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Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:21 am
by Lithium
the deal as far as i read is to stay in FS for 1 year and fight dde afte buying the account, the trade went ok no one is complaining for the $ but the deal was broken. one side claims he did not put any effort in the war and left the alliance in the mid term of his deal.

did any forced Corey to accept that deal???

also i remember theres a question in the OE app regarding do u ve any unfinished business withany alliance/member smth like that.

its a free game and players can behave as they want and the matter is between the two who made the deal. whatever the deal is.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:55 am
by Borek
Only reason we got involved was we were messaged to boot him by FS, obviously we do not take scammers/cheats etc and yes Corey did mention it in his App so we knew there was some issue, but as others have said a scam is when goods or services are received and not paid for, or fully paid for, he paid the agreed price, the only issue was the exact terms of the deal.

I was told that he had to fight DDE or return the account which he did offer and had rejected, on top of that the exact terms have never been given to me despite talking to Mez and Brothers via PM.

I did what most competent alliances would do in a similar situation, i found out as many facts as i could and posted them for the OE HC to read and comment on. Unanimous decision was that unless FS can provide some facts/proof to back up their claims of a scam then we saw no reason to remove Korruption as he had in fact paid for his account as agreed and had put in 6-7 months time into a war.

Key points for us was the claim the account was worth much more than what was paid can clearly be seen to be false, the initial claim that he was a member for less than a month was false and since he did offer the account back when he left the alliance and had that rejected i am at a complete loss as to exactly what FS expected him to do.

Would anyone here pay $150 for an account that was not even a great deal for that price, play it for 6 months building it up from garbage to reasonable level, only to then pay another $160 just to stop some **Filtered** massing you over and over because he thinks he can re-write a deal 7 months after it was made?

Honestly i would love to give FS the benefit of the doubt over this, but they have given me nothing, literally nothing, to help their case. Not even a response to exactly what deal Korruption is supposed to have signed up to and why he should pay more than double the price of the account just because they didn't want it back after he was a member for 6-7 months.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 8:57 am
by RepliMagni
Lithium wrote:the matter is between the two who made the deal.


Indeed. It is between Brothers and Korruption. ;)

It is these attempts at propaganda which annoy me.

OE has not endorsed scamming. Does not endorse scamming. And never will endorse scamming.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:31 am
by MEZZANINE
RepliMagni wrote:
Lithium wrote:the matter is between the two who made the deal.


Indeed. It is between Brothers and Korruption. ;)

It is these attempts at propaganda which annoy me.

OE has not endorsed scamming. Does not endorse scamming. And never will endorse scamming.


I didnt want this opened and only replied in it after Borek made his post since he seems to be trying to defend Corey. We have no need or wish to use propaganda against OE, in fact until this incident we considered ourselves to have pretty good relations with OE. It's only a shame the trust we showed you when dealing with Almost38 is clearly one way.

Ive never said OE endorse scamming, all I said was I was disappointed in OEs decision, you've clearly been sucked in just like we were when we gave Corey a 2nd chance, and once again Corey through smooth talking in private has got others intervening and defending him while he does nothing.

OE will realise their mistake sooner or later and when that happens we will smugly say 'Told You So', and next time someone rips you off in a trade dont come crying to us about it unless you have a signed contract witnesses by a solicitor, with independent valuations etc.



Corey has been sat on for several months and will continue to be regardless of posts made here, if anyone else wants to intervene on his behalf and fight his battles for him ( No doubt the reason he joined OE ) then step up in game or stay out the way.


Sick of repeating myself now so nothing more to say on the matter.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:43 am
by RoKeT
This is true... I POSTED THIS....

Not becuase brothers asked, Mezz, Coyler, ANY OTHER FS MEMBER didn't even know I was going to post it...

I posted this because I was sitting there thinking about how funny Scott (Harch) was liking my post about Scum Bags on FB... yeah yeah really funny bro.... Anyways then I saw Korruption asking to buy yet another thing... So I did my thing and said as I do always when I see his posts that he is a scammer and needs to be watched, Then I see a HUGE Alpha tag... Now... I"m fairly sure everyone knows I don't really like OE, some of it's members but as a whole not really, Anyways... Then I speak to me Mum (Insaneone) leader of Alpha... And nothing was done... Well IMO it's time to be made public... If you lot are going to allow a scammer in... Meh... I'll make it public ;)

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:45 am
by Clarkey
RoKeT wrote:This is true... I POSTED THIS....

