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Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:01 am
by Almost38
damn u guys [-X :smt024

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:47 am
by Mr Nice Guy
Mathlord wrote:Easy excuse to never mass someone...you can do better than that ;)



No he cant... lol i havent see anyone able to destroy me while im online less they would with you! Ha ha ha im not like my account is good, just they aint that good... well maybe etl got close but thats not fair with his 40/40 anyone should be able to take anyone else down way easier than he does it!


Anyways :smt050 selling uus to Huxley... broker me i have 20m for ya! Use em to mass my def (smaller than ussual i know but had a very innactive away week) :-" :-" :-"

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:18 am
by Norbe
doc holliday wrote:I hereby dedicate this page in the honor of the great 311.


Seconded'

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For those of you who don't remember him, he was a TA HC member and a great guy. Do a forum search for some of his posts from the past, always light hearted even during the middle of hard fought wars. We can all learn a lot from his attitude.

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Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:34 am
by Field Marshall
Good start to the day...and to lighten the mood and to give OE a chance and not have my defence be a barrier.

I'm willing to give out a war setting in a 3 hour window...to the whole of OE.

No PPTs. If there is an alliance one. I'll cancel it. If your interested, let me know.

Alternatively, if somebody wants to build a 100t def and give a war/war setting. I'll play with that too. Again...let me know.

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:32 am
by Mathlord
I'm back baby :-D

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:45 am
by IFLuX
I was top 10 without you in game...

IT WAS LIKE WOOOOOOOOT first time top 10 feels good .. lets have a beer =D>

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:07 am
by Mathlord
Congrats IFLux! It's a fun feeling up here :D

Oh and now I could tally up Huxley massing numbers...dun dun dun!

So from a base unit perspective, Huxley lost 118,366,340 defense supers. I lost 262,828,966 attack supers.

Huxley and Rudy lost 66,817,603 spies from sabbing. I lost 149,784,619 weapons. Lucky you guys didn't set war back (and I temp PPTd at the opportune moment muhwahahaha) or I'd have actually lost my defense each time haha. I was running so low on spies constantly refilling attack supers.

Now by the time I started on you, you had top 150,803,928 defense weapons left. I know you sold off most of your defense weapons. It's funny you got all those extra spies and really could have prevented me from finishing you off with the uu supplies available last night if you just trained your defense up again. Anyway, you had a minimum of 5,479,308 defense weapons. So at best for you, you sold off 145,324,620 weapons...which is equivalent (naq-wise) to losing 58,129,848 defense weapons plus the 5,479,308 I massed in the end.

So thus, grand totals:

I lost: 262,828,966 uu and 149,784,619 weapons
You (and Rudy from a bit of sabbing) lost: 185,143,983 uu and 63,609,156 weapons

Anyway, the point of all of this is obviously I lost more than you. You can call it a bad massing all you want and boast about how much your defense killed. Just one thing. At the end of the day, once again, the Omegan was zeroed and the Tauri was not ;) War is expensive, insanely expensive. Giant defenses take a ton of naq and uu to bring down, even moreso when the opponent is very active and has good log watchers protecting him too. The really hilarious thing? You were online the entire time. You let me run with low spies and keep bashing away at your defense and then let me catch you with no nox on (resetting phasing I guess?) and finish you off. It took over 90 minutes and over 11 pages of attack logs, but you went all the way to 0.

Thanks to my favorite mercenary Feri for making this possible. Sorry FM, you'll have to mass something big now to get the TAF Favorite Merc pin back :shock:

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:54 am
by Lord-RahL
DAMN!!! :shock:

Love the losses on both sides!!! Good fighting all!!


RahL

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:59 am
by Black wolf
nice one :) having fun i see math :P

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:09 pm
by Mathlord
I'm just trying to keep up :)

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:22 pm
by Black wolf
lord hell down is in TAF? :O :D since when?

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 1:35 pm
by Ryuujin Jakka
Huxley wrote:
doc holliday wrote:3. Rudy you guys have been asking help for a while now. Like Huxley pming alliances to support them in the house war for peace. Bet you didn't mention you'd mass them like like you did to Asgard protectorate if they were supporting us though. Way to make their alliance leader quit. That's all the game needs...


I gave him a polite 24hours notice to not support TAAE for house leadership, unfortunately your right he must of deleted his account after I massed him, but I did mention don't support either side, or you'll find yourself in trouble with one of them.

As for Swamp Rats, lol, you use TAAE and its dead accounts as tools, who cares if I was trying to get them to vote for us, you kicked them anyway. End of discussion.

doc holliday wrote:4. Where is one of those good job math on the mass? Or good job feri instead of complaining he is in our alliance. Please don't be poor sports about a war you choose to drag on.


