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Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 9:18 am
by R'zul
there are always exceptions that make the rule. for example, nebulator. or someone who threatens your real life for ingame actions.
but its always so easy to slip. it starts with fighting againt multies, but its just so easy for it to degrade into "this guy really pissed me off" isnt it. its what has happened to the game atm.
so far everyone who has posted has agreed that its not a truly acceptable thing to do (quite reassuring). but it would be nice to hear from some of the people who actively use this tactic.
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 10:04 am
by Hells__Angel
Sigh, it is disgusting how people use this threat.
We shouldnt even be here talking about it, because it shouldnt happen.
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:51 am
by S T I
just4laughs wrote:S T I wrote:In some rare occasions it is needed such as mentioned cheaters/scammers etc & as a community you should all help to wipe out these people, not leave it to some like it was with Neb. if it had not been for players like ETL & a few of us he would have ruined the game.
Some would say that's what you have done.
Also, some players you would have to force to delete, eg, EtL, their very existence ingame gives allies a reason to fight for them,

this i find funny, seeing nearly all the messages i get say differant, players wanting to be just like me, A Player that has used all that is at hand to get to where they are now.
loads of players are coming through who have done this also, just a bit quicker, because of updates.
the game is about growth, to be able to war & carry on, I & many others have achieved this. So we are ruining the Game?
Ps & I have wared a LOT

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:03 pm
by Hensenshi
Bah, just face it S T I, Omega is powerful and people whine about us being powerful. Everything is our fault because we like to war in a war game.

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:11 pm
by Kit-Fox
meh sitting on someones account till they quit is quite mean, but then some people do things to deserve it. not just cheats/multis but sometimes you will encounter someone who you will just not click with on any level and just war with them all the time. of course each side in situations like that will usually be able fight back and so makes it a war of attrition till one quits. Not saying its right but somethings ppl do against you can be ignored forever, especially if they keep at it over & over everyday of your ingame life.
In response to ppl whining about Omega's power. yes they are powerful and being sat on by one of them hurts. However generally speaking most Omegans do seem to generally ok and will talk it out with you if your willing to try. Occasionally they go too far of course, but so does everyone else so lets not cast the first stone.
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:29 pm
by Mågiu§
I sit on planet thieves accounts so that I can catch their fleets. Originally my thought was deletion but not in the sense that it would make them leave the game. The idea about deletion to that kind of an account is so that the hangars get destroyed and they have to restart. I would like to see some type of update to planet thefts since all they have to do is take it and drop it and sell the fleets.
When I get massed, I will mass back and hit their officers as well since they provide a UP boost. Its a game and a war game at that. I will sit on the account until I get compensation for what was done to me. The goal is not deletion, but compensation. Its war tactic. This is a game.
The way the game is structured and what you are allowed to do with the game functions limit certain war strategies (i.e. targeting assassins, etc...). Just have to adapt and play within the limits of the game to get what you want.
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:30 am
by pianomutt20000
Lore wrote:Jenny. Rahl, and Bryan nailed it on the head.
It is even sometimes necessary, but shouldn't be use as a daily tactic. Many fewer people would receive that fate if they would walk away after a good massing instead of running to forums whinning and complaining and asking for help. Bill has proved this point many times. I can remember one guy who talked his way out of a massing from Bill and even got him to recommend him to his alliance mates as an officer.
Most of the time, I will relent even if I claim to sit on them until deletion.
But as long as they are rude, they are sat on. I have rarely stood by that threat, one of them being Dyneasty.
and at the time, i was very angry at him

But I will note that he still plays, and has become more active then ever.
Bill
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:35 am
by pianomutt20000
Myseri wrote:S T I wrote:In some rare occasions it is needed such as mentioned cheaters/scammers etc & as a community you should all help to wipe out these people, not leave it to some like it was with Neb. if it had not been for players like ETL & a few of us he would have ruined the game.
As for what KJ said, yes there are bullies, but then to have your revenge in the same way, is not the way. but I do understand.
I was none of the above but hey, I apparently was sat on till I deleted Dyneasty. Hensenshi, say that but you supported Bill sitting on me...
Wow...Feels like the elections all over again...
Cough, wondered when you would post hehehehehe.
Bill
One more, as a final note. I have only done it a few times. And all of them felt right at the time.
Dyneasty - The only long term sitting on i ever did. We are now on far better terms now then we were before. He also plays far more then he used to, and is much more aggressive
Aussieboy - Certain things said about one's wife will never be forgiven. Remember that.
I have even helped someone who threatened my life in RL to rebuild after an applogy, how many can say that
Bill
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:57 pm
by UBERN00B!
I wouldn't threaten deletion, but I managed to achieve it after receiving pms from someone who knew my officer from school. They massed my officer for fun, so I made the usual Commander demands. To my astonishment I was replied to wiith absolute barrels of abuse, including one that stated "I hope all your children are stillborn."
I found this uberoffensive so I did not let it go. Eventually he quit, then restarted. I had the pleasure of discovering that he was a multi in this new incarnation so he got himself deleted this time around.
Fair enough, no?
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:14 pm
by Myseri
pianomutt20000 wrote:Myseri wrote:S T I wrote:In some rare occasions it is needed such as mentioned cheaters/scammers etc & as a community you should all help to wipe out these people, not leave it to some like it was with Neb. if it had not been for players like ETL & a few of us he would have ruined the game.
As for what KJ said, yes there are bullies, but then to have your revenge in the same way, is not the way. but I do understand.
I was none of the above but hey, I apparently was sat on till I deleted Dyneasty. Hensenshi, say that but you supported Bill sitting on me...
Wow...Feels like the elections all over again...
Cough, wondered when you would post hehehehehe.