Not becuase brothers asked, Mezz, Coyler, ANY OTHER FS MEMBER didn't even know I was going to post it...

I posted this because I was sitting there thinking about how funny Scott (Harch) was liking my post about Scum Bags on FB... yeah yeah really funny bro.... Anyways then I saw Korruption asking to buy yet another thing... So I did my thing and said as I do always when I see his posts that he is a scammer and needs to be watched, Then I see a HUGE Alpha tag... Now... I"m fairly sure everyone knows I don't really like OE, some of it's members but as a whole not really, Anyways... Then I speak to me Mum (Insaneone) leader of Alpha... And nothing was done... Well IMO it's time to be made public... If you lot are going to allow a scammer in... Meh... I'll make it public ;)
RoKeT you know I like ya, but someone changing one's mind and attempting to offer something to end the "contract" is not scamming.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:48 am
by RoKeT
Clarkey wrote:
RoKeT wrote:This is true... I POSTED THIS....

Not becuase brothers asked, Mezz, Coyler, ANY OTHER FS MEMBER didn't even know I was going to post it...

I posted this because I was sitting there thinking about how funny Scott (Harch) was liking my post about Scum Bags on FB... yeah yeah really funny bro.... Anyways then I saw Korruption asking to buy yet another thing... So I did my thing and said as I do always when I see his posts that he is a scammer and needs to be watched, Then I see a HUGE Alpha tag... Now... I"m fairly sure everyone knows I don't really like OE, some of it's members but as a whole not really, Anyways... Then I speak to me Mum (Insaneone) leader of Alpha... And nothing was done... Well IMO it's time to be made public... If you lot are going to allow a scammer in... Meh... I'll make it public ;)
RoKeT you know I like ya, but someone changing one's mind and attempting to offer something to end the "contract" is not scamming.


Offer? Clarkey after 6 month's he asked for 25 dollars MORE then the origianal thats Ridiculous NO NONE NADDA account go's up in 6 months never seen it never will 6 months is far to long for this game's Market to be like that

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:51 am
by Rudy Peña
Roket my boy, you are wrong in this case. Please tell us and show us proof he scammed?


You just like to go with the flow and be a follower. I have seen you flip sides of everything so much, you have more experience than a political person of 20 years+ of flipping sides.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:51 am
by Clarkey
RoKeT wrote:
Clarkey wrote:
RoKeT wrote:This is true... I POSTED THIS....

Not becuase brothers asked, Mezz, Coyler, ANY OTHER FS MEMBER didn't even know I was going to post it...

I posted this because I was sitting there thinking about how funny Scott (Harch) was liking my post about Scum Bags on FB... yeah yeah really funny bro.... Anyways then I saw Korruption asking to buy yet another thing... So I did my thing and said as I do always when I see his posts that he is a scammer and needs to be watched, Then I see a HUGE Alpha tag... Now... I"m fairly sure everyone knows I don't really like OE, some of it's members but as a whole not really, Anyways... Then I speak to me Mum (Insaneone) leader of Alpha... And nothing was done... Well IMO it's time to be made public... If you lot are going to allow a scammer in... Meh... I'll make it public ;)
RoKeT you know I like ya, but someone changing one's mind and attempting to offer something to end the "contract" is not scamming.


Offer? Clarkey after 6 month's he asked for 25 dollars MORE then the origianal thats Ridiculous NO NONE NADDA account go's up in 6 months never seen it never will 6 months is far to long for this game's Market to be like that
So this is all about the $25? Are you saying if he offered it back for $150 and the offer was still declined then he wouldn't be labelled as a scammer by you?

And from what I've seen in this thread Korruption did a lot to the account that would definitely push it up by $25 if not more.

