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like all Christianity festivals it started as a pagan festival

Christmas was originally the holiday of Saturnalia (Roman Pagan festival) 17th to the 25th dec were the law ceased to have power during that time

up until the 4CE then it in essance became Christmas in an effort to covert the pagan to Christianity

Rabbid Thom wrote:like all Christianity festivals it started as a pagan festival

Christmas was originally the holiday of Saturnalia (Roman Pagan festival) 17th to the 25th dec were the law ceased to have power during that time

up until the 4CE then it in essance became Christmas in an effort to covert the pagan to Christianity

Further back mate,,allot further back.

Let's face it the majority of people worldwide celebrate Christmas because it's Christmas and not because of anything religious or historic. Didn't say all, but majority. If you don't believe that then you are fooling yourself.

Clarkey wrote:

~BrunoDaOzzy~ wrote:It was just an idea , you don't have to bite me.. unless your a sexy female then you can do more then that.......

haha I've been in a war free zone for 5 months! @SS

i got ya beat ^^ 6 months for me MWA HA HA HA

anywho....

this argument is retarded on all fronts. and bunch of people just getting pissed. and besides, ppt was put in place for this type of reason.

yes, even though christmas is supposed to be a christian thing (at this point in time meant to celebrate the birth of christ who was not actually born on that day, but is off of the pegan holiday) it has grown more towards being a market thing where people buy gifts for each other and be with their family than a christian holiday (hell, most of my atheist friends do a lot more for it than me and my other christian friends). and why are people getting angry, i mean really. this is probably about the stupidest reason to get angry about, whenever i see this argument come up in real life it makes me laugh.

Whenever religion is involved some people tend to get tetchy easily. One reason why i'm extremely glad i'm not a bit religious.

Nay.

TheFlash4 wrote:

Clarkey wrote:

~BrunoDaOzzy~ wrote:It was just an idea , you don't have to bite me.. unless your a sexy female then you can do more then that.......

haha I've been in a war free zone for 5 months! @SS

i got ya beat ^^ 6 months for me MWA HA HA HA

anywho....

this argument is retarded on all fronts. and bunch of people just getting pissed. and besides, ppt was put in place for this type i reason.

yes, even though christmas is supposed to be a christian thing (at this point in time meant to celebrate the birth of christ who was not actually born on that day, but is off of the pegan holiday) it has grown more towards being a market thing where people buy gifts for each other and be with their family than a christian holiday (hell, most of my atheist friends do a lot more for it than me and my other christian friends). and why are people getting angry, i mean really. this is probably about the stupidest reason to get angry about, whenever i see this argument come up in real life it makes me laugh.

Yea..I am always curious as to how many or who know where it actually started, just for duscussion sake...me and my fam are christian..we do celebrate the holiday because its tradition..but we do not celebrate it as Christ's birthday...as a matter of fact the only celebration we are to have...according to the good book is........onto trivia, 5 tril naq to the one that gets 2trivia questions right......

#1- where did the celebration of the holiday we now know as christmas began?
Hint..it predates the church age and the Roman empire

#2- In Christendom, what event are Christians to observe/celebrate?
Hint..there is only 1, and it is not a holiday

winter solstice (shortest day of year) though thats the 21st
easter, resurrection of christ

TheFlash4 wrote:winter solstice (shortest day of year) though thats the 21st
easter, resurrection of christ

Bzzzzzzzzt..nope not it.

Actually I apologize for taking Bruno's thread down this road..perhaps a mod can split and make a topic titled JT' holiday trivia

Happy RamaHanuKwanzMas!

Jedi~Tank wrote:

TheFlash4 wrote:winter solstice (shortest day of year) though thats the 21st
easter, resurrection of christ

Bzzzzzzzzt..nope not it.

Actually I apologize for taking Bruno's thread down this road..perhaps a mod can split and make a topic titled JT' holiday trivia

You to sexy JT.... Take the thread where ever you want.. You my hero

TheFlash4 wrote:this argument is retarded on all fronts. and bunch of people just getting pissed. and besides, ppt was put in place for this type of reason.

yes, even though christmas is supposed to be a christian thing (at this point in time meant to celebrate the birth of christ who was not actually born on that day, but is off of the pegan holiday) it has grown more towards being a market thing where people buy gifts for each other and be with their family than a christian holiday (hell, most of my atheist friends do a lot more for it than me and my other christian friends). and why are people getting angry, i mean really. this is probably about the stupidest reason to get angry about, whenever i see this argument come up in real life it makes me laugh.

So true!

Jedi~Tank wrote:

TheFlash4 wrote:

Clarkey wrote:

~BrunoDaOzzy~ wrote:It was just an idea , you don't have to bite me.. unless your a sexy female then you can do more then that.......

haha I've been in a war free zone for 5 months! @SS

i got ya beat ^^ 6 months for me MWA HA HA HA

anywho....

this argument is retarded on all fronts. and bunch of people just getting pissed. and besides, ppt was put in place for this type i reason.

yes, even though christmas is supposed to be a christian thing (at this point in time meant to celebrate the birth of christ who was not actually born on that day, but is off of the pegan holiday) it has grown more towards being a market thing where people buy gifts for each other and be with their family than a christian holiday (hell, most of my atheist friends do a lot more for it than me and my other christian friends). and why are people getting angry, i mean really. this is probably about the stupidest reason to get angry about, whenever i see this argument come up in real life it makes me laugh.

