~Tziki~ wrote:Yes you do. And its not balanced.
People are still at the top that have gotten their during a time the server was dead and farming for 500t-1q was considered a normal hit. People who also got 1500 physicals when ascended was first brought out because they had the ability to instantly convert all APP, which at the time wasnt terrible (im believe that happened later, as Reborn has mentioned)
rank 3 ToC has been inactive for maybe 2 years now and stayed there, because its so in balanced and farming has become that much worse that those who profited/abused the previous economy are now laughing about it.
The idea is to prevent $$ being used to build a godly account. well it can still be done just by trading Naq for DMU, so nothing was achieved by implementing the APP.
No one is hating on SoL and what he has done for ascended, just the attitude taken towards this issue in particular.
Hate repeating myself, especially with this whole issue since I've said similar things over and over and over again.
New kids get a **Filtered** TON of LF when they start off. Min of 400 bill per day, that's 4 quad a day for doing nothing, for a new account. Not your account, a new account. (imma drag that other thread into here as well), they DON'T need an increase in dmu for AT conversions because of this.
Perhaps you don't understand, that's 0-1,073 physical attack for taking the rest of the day off, you think they can't catch up?
'But sooooooooool what if they can't get resources in main to ascend with to get APP's'
You get a default account with a stack of resources on when you ascend with NG, you wipe your bums with naq and you shoot UU for the funzies, nough said.
'But soooooooool it's not working, $$ traders are still gonna get dmu'z and and and peoples have a lot of dmu's for playing ascended when it wasn't cooooool'
Stiff **Filtered**.
$$ traders will always exist, but it's better I can cut an infected limb off than let them gain tons of dmu from opening up a major gateway.
Yeah sure, dmu was plentiful back in the day, but here's the thing, there are farmers getting MORE now than what I could get back in the day, and I thought I was a king. Secondly there are many more avenues for gaining dmu now then there have been before I started, thirdly stop **Filtered** about others that have played longer than you have and have more than you have.
Robe has been inactive for awhile yes, but I watched her build up her account every single day for ages, she has put in a fair bit of effort into it (and probably bought dmu from others as well, but who hasn't). Also the other kids behind her have only like 400 mill less TOC. If they maybe focus like hell on their TOC's I daresay they could catch up quite easily.
You seem stuck on this perspective that everyone who played ascended before it was cool had this bountiful world of dmu behind them, like they farmed maybe 5 mins a day and got 100 quad dmu, no.
There were far less planets back then, app was worth jack all, untrained planets didn't produce income yadda yadda yadda. WE ALL still had to farm our butts off to get places, the only benefit was not so many people turned around and massed you (I suggest you don't NAP anyone btw, you will get LOADS more dmu).
Ya sure some people gotta to convert a load or two of APP when I changed the rates, but that didn't last long, I changed it.
The other thing people seem to be scared of when they are fresh and new is the fact that there are few actives in the high high ranks, and all the cool kids have a few bill planets, yeah so, you expect some immediate boost for nothing? Oh wait...you get life forcies.
'But soooooooool I feel like I should get more LF faster cuz I'm like bigger and small amounts don't affect me as much and I'm a cool kid'
You do get more, you get 1 trill per day max @ 20 bill planets which is common, at that rate you would surpass the 100 trill per 6 month cap (of the olden days), in a 100 days or about 14 weeks or 3.6 months, so you get nearly double the old rate. At about 10 bill planets, even commoner, it's around the 6 months, aka normal.
No difference except you only get in small portions so you don't turn obese.
'But soooooooool I'm in a war and I can't get that many planets because I actually build stats'
Do you even know what a war is kid? You expect to actually live a resourceful rich life in one?
'But sooooooooool there's a big number there that I can't do anything about and it hurts me deep inside'
There is also a button there that says convert to AT's, that guess what, will give you
unicorns At's, using up all your APP so you don't get hurt on the inside because there's a big number there that says you can't get it all.
'But Blue said things are impossible to catch up and he proved with calculations'
Ok, let's make a few assumptions to start things off:
- you start from 0 turns, you get the normal 11 per turn, in a week you get the 4k.
- Sure why not, you get 250 trill per hit, because you're not starving for dmu and you just happen to use all of your turns to farm with.
Tada you manage to farm 67 quad in that week, and farm another 67 quad in that second week. Sure you managed to gain the necessary APP to convert to turns, you convert to turns and you also farm the the 67 quad you get with that instantly because any more time wasted means more LF the alternate you gets from the conversion. So you managed to get 201 quad in total in 2 weeks.
Now here is the other you, we assume you hit the max lf per turn: You do nothing, you get 1 trill a day, 14 trill in 2 weeks so 140 quad overall.
You have stocked 4k turns from the first week netting you 67 quad, you stocked another 4k from the second week so you now have another 67 quad. You now have 274 quad in total for the 2 weeks.
Just for the kicks lets say you decide to go out and enjoy life for a week. You still have 7 quad more than the other alternate you and you farmed half as much as him/her.
Now I just hope you can follow my math.
So yes guys I've ignored this thread and I've ignored posts like this because no one has given me a persuasive argument yet, and I have spelled out this whole posts many times before.