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It is fine for teh caps to rise, however if they rise then so should the penalties. I.E. when you reach 200Mill army size the -UP should be a lot higher than 100K.

-Neph

What Dean said is correct, when the caps were brought in I had the highest army size 130+mil, I of loaded 30 mil straight away, because i was working with other people & it was better to give them the uu i would be losing each turn.

Now i have ascended for the last time (or they change something that will require me to ascend again) i have put the plan that was always my goal in place.

what the caps have done is only slow me up, now it si slowing the others up, so what is the point, are we slowing people up so the ones behind can catch up & so on.

As for the massing bit, yes he is quite right, the bigger players can be attacked, but if they strike back it is far slower to recover than say a person below 50 mil (buying & raiding).

ie account with 45mil army size, can smash any larger account, but will lose a lot less because they need less defence/covert when hit back. there income is less so waste of time farming, when you can be farmed back for much more.

so yes i think the caps should be raised

geisha wrote:

[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:In this game i see no difference between removing the caps or raising the caps cause in the end it only helps the bigger players...why cuase the small players wouldnt even feel the effect of the cap raised until they gotten to very very large size...hell if they raised the cap right now i would feel a immediate effect of the goodness of growing again and not always raiding'

i say leave the caps on

The smaller guys have been benefiting from the caps as they are. It slowed down the bigger players growth a lot and you must admit that many people have been catching up while those who were already at the limit have been bored for almost a year now. So if the caps stay as they are it won't take long till almost everyone who is actively playing the game has a 75-100 mill army... and that would be boring.

If the game is supposed to be fair for everyone the caps need to be raised instead of protecting the smaller guys all the time and screwing over those who have been putting a lot of work into their accounts and would like to continue with it.

it is true that the caps have slowed down the bigger players ill admit that cause i use to be small and now its my turn to feel the caps effects, just means i have to put in more hard work, which is no problem to me

Screwing over the big players? not once i did not feel screwed over i mean
sure the caps are there but u think thats going to stop anyone from plowing over them not one bit, sure it takes hard work and all but what doesn't take hard work in anything, i mean i dont want to play this game where everything lands in front of me on a golden platter

why is it boring because will this is what i see all the high authority well known ppl have made friends with other high authority ppl so they don't hit each other what i mean by high authority is High council members, Mods, War chiefs, etc..., they create there own special group where no one even bothers bothering them in game.

give it some time before more more and more players are getting bigger and not in this special club it make the game that much more interesting


cause i garentee u that once im a certain size im going to cause problems

I believe that in order to assist the lower ranked players to catch up, a one time free purchase of 1 million lifers should be available to all accounts. So that players starting off can start with a decent army size and not be held up building right from 0. This will also help push the people in the low millions ahead faster.

AND ruin the game. 2 birds with one stone, marvellous.

Things are fine how they are just leave them be... more important things to take care of atm, like alliance thingys.

I got to agree with whoever said get their UP upto 1 mil, I mean if I was making 10 billion a turn I know where I would be putting it..

And dean why don't ya start helping n00b's catch up to ya

you cant increase the cap.

i mean i was absent so long..

if i am at 100 mill we can talk again but even then i think the cap is good.
after all i allways loved up

Krahe wrote:I believe that in order to assist the lower ranked players to catch up, a one time free purchase of 1 million lifers should be available to all accounts. So that players starting off can start with a decent army size and not be held up building right from 0. This will also help push the people in the low millions ahead faster.

I agree with this 100%... Will also put more naq out there... make the game more lively, have it available to all players though...

To grow from 0 - 1 mil takes a **Filtered** of effort.
To grow from 20 - 21 mil takes no effort.

Lord_Zeus wrote:

Krahe wrote:I believe that in order to assist the lower ranked players to catch up, a one time free purchase of 1 million lifers should be available to all accounts. So that players starting off can start with a decent army size and not be held up building right from 0. This will also help push the people in the low millions ahead faster.

I agree with this 100%... Will also put more naq out there... make the game more lively, have it available to all players though...

