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Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:35 am
by ~Kronos~
lord sethen wrote:i think the glory amount should go up as you accended level goes up
That's a great idea

Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:37 pm
by EAT THE WATERMELON
Ron Burgandy wrote:Thats not the problem, since the game moved away from the GW franchise the game has less attraction as for most of us that was our original lure to the game
Dont make it easier, make it more attractive, advertise it, give it a facelift and the difficulty wont matter if the community grows
Games like this lose out to the more updated flashier/shinier new games that are out because bear in mind this game is over 5 years old and the community of players have kept this game going more than anything else in my opinion
i agree 100%
a facelift is needed ESPESSILY ON THE ASCENDED SERVER
i do likme the idea of changing the amount of g and r required but only to make it harder to ascend at the higher lvls
im fine with 500 g and r for the first one +125 for each ascencion after
the game is old, there are many small tweaks that would help
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but why would you want 100 g and r for the first ascencion thats just an hour over a day
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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO HELLLLLLL NO
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Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:20 am
by Loki™
~Kronos~ wrote:lord sethen wrote:i think the glory amount should go up as you accended level goes up
That's a great idea

Idiotic idea. Ascensions go too slow as it is.
Another option to speed them up would be that you needed to wait only a week between the first 10 ascension.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 3:32 am
by [BoT] Jason
Gothmog wrote:~Kronos~ wrote:lord sethen wrote:i think the glory amount should go up as you accended level goes up
That's a great idea

Idiotic idea. Ascensions go too slow as it is.
Another option to speed them up would be that you needed to wait only a week between the first 10 ascension.
I think he meant maybe that the GnR goes up each ascension after its reduced from what it currently is

And there should be no time cap for the first 10
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:15 am
by ~Kronos~
[BoT] Jason wrote:Gothmog wrote:~Kronos~ wrote:lord sethen wrote:i think the glory amount should go up as you accended level goes up
That's a great idea

Idiotic idea. Ascensions go too slow as it is.
Another option to speed them up would be that you needed to wait only a week between the first 10 ascension.
I think he meant maybe that the GnR goes up each ascension after its reduced from what it currently is

And there should be no time cap for the first 10
I think that's what he meant too.
I don't think either option is idiotic, the one you assumed it was may be inconvenient, but not stupid. Try less hostility please. It's annoying to read.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:05 am
by Loki™
~Kronos~ wrote:[BoT] Jason wrote:Gothmog wrote:~Kronos~ wrote:lord sethen wrote:i think the glory amount should go up as you accended level goes up
That's a great idea

Idiotic idea. Ascensions go too slow as it is.
Another option to speed them up would be that you needed to wait only a week between the first 10 ascension.
I think he meant maybe that the GnR goes up each ascension after its reduced from what it currently is

And there should be no time cap for the first 10
I think that's what he meant too.
I don't think either option is idiotic, the one you assumed it was may be inconvenient, but not stupid. Try less hostility please. It's annoying to read.
The one I assumed was idiotic and will stay as such even if I put it more mildly.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:19 am
by ~Kronos~
Gothmog wrote:~Kronos~ wrote:[BoT] Jason wrote:Gothmog wrote:~Kronos~ wrote:lord sethen wrote:i think the glory amount should go up as you accended level goes up
That's a great idea

Idiotic idea. Ascensions go too slow as it is.
Another option to speed them up would be that you needed to wait only a week between the first 10 ascension.
I think he meant maybe that the GnR goes up each ascension after its reduced from what it currently is

And there should be no time cap for the first 10
I think that's what he meant too.
I don't think either option is idiotic, the one you assumed it was may be inconvenient, but not stupid. Try less hostility please. It's annoying to read.
The one I assumed was idiotic and will stay as such even if I put it more mildly.
Fair enough...
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 9:54 am
by Quina Quen
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:03 am
by Juliette
General Riviera wrote:If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
A-expletive-men. Expletive optional.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 1:56 pm
by Quina Quen
Notice how they all get their proverbial rags in a twist over something that largely does not even affect them anyway. New players, ok. I don't see the haters/moaners actually bringing any new blood to the game despite all their campaigning for 'fair gaming man'.
I gave a 17x ascended account to a new player for nothing (J, thank you), because I saw potential and I actually respected the fact that said player never once blasted *thanks Meli* or moaned about having to ascend. It was the right thing to do because the person will actually make it to the very top of this game (what's left of it anyway according to the negative ones in the GW community). Why change a working format because you happen to be of the naive notion that it will promote the longevity of the game? Making abrupt and drastic changes to ascension (shortening it) will only promote further reduction of the games' lifespan because the games' ultimate economy now relies not on resources, but TIME.
Have a little trust, and a little bit more faith in new players. Instead of giving them an 'all day wristband to ride the Big One as many times as they damn well like with no one else in the park' how about letting those who are patient enough to que for the ride, que, and enjoy the satisfaction of having worked hard and waited for the same.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:50 pm
by Eisen Feuer
I have an alternative option to throw into the fray. Instead of making people do individual 1 time ascensions at lower levels how about we set a 750 G&R requirement per ascension until LG+1. Then It returns to normal 1000.
However, in order to undergo this special ascension you must gain the x number of ascensions worth of G&R to make that target.
So if you choose to do 6 ascensions it would take 4501 G&R. The way we can offset this allowance is to make them pay an aggregated cost of the maximum ascension lvl and multiply the ascension lvls (6) with a 75% In a sense it would cost more resources to ascend this way but it would also allow people to ascend slightly quicker without really dampening the hardships of early ascension in the game.
Side by side comparison.
LG+1 standard
3499 UP Minimum
UU Prior to LG+1 standard
602,876
Trained Units Prior to LG+1 standard
347,359
Naq Prior to LG+1 standard
8,686,000,000 (rounded up)
LG+1 NAS(New Ascension Standard)
15,750 UP minimum
UU Prior to LG+1 NAS
885,681
Trained Units Prior to LG+1 NAS
551,088
Naq Prior to LG+1 NAS
13,777,312,496
Now at low ranks it might be more expensive but it could decrease time to ascend while still giving a good understanding of more difficult ascensions. After this early phase though I suggest multiascension be disabled and a return to single ascensions at 1000 per to remain the standard above LG+1.
It would be fair to make ascensions to LG+1 easier since the game is so late in its lifetime newer players are instantly chastised unable to compete. Raising the requirements for a multiascension will enable newer players to gain experience for a period of time and allow them to become more accustomed to more difficult ascensions.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:04 am
by ~Sabaku no Gaara~
I agree to speed up ascension!
This will make new players stay.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2011 11:55 am
by Investor
How about more place to get more points. I think you start get points around rank 1200 and you only get one point ever 30min. how about make it where you get more points the high rank you get to.
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 6:49 am
by Eisen Feuer
Investor wrote:How about more place to get more points. I think you start get points around rank 1200 and you only get one point ever 30min. how about make it where you get more points the high rank you get to.
It is already that way. However maybe a way to get 3 g&R between 1180 and 180 somewhere. and then a way to get 7 G&r between 180 and 1.
Maybe set a new mark of equal to half distances between 1G&R range and 5G&r range for 3.
But for the new mark between 5 and 10 G&r make it 75% closer to 10 G&R than it is to 5 G&R.
1G&r rank 1200
3G&r rank 660
5G&r rank 120
7G&r rank 30
10G&r rank 1
Re: Speed Up Ascension
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2011 10:04 am
by Quina Quen
That wouldn't actually help newer players. The richer/more experienced players would occupy the higher GnR thresholds and the rest would be forced out back to 1 GnR as they are currently.