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MaxSterling wrote: Duh... I think I know that...

If you don't want help, why post?

Sarevok wrote:

MaxSterling wrote: Duh... I think I know that...

If you don't want help, why post?

In what possible way can you stating something that I already am fully aware of, help? And in what possible way can you stating the obvious, help? You said nothing to help and you are not the person that CAN help, so why bother posting in response to me?

Sometimes it's probably best if you don't comment on everything I say unless you're saying you have the same issue.

Perhaps to draw out more information than "This is bugged"?

And perhaps you weren't fully aware, and I was making sure you did know.

Like, were there platforms involves, were they online, did the fluctuation in platform/natural/fleet power cause a certain threshold to be passed, causing more damage, were your fleets always fully repaired or were you strong enough to only repair every 2-3 hits etc.

MaxSterling wrote:

Sarevok wrote:It varies dependant on fleet power. And fleet power varies within 90 and 102%.

Duh... I think I know that...

This is bugged...
[spoiler]Jul 23, 21:42 x K3 conquered 15 61,836 0 194,208,000,000 179,942,760,000 details
Jul 23, 21:42 x Attack defended 15 6,608 0 198,254,000,000 199,172,040,000 details
Jul 23, 21:42 x Attack defended 15 6,338 0 190,162,000,000 215,372,160,000 details
Jul 23, 21:41 x Attack defended 15 6,069 0 182,070,000,000 218,297,700,000 details
Jul 23, 21:41 x Attack defended 15 6,675 0 200,277,000,000 257,326,440,000 details
Jul 23, 21:41 x Attack defended 15 6,271 0 188,139,000,000 258,879,720,000 details
Jul 23, 21:41 x Attack defended 15 13,756 0 206,346,000,000 288,776,070,000 details
Jul 23, 21:41 x Attack defended 15 6,203 0 186,116,000,000 291,683,880,000 details
Jul 23, 21:40 x Attack defended 15 13,620 0 204,323,000,000 302,437,590,000 details
Jul 23, 21:40 x Attack defended 15 12,542 0 188,139,000,000 353,449,500,000 details
Jul 23, 21:40 x Attack defended 15 13,350 0 200,277,000,000 370,500,000,000 details
Jul 22, 13:38 x K1 conquered 15 63,185 0 182,070,000,000 180,077,250,000 details
Jul 22, 13:38 x Attack defended 15 5,680 0 170,401,262,500 185,935,500,000 details
Jul 22, 13:38 x Attack defended 15 12,138 0 182,070,000,000 229,298,040,000 details
Jul 22, 13:38 x Attack defended 15 11,428 0 171,423,735,000 244,363,440,000 details
Jul 22, 13:38 x Attack defended 15 6,338 0 190,162,000,000 255,738,840,000 details
Jul 22, 13:35 x Attack defended 15 6,473 0 194,208,000,000 280,377,000,000 details
Jul 22, 13:34 x Attack defended 15 6,541 0 196,231,000,000 273,000,000,000 details[/spoiler]