Bill
One more, as a final note. I have only done it a few times. And all of them felt right at the time.
Dyneasty - The only long term sitting on i ever did. We are now on far better terms now then we were before. He also plays far more then he used to, and is much more aggressive

Aussieboy - Certain things said about one's wife will never be forgiven. Remember that.
I have even helped someone who threatened my life in RL to rebuild after an applogy, how many can say that

Bill
It sitll comes to the point you over reacted, enough said
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:20 pm
by pianomutt20000
Myseri wrote:pianomutt20000 wrote:Myseri wrote:S T I wrote:In some rare occasions it is needed such as mentioned cheaters/scammers etc & as a community you should all help to wipe out these people, not leave it to some like it was with Neb. if it had not been for players like ETL & a few of us he would have ruined the game.
As for what KJ said, yes there are bullies, but then to have your revenge in the same way, is not the way. but I do understand.
I was none of the above but hey, I apparently was sat on till I deleted Dyneasty. Hensenshi, say that but you supported Bill sitting on me...
Wow...Feels like the elections all over again...
Cough, wondered when you would post hehehehehe.

Bill
One more, as a final note. I have only done it a few times. And all of them felt right at the time.
Dyneasty - The only long term sitting on i ever did. We are now on far better terms now then we were before. He also plays far more then he used to, and is much more aggressive

Aussieboy - Certain things said about one's wife will never be forgiven. Remember that.
I have even helped someone who threatened my life in RL to rebuild after an applogy, how many can say that

Bill
It sitll comes to the point you over reacted, enough said
You know what the worst thing about it is?

I lost an arch enemy.....Now who do i have to watch and plot on...NOBODY...
let this be a lesson, if you crush your enemy too much......you become friends and run out of people to plot on..
Bill
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:29 pm
by Hensenshi
Myseri wrote:S T I wrote:In some rare occasions it is needed such as mentioned cheaters/scammers etc & as a community you should all help to wipe out these people, not leave it to some like it was with Neb. if it had not been for players like ETL & a few of us he would have ruined the game.
As for what KJ said, yes there are bullies, but then to have your revenge in the same way, is not the way. but I do understand.
I was none of the above but hey, I apparently was sat on till I deleted Dyneasty. Hensenshi, say that but you supported Bill sitting on me...
Wow...Feels like the elections all over again...
Actually I didn't.

I massed your defense once with Bill, then your supers once on my own, but afterward I asked Bill multiple times to leave you alone. Infact I asked him to leave you alone a few times in between each massing too. The only reason I massed your supers once was because Bill paid me(I can be bought for some massing jobs =P).
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 2:35 pm
by bamse
I think sitting on someones account till they delete is a little harsh, unless they have really stepped over the line and been verbally abusive or threatened you or your family.
As for sucking up and brown nosing I hate it, I get sick to my stomach every time.
Re: sitting on somebodies account untill deletion
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:57 pm
by Bad Wolf
Lu tze wrote:if i cast my mind back to last year, there were alot of massings, and alot of wars. but i can only think of one case of someones account being sat on every turn with the sole intent of forcing them to leave, nebulator, and in this case a very good motive sat behind this.
it seems that trying to make another player delete their account has crept into commonly used tactics.
ill sit on your account till u delete
something i saw today in a thread after very little provocation. is that acceptable? this is a game open to anybody who obeys the rules. if a player is following the rules of the game, is it really a fair, honorable or acceptable thing to be doing?
this isnt meant as a whine, or an attack on anyone in specific. im just wanting to open up a discussion on whether this is now an acceptable part of the community?
It does worrie me where SGW is going, if someone cant play the game for fun in there spare time without 'Mr.Big' destorying them every turn.
BW
Posted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 7:01 pm
by Eternal Usul
Well...I must admit that even I have, on one or two occasions, caused someone to delete their account...
However...I never intended for that to happen...so I must say that I would never use it as a threat...
It's dishonorable to not give your enemy a fighting chance...
~SO SAYETH THE PEANUT GALLERY!!!!!~