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all i have to say is this...


Wriath + goauld = A living nightmare.....imagine striking fear into the population of ur slave by feeding on them and telling them u been honored a feast with a great SSL...heheheheh....imagine the super healing powers and personal shields.....

evil indeed

Long Live the goa'uld!!!!!

[B_WOLF][SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:all i have to say is this...


Wriath + goauld = A living nightmare.....imagine striking fear into the population of ur slave by feeding on them and telling them u been honored a feast with a great SSL...heheheheh....imagine the super healing powers and personal shields.....

Did a Replicator just compliment us? Sweet! Anyway, yeah that would be really awesome

CaPrIcA jb wrote:Long Live the goa'uld!!!!!

Random??? But... OK

I believe this fight would be closer then most of you give credit for, as the ancients admitted the wraith technology rivaled even their own. One wraith hive ship usually has 2-3 cruisers and hundreds and hundreds of darts. The size of a hive ship was about 15x the size of the deadalus. Meaning its at least 4-5x the size of a single ha'tak mothership. We've seen wraith on wraith and it took dozens of hits to bring a ship down I would tend to believe wraith energy cannons are stronger then goa'uld.

The real power behind the wraith is darts, they have way too many and as we know 1 ha'tak only has about 15-20 gliders and they aren't near as fast and manuverable as a darts. Wraith fleets managed to take out fleets of ancient warships so I wouldn't under-estimate them. What goa'uld have on wraith is Kull warriors, would make it nearly impossible for wraith to create any land domminace. I believe it would be one hell of a fight.

I just want to know one thing... if the Goa'uld are so much stronger than the Wraith, then why did the Goa'uld controlled Collective try to destroy Atlantis so the wraith couldn't find a way to get to our galaxy?

Seems like the Goa'uld fear the Wraith to me.

I think they tried to blow it up to piss of earth rather then stop the wraith from getting to earth since if thye got to earth they would eat the tau'ri and if the goa'uld knew that they would be happy even if they got there bums kicked in the process

Ethaniel wrote:I believe this fight would be closer then most of you give credit for, as the ancients admitted the wraith technology rivaled even their own. One wraith hive ship usually has 2-3 cruisers and hundreds and hundreds of darts. The size of a hive ship was about 15x the size of the deadalus. Meaning its at least 4-5x the size of a single ha'tak mothership. We've seen wraith on wraith and it took dozens of hits to bring a ship down I would tend to believe wraith energy cannons are stronger then goa'uld.

The real power behind the wraith is darts, they have way too many and as we know 1 ha'tak only has about 15-20 gliders and they aren't near as fast and manuverable as a darts. Wraith fleets managed to take out fleets of ancient warships so I wouldn't under-estimate them. What goa'uld have on wraith is Kull warriors, would make it nearly impossible for wraith to create any land domminace. I believe it would be one hell of a fight.

Actually, the goa'uld also have clocking tech. And the al'kesh with the energy-bomb thingy. Clocked ships can be a big advantage. Not to mention the much more advanced hyperdrives.

I just want to know one thing... if the Goa'uld are so much stronger than the Wraith, then why did the Goa'uld controlled Collective try to destroy Atlantis so the wraith couldn't find a way to get to our galaxy?

Seems like the Goa'uld fear the Wraith to me.

That's just recently, in the series when the System Lords had suffered greatly after Anubis, Replicators, and Tau'ri killing system lords and minor goa'ulds one by one. Also a few system lords rising to power and then be destroyed (f.x. Apophis)

The Goa'uld Empire at it's best would not have to fear the Wraith that much. The Goa'uld first of all had a much bigger fleet.

Heh, you need to check your numbers again then. The wraith have a lot more than you think.

Besides, all the wraith would have to do is fly a few darts over a huge army of the Goa'uld footsoldiers (jaffa + supersoldiers) and dematerialize them into their cargo hold... fight over. The wraith can even fly their darts through the gates, something the Goa'uld can't do.

