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Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:20 pm**

Nuto vixen wrote:Seriously, guys, go outside and breathe in some fresh air.

This whole thing is just getting way over the top.

Walking in circles will not get anyone very far.

I was going to suggest some vigorous **Filtered** but I suppose fresh air *might* work too and is probably less likely to offend someone.

Oh... oops? :oops:

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:23 pm**

It is funny that the same people that are saying to calm down now are the same one with so much to say before.

I am perfectly calm.

El TC wrote:I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:27 pm**

rude!

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:31 pm**

lol

what is the point of this

your fighting with the mods

the mods dont even like each other let alone the community seems to dislike them all

more and more each day

its all rather pointless these argugements get edited deleted locked what ver it is the mod wants the mod gets.. all in all its all losing battle..

some mods are ok but most hide behind there mod status or "Leak" information or whatever its a large reason many former mods left and now seem to be against the current mods...

this is your community your forum .. stop acting like prision guards and respect your community you all got drunk with power and cant see beyond your own face anymore... if you dont why dont you search all post by yourself and look at your attitudes prior to being a mod and now while your are one.. a complete 180....

you guys are wrong for hiding and covering and misleading the community ... own up to it and face it we all make mistakes.. but remember all you are is a mod.. on a forum if you get massed cause you act big and bad behind your colored mod voice dont cry cause you got massed.. cause you would have regardless of you were forum himself...

if your a mod your always a mod not just when it suits you..

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:41 pm**

REK wrote:...you guys are wrong for hiding and covering and misleading the community ... own up to it and face it we all make mistakes..

I know we talked in pm, but as this thread is addressed to me, and some people may think you are developing this thread further along the line it already has been.

I must say that I have never mislead the community, and this thread is beginning to give evidence for that.

Additionally, posting again give me another opportunity to quote EL TC! :lol:

El TC wrote:I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:45 pm**

I said guys... if your are more than one person then..... :shock:

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:47 pm**

REK wrote:I said guys... if your are more than one person then.....

hehe

"only my mind limits me" - Spacey

El TC wrote:I have just received more information and I must admit I was wrong. The quoted convo I used and is available on the forum seems to be manipulated and is missing vital lines to give a complete picture.

I appologize to Teal'auc.

However, Batzy's comments about deceiving the community cannot and will not be ignored.

Posted: **Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:02 pm**

I didn't say you were in that meeting, what I said was:

[19:57] <adminHere> if someone gives me a list of mod game IDs (global only? ) i will see what can be done --lets leave that for next week
[19:58] <Tealauc> Well, jason, if you want to give something to mods... then give it to all mod team or not at all...

Spacey: How about a planet? We get one planet each? Our ID's we won't be singled out, and people could really be none the wiser (we could have bought it or used MT's

These are two different quotes, first one from a convo where I admitted that I was wrong about my conclusions because certain lines were missing and the quote was therefore misleading. I appologized to Teal'auc only because in the quote she was portrait in a bad light because the last line of that convo is missing where she states that she wants NO INGAME BENEFITS AT ALL. Here is one of the missing lines from that convo:

[19:58] <Tealauc> tho i think we should not have benefits in game at all

Second quote was from a post you made when discussions were going on about which resource to receive, MT's or planets etc. You suggested planets as an option since the community would be none the wiser about where you got them from with someone checking your ID's etc. Yes, ID's, planets, MT's, it doesn't matter what you were referring to, you said we, the community wouldn't notice anyways so why not planets then?

I didn't lock the topic. It was locked prior. The post before mine is dated "09 Sep 2007 16:02", and today is the 13th. If it had still been open there would not have been that lull in posts.

That's my point. Topics get locked and then mods/admins post replies on them again because they are the only ones that can. That is why I made this thread. You cannot lock a topic and make a final, summarize-all-according-to-you post so the last opinion is yours, that is abusing mod privileges. If it is locked it is locked and you cannot reply, no matter who you are, especially if you are involved.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 4:22 am**

El TC wrote:Second quote was from a post you made when discussions were going on about which resource to receive, MT's or planets etc. You suggested planets as an option since the community would be none the wiser about where you got them from with someone checking your ID's etc. Yes, ID's, planets, MT's, it doesn't matter what you were referring to, you said we, the community wouldn't notice anyways so why not planets then?