I believe it's related to platforms, may be a bug though. I checked my logs and can confirm what you were talking about, knew that it showed double for platforms but wasn't aware it showed them after it was "down".
[spoiler]Jul 18, 19:09 * Planet conquered 15 40,774 0 117,183,720,000 110,089,800,000 details
Jul 18, 19:09 * Attack defended 15 4,284 0 128,524,080,000 132,470,520,000 details
Jul 18, 19:08 * Attack defended 15 4,074 0 122,223,880,000 138,552,240,000 details
Jul 18, 19:08 * Attack defended 15 4,032 0 120,963,840,000 159,492,000,000 details
Jul 18, 19:08 * Attack defended 15 7,980 0 119,703,800,000 174,891,240,000 details
Jul 18, 19:08 * Attack defended 15 4,158 0 124,743,960,000 178,417,920,000 details
Jul 18, 19:07 * Attack defended 15 3,864 0 115,923,680,000 181,841,040,000 details
Jul 18, 19:07 * Attack defended 15 7,644 0 114,663,640,000 209,063,940,000 details
Jul 18, 19:07 * Attack defended 15 4,200 0 126,004,000,000 213,006,180,000 details
Jul 18, 19:06 * Attack defended 15 4,116 0 123,483,920,000 229,622,580,000 details
Jul 18, 19:06 * Attack defended 15 4,242 0 127,264,040,000 242,221,320,000 details
Jul 18, 19:05 * Attack defended 15 4,158 0 124,743,960,000 239,142,060,000 details
Jul 18, 19:04 * Attack defended 15 3,906 0 117,183,720,000 244,662,600,000 details
Jul 18, 19:04 * Attack defended 15 4,116 0 123,483,920,000 278,395,920,000 details
Jul 18, 19:04 * Attack defended 15 4,242 0 127,264,040,000 264,540,600,000 details
Jul 18, 19:03 * Attack defended 15 7,728 0 115,923,680,000 303,463,260,000 details
Jul 18, 19:03 * Attack defended 15 3,780 0 113,403,600,000 281,056,230,000 details
Jul 18, 19:03 * Attack defended 15 3,948 0 118,443,760,000 301,455,180,000 details
Jul 18, 19:03 * Attack defended 15 4,074 0 122,223,880,000 316,273,050,000 details
Jul 18, 19:02 * Attack defended 15 3,864 0 115,923,680,000 323,840,340,000 details
Jul 18, 19:02 * Attack defended 15 3,948 0 118,443,760,000 349,227,900,000 details
Jul 18, 19:02 * Attack defended 15 4,158 0 124,743,960,000 350,387,550,000 details
Jul 18, 19:01 * Attack defended 15 8,400 0 126,004,000,000 373,323,060,000 details
Jul 18, 19:01 * Attack defended 15 8,232 0 123,483,920,000 385,298,100,000 details
Jul 18, 19:01 * Attack defended 15 8,400 0 126,004,000,000 403,050,000,000 details
Jul 18, 19:00 * Attack defended 15 4,284 0 128,524,080,000 374,311,800,000 details
Jul 18, 19:00 * Attack defended 15 7,560 0 113,403,600,000 396,983,520,000 details
Jul 18, 19:00 * Attack defended 15 7,812 0 117,183,720,000 416,772,600,000 details
Jul 18, 19:00 * Attack defended 15 7,728 0 115,923,680,000 414,507,840,000 details
Jul 18, 18:59 * Attack defended 15 7,560 0 113,403,600,000 429,208,020,000 details
Jul 18, 18:59 * Attack defended 15 7,812 0 117,183,720,000 430,641,120,000 details
Jul 18, 18:58 * Attack defended 15 7,812 0 117,183,720,000 464,705,280,000 details
Jul 18, 18:58 * Attack defended 15 8,400 0 126,004,000,000 477,285,120,000 details
Jul 18, 18:57 * Attack defended 15 8,064 0 120,963,840,000 493,867,740,000 details
Jul 18, 18:57 * Attack defended 15 8,148 0 122,223,880,000 500,388,480,000 details
Jul 18, 18:57 * Attack defended 15 8,232 0 123,483,920,000 485,104,620,000 details
Jul 18, 18:56 * Attack defended 15 8,568 0 128,524,080,000 552,793,200,000 details
Jul 18, 18:56 * Attack defended 15 7,644 0 114,663,640,000 535,950,720,000 details
Jul 18, 18:56 * Attack defended 15 7,980 0 119,703,800,000 540,901,500,000 details
Jul 18, 18:55 * Attack defended 15 8,568 0 128,524,080,000 553,418,820,000 details[/spoiler]
Initial Natural Defense:
127227 planet ground based defence facilities.
Whenever it was doubled for mine, it only took platform defenses, whenever it wasn't doubled, it took the natural defenses and the amount shown was updated. This may be due to the platform not getting destroyed unless the planet is taken or that they are both massed down at same time, not really sure. Would be nice to hear admin's take on what is happening.

