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Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:12 am
by MEZZANINE
Ascended server is the part of the game that is an obligation not a pleasure, never played it, never intend to play it, and if Im descended everytime I go to bed or work, or spend time away from the game for several hours in RL then I dont really see the point in playing any more.

IMO

PPT in main should be in ascended too, the whole point of PPT is so you can take a break from playing for RL.

Descending anyone should take from 12-24 hours so they at least have a chance to login and notice whats going on.

Basically RL comes first

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:55 am
by [BoT] Jason
Admin has over fixed a problem, again

Put it back to 1/3 of LF or decrease ToC to make it feasible to have a life

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:57 am
by kojak
MEZZANINE wrote:Ascended server is the part of the game that is an obligation not a pleasure, never played it, never intend to play it, and if Im descended everytime I go to bed or work, or spend time away from the game for several hours in RL then I dont really see the point in playing any more.

IMO

PPT in main should be in ascended too, the whole point of PPT is so you can take a break from playing for RL.

Descending anyone should take from 12-24 hours so they at least have a chance to login and notice whats going on.

Basically RL comes first


=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

I 100% agree with the above...

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:17 am
by stuff of legends
vac your account then.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:21 am
by Iƒrit
hey your not the only one with a real life...........or is it the people doing the direct assualt shouldnt have a life?

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:25 am
by BMMJ13
Iƒrit wrote:hey your not the only one with a real life...........or is it the people doing the direct assualt shouldnt have a life?

Multiple people can do descension attacks, Descension attacks are not forced by people to do.

Only one person can repair their account, defending is forced as you must keep watch at all times if you actually want any benefit.

PPT is a reasonable idea to allow those to take similar time off on ascended compared to main, and not have to spend time watching their account to make sure they don't get descended.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:29 am
by Iƒrit
BMMJ13 wrote:
Iƒrit wrote:hey your not the only one with a real life...........or is it the people doing the direct assualt shouldnt have a life?

Multiple people can do descension attacks, Descension attacks are not forced by people to do.

Only one person can repair their account, defending is forced as you must keep watch at all times if you actually want any benefit.

PPT is a reasonable idea to allow those to take similar time off on ascended compared to main, and not have to spend time watching their account to make sure they don't get descended.

at the same time you cant log in for 1 minute 3 times a day? if you care about not being decended thats all it takes, so why come here critizing wanting to have more time... its 3 mins out of an entire day.....

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:33 am
by kojak
Yeah because in the 8 hours I am at work, the 1 hour travelling each way = 10hours, I cant log in, GW banned at work.

So your point really is invalid mate, when it comes to this. Its not possible for me to get on for at least 10 hours in a day.

Koji.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:40 am
by renegadze
BMMJ13 wrote:
Iƒrit wrote:hey your not the only one with a real life...........or is it the people doing the direct assualt shouldnt have a life?

Multiple people can do descension attacks, Descension attacks are not forced by people to do.

Only one person can repair their account, defending is forced as you must keep watch at all times if you actually want any benefit.

PPT is a reasonable idea to allow those to take similar time off on ascended compared to main, and not have to spend time watching their account to make sure they don't get descended.


People's moaning about "having" to login to ascended is flawed. A decent ascended account can already last way over 12 hours before it can be descended. If I login once a day I know there is no chance of anyone descending me. People I see complaining, spend hours playing the main server, when it takes just seconds to refill LF on ascended.

When you hit PPT on main...vac your ascended account...it's a simple solution, sure your income will take a bit of a dip - but surely if you're only on PPT because you want a break away from the game then you won't care for the naq you earn? other then that what effect does being on ascended vac have on a main account on PPT?

Despite what some people seem to think, the majority of "decent" ascended players won't descend people without provocation, i.e you over farm them on main\ascended or you're at war with them. Simply put we have better things to spend our turns on then descending randoms.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:42 am
by Iƒrit
kojak wrote:Yeah because in the 8 hours I am at work, the 1 hour travelling each way = 10hours, I cant log in, GW banned at work.

So your point really is invalid mate, when it comes to this. Its not possible for me to get on for at least 10 hours in a day.

Koji.

well possibly develop your stats so you don't have to check it so often......my point isnt invalid. If you are that worried as to being decended then vacation it and upgrade it as you can till you have no worries about going to work and home.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:09 am
by Robe
One of the biggest problems for years was that it was much easier to build defensive personal levels than TOC.

This resulted in players becoming complacent. They didn't need to log in because they couldn't be descended.

If a player doesn't log onto ascended (within a reasonable time frame) then they should be able to be descended,
despite their personal levels.

If a player spends a little time farming DMU, then they can can build decent personal levels to reduce the risk
and significantly extend the time it takes to be descended.

Game Update 2011 wrote:Considering doubling TOC moving the time between ascended on ascended attacks back to 3 hours.

If a player has high personal levels then its now going to take at least 15 - 24 hours before they can be descended.

I agree that the minimum descension period should be increased from 9 to 12 hours.

If a player doesn't want to play ascended then they can keep their existing ascended blessings and become a Daimon.

The downside is that they will lose double casualties in war but players should not get something for nothing.

Game Update 2007 wrote:If you wish to DESCEND YOURSELF - ie 'quit ascension' .. you can.
You will become a 'Daimon' - basicly a fallen divinity...This is the only race open to fallen ascendeds who chose their own demise... The bonuses are: whatever your ascended account was giving to your main account at the time of banishing yourself, MINUS the ascended blessing (so no unique tech to this race.) (for example if you were prior, you got 5% bonus on att/def/cov/income, and the ascended blessing, and new weapon valus. You keep all but the ascended blessing.) A Daimon DOES NOT GAIN GLORY and, in battle and covert, TAKES DOUBLE CASULAITIES -- basicly, they are living fast and dying fast :). From this race, you can choose a fully mortal race, or keep this race. No other options.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 4:57 am
by Duderanch
Iƒrit wrote:hey your not the only one with a real life...........or is it the people doing the direct assualt shouldnt have a life?


The thing you seem to be missing is YOU CHOOSE to try and descend someone. If you are in an alliance war then work as a team to descend someone.

If someone is farming you too much and you want to descend them by yourself to make a point then alocate the time.

@Robe - I agree if people are inactive then they should be able to be descended, but i don't agree no matter their defencive levels. If they have put the effort in to properly defend their account then why should theybe descended?

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:20 am
by Iƒrit
Duderanch wrote:
Iƒrit wrote:hey your not the only one with a real life...........or is it the people doing the direct assualt shouldnt have a life?


The thing you seem to be missing is YOU CHOOSE to try and descend someone. If you are in an alliance war then work as a team to descend someone.

If someone is farming you too much and you want to descend them by yourself to make a point then alocate the time.

@Robe - I agree if people are inactive then they should be able to be descended, but i don't agree no matter their defencive levels. If they have put the effort in to properly defend their account then why should theybe descended?

and you choose to not log in?? whats your point... you assert that people should have time away from game unless they are trying to descend...I am pointing out the hypocrisy. All people have real lives here not just those who don't wanna have to worry about ascended.

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:51 am
by Duderanch
No, i'm saying poeple should have to log into defend themselves, i just think there should be a minimum 12hr gap beween when you apsolutely HAVEto log in to defend yourself for people like me that work long shifts with lots of travel and no access to PC.

How is that hypocrcy exactly?

Re: Ascended

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:58 am
by Iƒrit
that was not the implication I received via your comment, my apologies for misunderstanding. You already have a 9 hour handicap, if you work your levels up you can easily achieve 12+ hours.