Yea..I am always curious as to how many or who know where it actually started, just for duscussion sake...me and my fam are christian..we do celebrate the holiday because its tradition..but we do not celebrate it as Christ's birthday...as a matter of fact the only celebration we are to have...according to the good book is........onto trivia, 5 tril naq to the one that gets 2trivia questions right......

#1- where did the celebration of the holiday we now know as christmas began?
Hint..it predates the church age and the Roman empire

#2- In Christendom, what event are Christians to observe/celebrate?
Hint..there is only 1, and it is not a holiday

1- Christ-mass is associated at Saturnalia Festival that was the most important event or feast of pagans in Rome, the feast day was in 17 dec, later on 23 dec some unofficial festive days were added.
“Christmas…was not observed in the first centuries of the Christian church, since the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth…a feast was established in memory of this event [Christ’s birth] in the 4th century. In the 5th century the Western church ordered the feast to be celebrated on the day of the Mithraic rites of the birth of the sun and at the close of the Saturnalia, as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ’s birth existed.”

2- All christian religious feast are related to the Christ life. they start whith his birthday (which no one knows even as a year figure out as a day) , the first records starts from Jesus baptism and continue...
The most two important are his birth and his resurrection from crucifixion (eastern).
celebrating birthdays comes from Egypt and Jews as only Pharaohs were celebrating their birthday. Also his resurrection is a feast even tho orthodox and catholic have two diff dates.
so i think its the day of his death... the Memorial of Christ's Death, which falls around Good Friday each year.

aye broker em now

on a side note from the little i ve read about the christian religion i can truly say that was a mistake. they transformed the little truth left from the god/s to their advantage in controlling the masses of population. a lot of history was cleaned and replaced which we are hardly discovering nowadays. i cant imagine the cleanup they did in East and Americas.

Lithium wrote:

Jedi~Tank wrote:

TheFlash4 wrote:

Clarkey wrote:

~BrunoDaOzzy~ wrote:It was just an idea , you don't have to bite me.. unless your a sexy female then you can do more then that.......

haha I've been in a war free zone for 5 months! @SS

i got ya beat ^^ 6 months for me MWA HA HA HA

anywho....

this argument is retarded on all fronts. and bunch of people just getting pissed. and besides, ppt was put in place for this type i reason.

yes, even though christmas is supposed to be a christian thing (at this point in time meant to celebrate the birth of christ who was not actually born on that day, but is off of the pegan holiday) it has grown more towards being a market thing where people buy gifts for each other and be with their family than a christian holiday (hell, most of my atheist friends do a lot more for it than me and my other christian friends). and why are people getting angry, i mean really. this is probably about the stupidest reason to get angry about, whenever i see this argument come up in real life it makes me laugh.

Yea..I am always curious as to how many or who know where it actually started, just for duscussion sake...me and my fam are christian..we do celebrate the holiday because its tradition..but we do not celebrate it as Christ's birthday...as a matter of fact the only celebration we are to have...according to the good book is........onto trivia, 5 tril naq to the one that gets 2trivia questions right......

#1- where did the celebration of the holiday we now know as christmas began?
Hint..it predates the church age and the Roman empire

#2- In Christendom, what event are Christians to observe/celebrate?
Hint..there is only 1, and it is not a holiday

1- Christ-mass is associated at Saturnalia Festival that was the most important event or feast of pagans in Rome, the feast day was in 17 dec, later on 23 dec some unofficial festive days were added.
“Christmas…was not observed in the first centuries of the Christian church, since the Christian usage in general was to celebrate the death of remarkable persons rather than their birth…a feast was established in memory of this event [Christ’s birth] in the 4th century. In the 5th century the Western church ordered the feast to be celebrated on the day of the Mithraic rites of the birth of the sun and at the close of the Saturnalia, as no certain knowledge of the day of Christ’s birth existed.”

2- All christian religious feast are related to the Christ life. they start whith his birthday (which no one knows even as a year figure out as a day) , the first records starts from Jesus baptism and continue...
The most two important are his birth and his resurrection from crucifixion (eastern).
celebrating birthdays comes from Egypt and Jews as only Pharaohs were celebrating their birthday. Also his resurrection is a feast even tho orthodox and catholic have two diff dates.
so i think its the day of his death... the Memorial of Christ's Death, which falls around Good Friday each year.

aye broker em now

on a side note from the little i ve read about the christian religion i can truly say that was a mistake. they transformed the little truth left from the god/s to their advantage in controlling the masses of population. a lot of history was cleaned and replaced which we are hardly discovering nowadays. i cant imagine the cleanup they did in East and Americas.

Nice try, but way too recent mate. Hint...it all predates the Roman Empire, which predates the church age.

Christians replaced a pagan holiday with their own. So what?