I didn't lock the topic. It was locked prior. The post before mine is dated "09 Sep 2007 16:02", and today is the 13th. If it had still been open there would not have been that lull in posts.

That's my point. Topics get locked and then mods/admins post replies on them again because they are the only ones that can. That is why I made this thread. You cannot lock a topic and make a final, summarize-all-according-to-you post so the last opinion is yours, that is abusing mod privileges. If it is locked it is locked and you cannot reply, no matter who you are, especially if you are involved.

The first parts of your posts don't really deal with me (not an issue here) so I omitted them.

When I said 'none the wiser' it's wasn't meant to be that the community would notice the added planet. It was that for those mods who wished to keep their identity secret in game could. I was talking about IDs, I was not talking about pulling the wool over the users eyes. If there was something to be given out, then that was an option to help protect some of those IDs.

I never thought that the community wouldn't notice. Never did I think that nor do I think any of the mods did. Case in point: I said that those planets could have been bought (naq) or mt's used as examples of way that someone could have acquired the planets, ie. what I, a player, would think looking at accounts). If I thought the community wouldn't have noticed the planet I would not have listed examples of ways that they could be acquired.

People couldn't really distinguish between mod account and users account before the name tag change, and mod are attacked/threatened for modding. It is becoming a necessary precaution to protect your ID if you are a mod.

Frankly, I find it amazing that some many members of the community are ok with getting a screenshot of one post from some users here, but don't ever think to ask them for the posts that appeared before it. It's like starting a book on page 10 and expecting to know what happened in the past 9 pages. Why don't you get screenshots of the post before mine to see what we were talking about? You're judging mods again without the whole picture.

El TC wrote:That's my point. Topics get locked and then mods/admins post replies on them again because they are the only ones that can. That is why I made this thread. You cannot lock a topic and make a final, summarize-all-according-to-you post so the last opinion is yours, that is abusing mod privileges. If it is locked it is locked and you cannot reply, no matter who you are, especially if you are involved.

Abusing my moding privileges? Did you read my post?

In that one paragraph above you state (pertaining to me):
- I locked a topic to make it final
- I summarized an 'all according to me' post so the last opinion is mine

This is what I said at the bottom.

Spacey wrote:If you do wish to 'rant' this further, please send a pm or create a thread with my name in it in this section.

Kevin
(Spacey)

Again, I did not lock that topic.

No where did I say that what I said what the 'end all' to this discussion. Never did I imply that or want that. I direct people where to go if they wish to discuss it. The oly reason I posted there was because my words were twisted in that thread.

The topic was locked before this section was created (post before mine), and was commented on both a supermod and game Jason. I'm not going to go against their mod action by reopening it, and I did recognize that there would still be discussion about it and suggested for people to pm me or create a thread here.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:21 am**

...but don't ever think to ask them for the posts that appeared before it. It's like starting a book on page 10 and expecting to know what happened in the past 9 pages....

I am asking for the posts that appeared before it from you.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 7:43 am**

Come on now... :-)

post the whole paragraph...

Frankly, I find it amazing that some many members of the community are ok with getting a screenshot of one post from some users here, but don't ever think to ask them for the posts that appeared before it. It's like starting a book on page 10 and expecting to know what happened in the past 9 pages. Why don't you get screenshots of the post before mine to see what we were talking about? You're judging mods again without the whole picture.

The person who took the screenshot of what I typed can provide them, can't s/he? Why would they only take a screen capture of one post and not any others? The person/people who provided those widely circulated *.jpegs should let you see them.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:10 am**

Maybe I will...

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:43 am**

I have seen the one side of things and now I am asking you to show all of us the other side you claim will change all our minds. You are saying there is more before and after what you posted so show it to us or what, we just supposed to believe you?

There is two sides to every story, we have seen one and you claim it is wrong but fail to provide the evidence.

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:45 am**

maybe I wont...........

Posted: **Fri Sep 14, 2007 8:51 am**

El TC wrote:I have seen the one side of things and now I am asking you to show all of us the other side you claim will change all our minds. You are saying there is more before and after what you posted so show it to us or what, we just supposed to believe you?

There is two sides to every story, we have seen one and you claim it is wrong but fail to provide the evidence.

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