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A good question...
Whilst not specifically addressed I fail to see why you wouldn't be able to Ascend whilst in Purgatory. although raiding for the purpose of rebuilding would be severely limited

Major Silent Bob wrote:

Funky White Boy [FAHQ] wrote:I have already spotted a major loophole in this idea because you can of course still get all your MTs every week whilst going in and out of pergatory.

3)Supporter Give functions (and the trade broker) do not work in Pergatory.
4)The market does not carry or accept raw resourcesin the Pergatory realm - no units, no naq, no turns.

you will get your 144 turns per day....that's it.

The whole purpose of Purgatory is to slow gameplay...ok so an alliance sends one player into purgatory to accumulate turns....he will accumulate a max of 4000 turns just like in main....
Alliance A tries to run from alliance B which declared war...is that one guy going to be able to mass and entire alliance with 4k turns ? and then have to wait 5 days before he can escape?

OK envision this! Someone with a 5 trillion defense and 118 million army gets massed by someone with a 30 million army (don't laugh, it happened) The guy with 30 million, sells off the mercs he didn't use in the massing and transfers enough units to enter Pergatory, which he can do immediately. The person who got massed cannot do anything to the guy because he cannot go into Pergatory. Five days later, the prick in Pergatory comes back, gets his turns and his units (and probably Naquadah) from his buddy and does it again. It's seriously flawed. Now, if Pergatory were a PERMANENT realm (once you go there, you cannot leave) that would be something completely different.

MY thoughts:

1. Purgatory = NoComment lets just see what happens

2. MS ...60% of it remains...its a step forward...will I ascend...? can you count to 5.0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
The same answer...you can but will you?

It is easy basically my MS is worth about 30 trills 60% of it remaining doesnt mean 60% of its value remaining since we know slots get more and more expensier

3. MS give absolutely NO bonus when you ascend...or at least slots dont...hance why would I ascend then? It is simple if you want to get ppl to ascend you need to "bribe" them meaning they must be eager to do it because it is worth it...if you dont do that many wont...but if that is the point...that only some will then I dont see a problem. But I have no intention of losing tens of trills just so I can get a bit of a boost up there which will anyway be DESTROYED when the first war arises. I think I ll wait for 100% MS remains part at least...if not the MS gives bonus also...if that will never happen...you will never see me ascend...I am just no kamikaze and have got to where I did in this game with making rational reather thenh unrational decisions

btw mojo doc3an had over 50 mils of units...sometimes you just cant see it and it was always there

good to see some people have a simlar views on this
if you dont like it dont use it
people said the same thing about raiding so just be quiet
it gives the game a new aspect that some of us get to play around with making it more enjoyable, etc

Personally for my account this is great as I have little time to play at the moment and I am quite happy to pop in and out of the pergatory realm but I do think there will be a new balance set up. It will make wars really difficult unless there is some sort of block to alliances just shifting themselves en block to pergatory if war is declared on them. Some sort of time limit prior to Pergatory such as already exists with Vacation Mode would be a good idea. You would take a day to get there perhaps allowing you to start going there immediately but a full day befor you get there.. Just a thought. This would stop major abuse.

Like any update let it settle in before ironing out any problems. Forum does listen. For instance Planets look very different now to when introduced..

Pop in and out of Pergatory?

It takes 5 days to get back in normal space.

[KGB] Jadzia wrote:Pop in and out of Pergatory?

It takes 5 days to get back in normal space.

5 days worth of ATs isnt it?

Agreed....for the time being let things be as they are...when issues arise then they'll be dealt with.....when it was first suggested the earth wasn't flat it was considered heresy by the church....change happens...people adapt

Shooting Star wrote:OK envision this! Someone with a 5 trillion defense and 118 million army gets massed by someone with a 30 million army (don't laugh, it happened) The guy with 30 million, sells off the mercs he didn't use in the massing and transfers enough units to enter Pergatory, which he can do immediately. The person who got massed cannot do anything to the guy because he cannot go into Pergatory. Five days later, the prick in Pergatory comes back, gets his turns and his units (and probably Naquadah) from his buddy and does it again. It's seriously flawed. Now, if Pergatory were a PERMANENT realm (once you go there, you cannot leave) that would be something completely different.

Ok...a valid if extreme example....I would assume the guy who was massed would be more than ready for the guy to come back out of Purgatory as I imagine would be all his friends

Turkey wrote:

[KGB] Jadzia wrote:Pop in and out of Pergatory?

It takes 5 days to get back in normal space.

5 days worth of ATs isnt it?

Yes.

Ever tried to get 5 days worth of AT's without market or broker? It takes, hey, five days.

Updates wrote:2)You cannot enter Pergatory with any turns. If you choose to realm shift into Pergatory, any turns you have will be automatically sold at market rates.
3)Supporter Give functions (and the trade broker) do not work in Pergatory.
4)The market does not carry or accept raw resourcesin the Pergatory realm - no units, no naq, no turns.

These three do the following:
1. Strips your ATs away. (fairly)
2. Eliminates the ability to accumulate turns by using multiple accounts working together (alliance trying to get out)
3. Limits AT acquisition to the natural accumulation of turns.

Then:

Updates wrote:6)While it is immediate to get into the Pergatory Realm, it will take 5 days of turns to return to normal reality.

This means, by deduction from the earlier, that it takes 5 days to get out of Pergatory.


That's what I meant, why I said it takes 5 days.

I LOVE this thing. It's designed as a fishtrap.
It's got WAY more permanence than Mojo suspects it to have...

and if you make any attacks during that 5 days....it takes longer to get out

Great update forum, not sure about the ms one but we shall see how it goes

Yeah, that's right. The relevance of that escapes me though...
I was kind of referring to Mojo's words about 'hiding' in Pergatory and all.
Anyways...


I wonder if you can *spy* the d00dz that are in there.


Oh, and I *love* the MS update... now when I FINALLY ascend, I'll *not* lose my big honkin' heap of spacescrap metal.

[KGB] Jadzia wrote:
I wonder if you can *spy* the d00dz that are in there.

since you can't click em I presume the answer is no

when you go to the attack page you should be able to click a link to find all the people in pergetory or the main cause right now there are vary few who are in it and it takes forever to find a person that is in it.

for example

rankings commander rankings alliance rankings rankings by relations pergetory realm main realm

TBH i hate it :/




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