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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:25 pm
by urogard
AEgidius wrote:From my calculations (and info I got) the things about UP planets cost is:

1) each click give u 1.1,1.2,1.3... etc per click (btw, your numers are starting in 1.0 Zeratul but the x100 quantities are right)
2) Each click add 5k naq to the cost
3) UP planets have a base cost of arround 7mil naq (calculated for UP=0). This number should be the randomness source

to confirm this I ask u to make this simple calculation and let us know the answer:

[currect upgrade cost] - { 5000 * [planet UP] / [planet size multip.] }

do u get something near 7mil?

NOTE: [planet size multip.] = 1.1 for tiny, 1.2 for very small, 1.3 for small, etc

I can only second those thoughts. with the difference i made them ages ago :D

Base IS indeed 7 mil +5k/upgrade

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 3:10 am
by kager
Thanks for the information and I have further questions.

So about a UP planet, does that mean it is better to add UP at higher planet multiplier?
0. Following the formula UP=(cost-7.01mil)/5000*multiplier
1. Assuming when the planet size increases the UP does not change.
2. Then the cost per upgrade of UP actually decreases because the multiplier is larger?
3. so the UP added also becomes larger at lower cost?

That sounds too good to be true.

So I guess it should be
0. the same formula rewritten as cost=UP/multiplier*5000+7.01mil
1. the cost before and after planet size upgrade is the same
2. UP jump a fraction determined by (new_mult/old_mult)
3. UP added becomes larger at the same cost.

In short you gain by having fewer "number of upgrades" (or "clicks") to reach the same UP, therefore the cost is lower.

I don't know if this is correct. Can someone tell me if I am wrong? Thanks!

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 4:09 am
by urogard
kager wrote:Thanks for the information and I have further questions.

So about a UP planet, does that mean it is better to add UP at higher planet multiplier?
0. Following the formula UP=(cost-7.01mil)/5000*multiplier
1. Assuming when the planet size increases the UP does not change.
2. Then the cost per upgrade of UP actually decreases because the multiplier is larger?
3. so the UP added also becomes larger at lower cost?

0: this formula is correct
1: The larger your planet size the more you get per upgrade because the multiplier is increased. But this also affects the upgrades previously bought retroactively, just like with every stat planet. So increasing size also increases total up without any extra upgrades.
2: yes and no. it is more correct to say the up increase is larger instead of saying the cost of upgrade is lower because you can't buy cheaper upgrades, but you do get larger up increases. It's more play on words what i did here but both statements, yours and mine, are basically correct. but mine is more accurate in terms of game mechanics
3: up added is LARGER at SAME cost


kager wrote:That sounds too good to be true.

So I guess it should be
0. the same formula rewritten as cost=UP/multiplier*5000+7.01mil
1. the cost before and after planet size upgrade is the same
2. UP jump a fraction determined by (new_mult/old_mult)
3. UP added becomes larger at the same cost.

In short you gain by having fewer "number of upgrades" (or "clicks") to reach the same UP, therefore the cost is lower.

I don't know if this is correct. Can someone tell me if I am wrong? Thanks!

0: it is indeed what you wrote
1: yes it is
2: hmm only if you compare up jump between planet with lower and [;anet with higher size
3: yes

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 2:30 am
by gooseman the first
tiny income is 38,400 per increase

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 3:47 am
by Zeratul
thanks & added...

Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 9:09 pm
by Irmeuru
I was wondering if anyone knew a range of base stats that the planets start with. To clarify - If I find a random tiny planet through exploration what would be the range of values that it might have as default. Also, what kinds of values could I expect from a planet that was created on the market. (I think this kind of information would be handy for an intermediate player who wants to know the value of newly discovered planets and whether or not it is worth investment...as much as a planet can be)

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 12:58 pm
by Liquidfoxx
Income upgrade for V. Small planet is confirmed @ 76,800 per upgrade.

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:42 pm
by Zeratul
first post updated...

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 4:13 pm
by Von Alric
Confirming for Covert planets: tiny - 905 096 and very small - 1 810 192.

Can also confirm the multiple amounts for UP planets at tiny, very small and small sizes. (I've been busy....)

Von Alric

Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:52 pm
by Zeratul
added all those...

only 20 left now...

Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 5:04 pm
by Aegidius
Confirming huge UP planets add 170 UP with 100 clicks.

and the forumula for calculation is working perfect.

Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 10:40 am
by Zeratul
updated once again...

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:42 pm
by Ash
Income plantes have been upgraded i know for certain that an Above average increase is 960,000.

So the others should be as follows

192000 - tiny
384000 - very small
576000 - small
768000 - normal
960000 - above average
1152000 - Large
1344000 - Huge
1536000 - Monsterous
1728000 - mind blowing :D

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:03 pm
by Zeratul
updated income amounts... needs verifying, though...

Re: planet upgrade amounts

Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 3:34 am
by Liquidfoxx
Normal Income planet - 768,000 increase CONFIRMED