To grow from 0 - 1 mil takes a **Filtered** of effort.
To grow from 20 - 21 mil takes no effort.

and it should do, everyone else had to and that was before raiding for alot, myself included

but as for the issue I had some free time and I just throught I post these
over 50M army size = 82 people
between 40-50M army size = over 150 people
and more than 200 over the 30M army size
these was up to the top 10K ranking

atm the cap size are fine but I think over the next 4-6months it will need to be rised 25M each as over 300-400 well be at them, and it was to give these the chance to catch up, and they have, raiding atm is very profitable for alot and and it not hard to raid 3-4M uu per week now

Dean_S wrote:

~Phoenix~ wrote:Well if corky didnt spend lots of dollars on uu he wouldnt of been there so quick

I dont actually mind the caps.. i quite like them. there is no end to UU anyway, because we can just move over the 100mil limit like STI for one has done. If everyone else did it too then there would be no problem.

say STI massed me costing him 3mill uu to repair his supers...how would he able get them back.....

just because admin is thinking about making $$$$...if new players think they can catch up because there is caps...they will buy SS/USS, meaning admin is making more $$'s, where as he is making the game boring for older players.

also, ever since i went over the 75mill limit i havnt massed as many people as i used to because i no ill have to wait for UP which takes to long!!!!

since you have a nice income and all, why don't you just get a 1m+ UP...
it might take a while but you'll enjoy it.

here's a trick, get 1mil raw up. then you dont have to worry about taking ages to recover from losses

gooseman the first wrote:here's a trick, get 1mil raw up. then you dont have to worry about taking ages to recover from losses

yeah heres a smartie, why dont we ALL get our raws to 1 mil, it would take just....errrr...2000 days or 5,4 years for those who are below 75 and 1200 days for STI to get it to 1 mil, calculated from 100k raw to 1 mil.

also, i think we should increase the cap, for like 25 mil or 50 mil.

well if you have 25 officers with 100k UP, you'll get 500k additional UP but the problem is, where do you get them...

It's a start.

Lajh wrote:

gooseman the first wrote:here's a trick, get 1mil raw up. then you dont have to worry about taking ages to recover from losses

yeah heres a smartie, why dont we ALL get our raws to 1 mil, it would take just....errrr...2000 days or 5,4 years for those who are below 75 and 1200 days for STI to get it to 1 mil, calculated from 100k raw to 1 mil.

also, i think we should increase the cap, for like 25 mil or 50 mil.

Lajh are you finding how expencive it is to up your up, when you get to 200k its 1bil+ per upgrade. so forget about 1 mil up

yes, its fine for the people below the 75mil, but what dean was saying what about the people above, there are only so many options & most are boring

so is this what the future holds when you have worked so hard to get to this size

~Phoenix~ wrote:

Chris M wrote:

geisha wrote:it's not about removing them... it's more about raising them which would make perfect sense because the average army sizes ARE bigger now so it's kind of silly to keep the cap at the same level...

I would have to agree with Geisha

No. Average sizes are bigger because a lot of guys dont try to get past the caps which is EASY!!!!

It really is easy. If people catch up to them its their own damn fault for not playing the game properly and trying to stay under the limits.

They are fine, they dont need to be raised AT ALL. If poeple want tog et army siezes bigger they can get off their assess and do it

geisha wrote:

[SGC_ReplicÅtors] wrote:In this game i see no difference between removing the caps or raising the caps cause in the end it only helps the bigger players...why cuase the small players wouldnt even feel the effect of the cap raised until they gotten to very very large size...hell if they raised the cap right now i would feel a immediate effect of the goodness of growing again and not always raiding'



i say leave the caps on

The smaller guys have been benefiting from the caps as they are. It slowed down the bigger players growth a lot and you must admit that many people have been catching up while those who were already at the limit have been bored for almost a year now. So if the caps stay as they are it won't take long till almost everyone who is actively playing the game has a 75-100 mill army... and that would be boring.

If the game is supposed to be fair for everyone the caps need to be raised instead of protecting the smaller guys all the time and screwing over those who have been putting a lot of work into their accounts and would like to continue with it.

Wrong again. If they ahd moved over the caps instead of WAITING they would still be ahead, and no1 else would catch them quicker because they dhave to go thru the same thing.

They still wouldnt be caught if they had done it properly.

You cant base this update on peoples desisions geisha just because they made the wrong ones.

~Phoenix~ wrote:AND ruin the game. 2 birds with one stone, marvellous.

Things are fine how they are just leave them be... more important things to take care of atm, like alliance thingys.

Phoenix I agree with almost of your posts concerning updates and suggests, that's amazing !!!

And seriously the whiner(s) about the cap make me laugh, you have 75mil army, why dont you go up as S T I, Dean_S or any other person above 80mil?


I say when like 25 people reach 100mil army limit we up it to 125 or 150mil