3 Consecutive Logs showing Example:
[spoiler]http://gatewars.com/battlelog.php?id=118317297&isview=1

BMMJ13 sent:
109,000 Enhanced Networked Glider Squadron

X's planet resisted the aggressors with:
102951 planet ground based defence facilities.


In a fury, the two opposing forces clash!


The forces of BMMJ13 rush in full force, and inflict 113,403,600,000 damage on X's forces!


The artillery of X fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 281,056,230,000 damage on BMMJ13's fleets!
It was confirmed that The defences of the planet held up under attack!
3780 defence facilities, though, in the course of the battle.

Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 89,815. This amount is directly related to the fire power on the planet.

http://gatewars.com/battlelog.php?id=118317299&isview=1

BMMJ13 sent:
109,000 Enhanced Networked Glider Squadron

X's planet resisted the aggressors with:
99171 planet ground based defence facilities.


In a fury, the two opposing forces clash!


The forces of BMMJ13 rush in full force, and inflict 115,923,680,000 damage on X's forces!

The artillery of X fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 303,463,260,000 damage on BMMJ13's fleets!
It was confirmed that The defences of the planet held up under attack!
You note, though, that from nowhere, or at least not from the planet itself, you were being assulted!!
Almost like some sort of mobile planetary defences, seemingly invisible...
While it is hard to say, you think this invisible force added around maybe some percent of the natural planetary defences to the defence you encountered...Of course you turned your attention to where the attack was coming from, before moving onto the planet itself...there was enough damage to destroy 7728 defence facilities, though, in the course of the battle.

Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 87,759. This amount is directly related to the fire power on the planet.

http://gatewars.com/battlelog.php?id=118317308&isview=1

BMMJ13 sent:
109,000 Enhanced Networked Glider Squadron

X's planet resisted the aggressors with:
97978 planet ground based defence facilities.


In a fury, the two opposing forces clash!


The forces of BMMJ13 rush in full force, and inflict 127,264,040,000 damage on X's forces!


The artillery of X fought back with all they could, and managed to inflict 264,540,600,000 damage on BMMJ13's fleets!
It was confirmed that The defences of the planet held up under attack!
4242 defence facilities, though, in the course of the battle.

Your Fleet strength went from 115,600 to 91,330. This amount is directly related to the fire power on the planet.[/spoiler]

I see that the 2nd is supposedly platformed according to my theory, however it seems to also do 1/2 damage or 1/4 of what it shows to the planet(unless the platform is there too). It shows the normal message of a platform long after the platform should of been destroyed. Most of the others in my log that I checked do show that platform message.

Sarevok wrote:Like, were there platforms involves, were they online, did the fluctuation in platform/natural/fleet power cause a certain threshold to be passed, causing more damage, were your fleets always fully repaired or were you strong enough to only repair every 2-3 hits etc.

Mine had a platform, 382 bil natural and 550 bil roughly total. It seems to not be related to power as the 3rd hit shows that it was more power for the same amount of fleets, but still was the lower amount killed. I repaired after every hit.

BMMJ13 wrote:

Sarevok wrote:Like, were there platforms involves, were they online, did the fluctuation in platform/natural/fleet power cause a certain threshold to be passed, causing more damage, were your fleets always fully repaired or were you strong enough to only repair every 2-3 hits etc.

Mine had a platform, 382 bil natural and 550 bil roughly total. It seems to not be related to power as the 3rd hit shows that it was more power for the same amount of fleets, but still was the lower amount killed. I repaired after every hit.

Ok, I have also noticed, when platforms are significantly weakened, that they only appear every so often? And this is what happened for you BMMJ?