I personally don't like Korruption especially from when we were both in TDD together, but if you are going to label him then label him correctly rather than incorrectly use the term scammer.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:53 am
by Borek
well he had ascended from queen to origin, more than doubled the MS to 1t power, built the ascended account up from nothing to pretty decent, on top of that FS made zero attempt to negotiate the price they just flat out said no.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:55 am
by RoKeT
Clarkey wrote:
RoKeT wrote:
Clarkey wrote:
RoKeT wrote:This is true... I POSTED THIS....

Not becuase brothers asked, Mezz, Coyler, ANY OTHER FS MEMBER didn't even know I was going to post it...

I posted this because I was sitting there thinking about how funny Scott (Harch) was liking my post about Scum Bags on FB... yeah yeah really funny bro.... Anyways then I saw Korruption asking to buy yet another thing... So I did my thing and said as I do always when I see his posts that he is a scammer and needs to be watched, Then I see a HUGE Alpha tag... Now... I"m fairly sure everyone knows I don't really like OE, some of it's members but as a whole not really, Anyways... Then I speak to me Mum (Insaneone) leader of Alpha... And nothing was done... Well IMO it's time to be made public... If you lot are going to allow a scammer in... Meh... I'll make it public ;)
RoKeT you know I like ya, but someone changing one's mind and attempting to offer something to end the "contract" is not scamming.


Offer? Clarkey after 6 month's he asked for 25 dollars MORE then the origianal thats Ridiculous NO NONE NADDA account go's up in 6 months never seen it never will 6 months is far to long for this game's Market to be like that
So this is all about the $25? Are you saying if he offered it back for $150 and the offer was still declined then he wouldn't be labelled as a scammer by you?

And from what I've seen in this thread Korruption did a lot to the account that would definitely push it up by $25 if not more.

I personally don't like Korruption especially from when we were both in TDD together, but if you are going to label him then label him correctly rather than incorrectly use the term scammer.


Well I wouldn't fight you on it your the most knowlidgable on the subject so I'd respect what you say if you say he is not Labled a scammer what would you call it?

because when Harchester screwed me I called him a scammer yet he did the same thing... He gave me something in return just not what he said he was going to give me...

and Rudy :smt019 :smt019 :smt019 :smt019 :smt019

I love you :) I should be a politician I'd be your boss hehehehehehe

and Borek I understnad why they would say no I would have been very offended with the offer, Brothers is a trader, his account's "rely" on that to an extent... when someone messes up your account trades and or whatever it does affect you and your game play

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:57 am
by Clarkey
RoKeT, Harchester scammed you 100%. Korruption changed his mind after 6 months (maybe due to feeling neglected by FS? I dunno, but changed his mind nonetheless), he tried to put forward an offer to negotiate his early release from the 1 year agreement. The offer was rejected without consideration.

That is the difference between Harchester scamming you and Korruption changing his mind for whatever reason.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 9:59 am
by Rudy Peña
At most he is more not to be taken by his word, dishonorable....words like that..
Boy you said you used to trade accounts, Did anyone ever upgrade there stats on both main and ascended, then resell it for a bit more????? You did the same thing with all your accounts. so you are a scammer yourself.

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:01 am
by RoKeT
What you are failing to grasp though is that he had agreed to pay more if he left FS before that time because the account was worth more at the time so he was getting a good deal (because he was a team mate) so there for he got out with a nice account that 6 months later was STILL worth 25 dollars more market value...

Rudy love again, I believe the above paragraph answers that too

Re: OE question for you...

Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2011 10:08 am
by MEZZANINE
Borek wrote:well he had ascended from queen to origin, more than doubled the MS to 1t power, built the ascended account up from nothing to pretty decent, on top of that FS made zero attempt to negotiate the price they just flat out said no.



Why the hell would anyone renegotiate a trade made several months before ( now almost 18 months ago ) for something that has massively depreciated in value regardless of upgrades ??? Deal was made, deal should be honored, end of ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)

If you bought a car on a 3 year hire purchase agreement, after a year it it has massively depreciated, that dont mean you can go back the dealership change pay less.



If you think this BS will get him off the hook or get him a cheap way out you are wrong, Corey will be sat on until he pays up or leaves. For that matter so will Harch if he ever returns.

Does anyone really doubt the resolve of FS to fight forever against those that do us wrong ???? :smt043