1200s

What a load of crud!!!

The fact of the matter is the Asgard bonus gives them a huge advantage over the other races - because it is very effective and costs nothing to use it. The Tauri bonus on the other hand is expensive to use - the higher your attack is, the less profit you gain.

Having played this game since mid February I can say, without a shadow of a doubt, that the Asgard have not risked anything to get control of the universe. They simply built up their defences and sat back, raking in the naq, building their attack as and when they can, and adding to their immeasurable defence only when it becomes threatened. Realistically - the only people that were ever going to break those defences were the Tauri - but like I said - once you have a high enough attack to break an Asgard Defence you gain little or no profit.

Although recent updates have meant more naq is available - it does not mean that attacks are any more profitable - certainly not against the Asgard, as more naq means more defence - meaning the Tauri would need to invest in a higher attack to break the defence - hence higher repair costs.

It's a vicious cycle.

But I am particularly sick of hearing about how the Asgard fought to get to the top and fight to stay there - they got there, and stay there, because they are 'Fort Nox' players, not fighters!

The only time anyone cared about the control of the Universe was early on when it was a fight between the Goa'uld and the Tauri (didn't see much Asgard activity). They actually fought for it and took control from each other, with the Tauri eventually coming out on top and holding control. Then gradually, without any attacking, the Asgard took over - and, because they DO have the most advantageous bonus by far, they have retained it. It is nothing to do with fighting to keep it.

[TheSoulHarvester]

oh cut the crap! power is rewarded and if You want the spot of number one take it and stop complaining about it!

Asgard should be most powerful as they are the most advanced... stop complaining about naq, its not like its real money, You can get loads of it and use it up on Your atk, def whatever Your race bonus!

if Asgard were so uber, everyone would be asgard, but theyre not, Asgard are defensive, but our attack is crap, thats why I attack minimally, its not worth it! altho, with few weps and my MS against lower players, its quite effective ...

but I still vote for a bonus to the dominator. but I vote an income bonus, or free banking or sumthing that isnt that major in the overall stats.
perhaps a 5% bonus to income? then if Goauld would take over they would have UBER income :p

I mean something, that would make the race wars happen!

[KnightValor]

but I still vote for a bonus to the dominator. but I vote an income bonus, or free banking or sumthing that isnt that major in the overall stats.
perhaps a 5% bonus to income? then if Goauld would take over they would have UBER income :p

I mean something, that would make the race wars happen!

Actually... I like it.

Just do three things:

Make the "controller" based on the average rank of that race, not total power, not the amount in top 100, not a balance of all the comparisons.

Second, have the bonus only apply to those in, say, the top 1,000. even if that isn't all the users, it is still 1,000 users fighting each other, and it also makes it so that the dominant race won't have too much an upper hand... target the lower players that don't have a bonus!

Three, let it be a standing challenge. Once the power shifts, then the struggle will truly begin.

[[SGC_ReplicÅtors]]

first there is a huge huge huge power gap between rank 1 and rank 2...last time i check asgard power is 2x rank 2. and wecan all agree that the asgard did not figth for number 1!

All the asgards that i have come across all have atleast 5 billion def....even if u are able to break that type of defence....is it worth the naqada or any gains from them? No. and plus they have that unique bonus that furthers doubts the gains from asgard players!.

Even if we waited for a power change so we can implement the idea it would be a matter of time before the asgards would take back number 1 spot again.
waiting for a power change will not stop the asgard from gaining number1.

@ Walhalla
ALL wrong ur forgetting us replicators! we are the most advance so
the chances of a powershift is unlikey and probably unlikly for a very log time now.

This is game is slowly losing its touch since that market has been implememnted into this game the only reason why asgard have that much defence is too sit there and rake in billions and sell these billions for real money no more no less. these players do no care about the game and only care about profiting from it. and i dont think a massive race war will ever happen if these players contunui to exist...i dunno a massive reset for the main server seems like a better idea each day...

awarding the dominators with mroe of a bonus would give them more of a opurtunity to make even more money. to sell on the market.


this idea is a bad one! there are so many more issues that need to be dealt with besides putting a dominations bonus into the game

[KnightValor]

Wait a minute... here we are debating about the asgard being in control, how nobody cared about race wars since the game started...

why don't we just put this into effect ON CHAOS????

We have whole new races to fight for domination, Long live the Furlings!

Note: all re'ta suck. All children of the ori suck. You all suck. Long live the Furlings!

[The Dalek Empire]

Note: all Furlings suck. All children of the ori suck. You all suck. Long live the Re'tu!

Here here.

[TheSoulHarvester]

NO RESETS!!!! Ive worked hard on my account and want no reset!!! want to get resets go to chaos and Q!!!