Sarevok wrote:

BMMJ13 wrote:

Sarevok wrote:Like, were there platforms involves, were they online, did the fluctuation in platform/natural/fleet power cause a certain threshold to be passed, causing more damage, were your fleets always fully repaired or were you strong enough to only repair every 2-3 hits etc.

Mine had a platform, 382 bil natural and 550 bil roughly total. It seems to not be related to power as the 3rd hit shows that it was more power for the same amount of fleets, but still was the lower amount killed. I repaired after every hit.

Ok, I have also noticed, when platforms are significantly weakened, that they only appear every so often? And this is what happened for you BMMJ?

That could be what happened, there was a platform and it would of been severely weakened at that point. I had thought that platforms were massed first then the rest of the planet so that would be interesting if it were the reason behind. So yes, it could of happened, but I have no idea if that is why.

BuMp


Still no news on this bug, with people ascending during war and some nice planets that would be taken if exposed this basically means we cant use this function.

C'mon admin, some action please !!!!

We have had that problem as well....

Is it possible this error occurs when the alliance PPT puts someone over the PPT cap at 2880 minutes?

For example. I go on ppt now. In an hour, my alliance leader uses 1 alliance PPT... putting me back at 2880 minutes. Everything is fine. Alliance leader then decides to use more alliance PPTs bringing me over the 2880 total PPT time, which then causes the bug to reset the total PPT time to zero + alliance PPTs.

MaxSterling wrote:Is it possible this error occurs when the alliance PPT puts someone over the PPT cap at 2880 minutes?

For example. I go on ppt now. In an hour, my alliance leader uses 1 alliance PPT... putting me back at 2880 minutes. Everything is fine. Alliance leader then decides to use more alliance PPTs bringing me over the 2880 total PPT time, which then causes the bug to reset the total PPT time to zero + alliance PPTs.

I can verify that it happened to me - I bought a PPT and alliance member was being massed, 2iC bought alliance PPT and I had only used about 15-20 Minutes of mine. And that's when I noticed this bug.

/KJ

Kjarkur wrote:

MaxSterling wrote:Is it possible this error occurs when the alliance PPT puts someone over the PPT cap at 2880 minutes?

For example. I go on ppt now. In an hour, my alliance leader uses 1 alliance PPT... putting me back at 2880 minutes. Everything is fine. Alliance leader then decides to use more alliance PPTs bringing me over the 2880 total PPT time, which then causes the bug to reset the total PPT time to zero + alliance PPTs.

I can verify that it happened to me - I bought a PPT and alliance member was being massed, 2iC bought alliance PPT and I had only used about 15-20 Minutes of mine. And that's when I noticed this bug.

/KJ

Cheers guys, a good possibility, hope admin can check / fix soon.

Would be a good idea if Leader/2IC could see members PPT clocks in the alliance management page

MEZZANINE wrote:

Kjarkur wrote:

MaxSterling wrote:Is it possible this error occurs when the alliance PPT puts someone over the PPT cap at 2880 minutes?

For example. I go on ppt now. In an hour, my alliance leader uses 1 alliance PPT... putting me back at 2880 minutes. Everything is fine. Alliance leader then decides to use more alliance PPTs bringing me over the 2880 total PPT time, which then causes the bug to reset the total PPT time to zero + alliance PPTs.

I can verify that it happened to me - I bought a PPT and alliance member was being massed, 2iC bought alliance PPT and I had only used about 15-20 Minutes of mine. And that's when I noticed this bug.

/KJ

Cheers guys, a good possibility, hope admin can check / fix soon.

Would be a good idea if Leader/2IC could see members PPT clocks in the alliance management page

I believe the error occurs when the 2IC adds time to the PPT. Instead of the time being added, everyone's PPT is reset to 0 + PPT time added.

ive skimmed over this but about sabbing .... someone was sabbed so they covert phased in one day ... at rollover 00:00 still couldnt sab .... 24 hrs later can only sab 1 time a turn ..... this doesnt seem right

is this topic still active ?