Page 4 of 4

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:34 pm
by Dimebag Borgir
you know, not that i'd use it, EVER, but the way it's been talked about, i just feel left out and i want to know how they were doing it.
i guess even though it's now apparently fixed, it shouldn't be let out how they were doing this in case it re-appears in the future, right?.....


oh well, it's really *cough* bugging me, not knowing, lol :lol: ....terrible pun

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:38 am
by purga
i hate cheaters. it would be good, if admin would check who were abusing the bug and would IP banned them all. the damage has been done and those idiots didnt get any punishment

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 7:26 am
by Lore
purga wrote:i hate cheaters. it would be good, if admin would check who were abusing the bug and would IP banned them all. the damage has been done and those idiots didnt get any punishment



IP banns are not the answer. I know of instances where 15 to 20 people are in the same ip so banning them all only hurts the game.

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:05 pm
by Richard_Destroyer
Well IP banning is really not the answer for anyone in Australia as we don't have a static IP address our main IPT telstra uses DHCP (AKA hands a different ip each time the modem connects for cheaters they can just keep reseting there modem.)

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:56 pm
by purga
so they are getting away unpunished. this sucks. what about if admin would reset their accounts

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 4:40 am
by S T I
S T I wrote:I will now tell you a story, i will not mention names, as it is not right because i can not prove anything, it is up to admin to prove this.

Well over a year ago, before the CIA war i was made aware, by way of info recieved, of a possible bug being used. I was given a few facts, some name's & how it was being done to a certain degree.

This use of a bug, only confirmed what alot of us in the game had beeen thinking, things were being done that should not be happening.

so i put my feelers out to gather more info, what i was getting back over the next few weeks was all the same, naq/uu were being created, satilite accounts were formed & these accounts were used to carry out these actions further. The uu that was either bought from created naq or created straight was then sent to random inactive acounts & raided, but they were sent to lots, so it looked like normal raiding but with v/high returns.

Most of you can work out what was going on, weapons, bigger defences, fleets, ms, etc etc

Now the who, all my info pointed to two alliance's, which was backed up by massive stats increase in both (but by only certain members).But i will say that over the time period i am talking about people in these alliance surly would have become suspicious?

All this info i passed on to senior mods & admin as i got more. But i was unable to work out how it was being done. I had the mechanics, but could not get it to work, until yesterday.

Admin i surpose never found anything or dismissed it because i could not show how it was being done & having found out the how, i can properly understand.

I have also been told that ascension has been corrupted by this bug, what i have been told is that double ascensions have been done, ie 2 ascensions done for the price of one, twice the points half the losses, twice the bonus's etc. I can not check out this because i am not going to ascend but by how the bug works i fully expect this will be found to be the case.

To further add to what i was finding out, many would not see this because only a certain amount of people would understand, is this.

Coming up to & since my first becoming aware of this bug, i was becoming aware & so were others of people selling alot of naq/uu for very cheap prices. one instance price of naq was $30 per trill, but in a convo, i was tolf that they were getting their naq for $10 & loads of it, well i can understand $25 or even $20 (but that would have been a crazy price) but $10 din't make sence. (yes i asked for names, but was told the person selling had told them not to tell anyone).I have had many such convo's since

I asked around all the big naq producer's, no one was or would sell for that amount, they could not keep up with the demand. being one of the largets producers i have to fully agree.

This points to again only one answer added to this the ones selling uu & naq never lost their army size.

since i told people about my find yesterday, i find it strange that i got a message from a player, shall we just say it said tick tock, when i asked what they meant by this, i got no answer?


but don't you find it strange that i recieve a message like this on the day i discover this bug & tell people about it :lol:

now i know that this may smear some inncent people & fingers will be pointed, but i feel it needs to go into the forums now.


Update to this Bug


it got fixed in may of this year.

but by this time the hole was to deep i guess, sold naq/uu etc,$$ sales being the biggie, where would you stop.

but hundreds of feeder accounts were banned.

so all your questions of how can accounts sell vast amounts of naq/uu but not change size.

how can people be farming so much at's wise but never seem to be buying at's or how can they be farming so much but be working/studying etc or how can there be multi attacks on accounts at the same time from same accounts (ie accounts being operated by multi players) after being built up.

Then ask yourselves have things changed with these accounts since june, is there being less being sold, is there less attacks from certain accounts.

now ask yourself why afer i posed all this did i have certain people trying to get me banned :lol:

even to the extent of sending my pm's to forum, :lol: these pm's only confimed to forum what i told him what i knew about what had happened to my account.

so
Brdavs wrote:
MEZZANINE wrote:ps Does anyone really thing Jeff would sell to a cheater given his previous efforts to expose and prevent the methods cheaters were using ?


No offense to anyone but that there is LOL on sooo many levels hehe... like 3, 4 good jokes in there.
:D

laugh all you want

making out your all that, you can make sly remarks, just about sums you up :(

all that has been done, no one can say they didn't know or if they didn't they just buried their heads.

now here's a pm from a leading player in your alliance :lol:

Hey. I\'ve noticed that you\'ve been inactive recently, so i was wondering if you could \'\'sell\'\' me your ascended account for 2 months. I won\'t change password or email and i won\'t attack(harm) anyone from your account. I need it mainly to bank as often possible and mybe to train some spys when farming (to see people\'s DMU as i got assasinated and don\'t have enough planets to do it myself)

first time i have ever posted a pm without permission btw

jeff
(glad i am out of all this, just look at all the s### since i left)concerning my account.

btw i have been told old accounts are being brought back & new ones set up to revive these shortages in AT's, etc :lol:

Re: A Bug which has been used for over a year

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 8:03 am
by Demonfox
Suttles.......