The real battle would be Replicators VS Wraith. I'd love to see that one. Although they wouldn't have any reason to fight each other because neither has anything that the other really wants.

um the goa'uld ships out number the wraith all they have to do is bombard sleeping hives from the atmosphere and tada they win

Reeb wrote:Heh, you need to check your numbers again then. The wraith have a lot more than you think.

Besides, all the wraith would have to do is fly a few darts over a huge army of the Goa'uld footsoldiers (jaffa + supersoldiers) and dematerialize them into their cargo hold... fight over. The wraith can even fly their darts through the gates, something the Goa'uld can't do.

The real battle would be Replicators VS Wraith. I'd love to see that one. Although they wouldn't have any reason to fight each other because neither has anything that the other really wants.

Well, the total amount of hive ships are less then 100. The total amount of Ha'taks are as far as I know alot more then 100 (Goa'uld empire at it's best of course)

There is no need to talk about footsoldiers, the fleets would take care of this. The goa'uld can if they need to build great gliders that are built to fit through the gate. At the time they didn't have the need to build a fleet of those.

Goa'uld are also much more experienced at war, and have proven to be able to make super hosts. They could even use bio-weapons.

We also know for a fact that Goa'uld can build more ha'taks e.t.c.

It has been suggested that the Wraith can't build more ships, and we know they can only fix there ship a bit. Some parts they can't fix and others take time to heal. That's a big weakness.

Goa'uld also have so much to throw at them. Different types of ships, clocked ships, super ha-taks, Ha'taks firing at 'rapid'-fire mode, Anubis' flagship, different types of gliders, fleet of clocked Al'kesh. Kull warriors.

Etc. etc.

Heh, I think you underestimate the Wraith... each hive ship is as big or bigger than Anubis' super Hatak. Cruisers are bigger than Alkesh, not quite as big as a normal Hatak. BTW, who said wraith ships don't have shields? I seem to remember the daedalus not doing much to them, so they must have some sort of shielding technology.

You also forget the wraith can communicate on a much more advanced level than the Goa'uld can, and would be able to co-ordinate massive fleets much easier than the Goa'uld could.

No need for a ground war? I thought you guys said the ground war would be the Goa'uld's strong point?

Reeb wrote:Heh, I think you underestimate the Wraith... each hive ship is as big or bigger than Anubis' super Hatak. Cruisers are bigger than Alkesh, not quite as big as a normal Hatak. BTW, who said wraith ships don't have shields? I seem to remember the daedalus not doing much to them, so they must have some sort of shielding technology.

It's obvius by now they don't have shields. Specially since they have never had any need for them. Their hull is a strong one though. And you seam to think the bigger the better. I don't agree. The al'kesh are much more manuverable then wraith cruisers.

Reeb wrote:You also forget the wraith can communicate on a much more advanced level than the Goa'uld can, and would be able to co-ordinate massive fleets much easier than the Goa'uld could.

Yes. But their very slow hyperdrives e.t.c. would make it more difficault. The Goa'uld would just use the long range communication device. And I'm not underastimating them, IMO the goa'uld would loose massive amounts of ships and jaffa in a war like this. But I do belive they would win.

Reeb wrote:No need for a ground war? I thought you guys said the ground war would be the Goa'uld's strong point?

It would be a easier battle for the Goa'uld with the Kull warriors. But I don't see why there would be any massive ground battlers.

um the wraith are in civil war so they wouldn't be quick to call for help and they have no shields how else could a dart fly in combat at anotehr ship and fire on it how can 2 hiveships fire on one another without any shields showing up how can a puddle jumper fly into a hiveship during the siege of atlantis? I think it is you who overestimate the wraith

.:Osiris:. wrote:um the wraith are in civil war so they wouldn't be quick to call for help and they have no shields how else could a dart fly in combat at anotehr ship and fire on it how can 2 hiveships fire on one another without any shields showing up how can a puddle jumper fly into a hiveship during the siege of atlantis? I think it is you who overestimate the wraith

Yeah. Also with mostly organic ships it would be strange if they had any kind of shields. Nothing compared to tau'ri, repli, asgard or goa'uld shields at least.