Ahem, above.
swamp ratss are mainly all ex omegans including my self ;) I miss being with ogre owning some asses Lol :))

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:24 pm
by R0B3RT
100 players vs 10 and omega still have defence
he he something not work here :-D

Ω Allegiance EnterTheLion Disciples of Forseti (justice) 3,473,781,350 8 898,301,742,748,780

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:25 pm
by Huxley
New war ME (for this account) Mathlord mops up:

Note: this is only in the last 2weeks, upon rejoining Omega.
[spoiler]Your Achievements (war points per in brakets)
Attack Mercs Killed (30) 521,924,535
Defence Mercs Killed (10) 170,692,887
Attack Soldiers Killed(60) 0
Defence Soldiers Killed(20) 2,409,298
Attack Super Soldiers Killed(300) 1,213,119,934
Defence Super Soldiers Killed(100) 155,603,986
Spies Killed(50) 366,083,131
Spy Killers Killed(50) 125,316,378
Mothership Weapons Destroyed(300) 8,525,045
Mothership Shields Destroyed(300) 7,113,793
Mothership Fleets Destroyed(200) 582,898
Planet Defences Destroyed(300) 1,055,024
Planets Taken(5000) 5
Naquadah Stolen(0.0001) 29,397,522,010,691
Untrained Kidnapped(50) 422,536,556
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att)(0.0001) 17,281,824,332,735
Attack Turns Used(1) 47,205
TOTAL WAR EXPERIENCE POINTS 391,814,605,336[/spoiler]

[spoiler]Your Failures
Attacking Mercenaries Lost 197,533,812
Defending Mercenaries Lost 358,468,550
Raiders Lost 0
Guards Lost 0
Super Soldier Lost 82,512,412
Super Guards Lost 383,251,765
Undercover Agents Lost 186,933,967
Assassin Lost 54,409,697
Mothership Weapons Lost 2,230,133
Mothership Shields Lost 5,605,524
Mothership Fleets Lost 672,757
Planet Defences Lost 1,000
Planets Lost 4
Naquadah Lost 23,744,807,425,352
Untrained Lost 465,594
Weapon Points Destroyed (Sab+Att on You) 0
Attack Turns Used Against You 9,463
Plus/Minus 0[/spoiler]

I shall now officially bury my previous defense to a nice grave of honor for it alone killed 1.2 billion attack supers of my enemies and for that I will never forget it.

1.860 billion uu killed, 707 million uu lost. Not including sabbing losses on both sides which added another probably 200 mill uu each easily. Don't know about weapons (more like cba to calc!) Let the blood never stop.

Does this look familiar? :smt112

Lord Shimra just added another 22mil attack supers killed for a 800b defence, sweet.

I could throw up another and watch you burn another billion+ units, more this time after learning more tricks but the burdon to watch it, hell no! My sleep is much more valueable, but I'll throw some nice defences up don't you worry :)

The reason I didn't retrain my defence was

Mathlord wrote:Huxley and Rudy lost 66,817,603 spies from sabbing. I lost 149,784,619 weapons. Lucky you guys didn't set war back (and I temp PPTd at the opportune moment muhwahahaha) or I'd have actually lost my defense each time haha. I was running so low on spies constantly refilling attack supers.


You were buying them from the black market then retraining them into spies to deter me from sabbing (though I did have a window of opportunity to sab, you wisely kept hitting to keep your attack weapons damaged, good move, they do say attack is the best form of defence ;))

Mathlord wrote:Now by the time I started on you, you had top 150,803,928 defense weapons left. I know you sold off most of your defense weapons. It's funny you got all those extra spies and really could have prevented me from finishing you off with the uu supplies available last night if you just trained your defense up again.


Unlike you I had to ration my UU, I had plans to 0 you but unfortunately they went sour when you kept rebuying/restocking UU. Limited Resources vs Unlimted resources case (Huxley vs Mathlord)

Mathlord wrote:Anyway, you had a minimum of 5,479,308 defense weapons. So at best for you, you sold off 145,324,620 weapons...which is equivalent (naq-wise) to losing 58,129,848 defense weapons plus the 5,479,308 I massed in the end.

So thus, grand totals:

I lost: 262,828,966 uu and 149,784,619 weapons
You (and Rudy from a bit of sabbing) lost: 185,143,983 uu and 63,609,156 weapons


Wait a miniute, your counting the naq loss from selling the defence weapons as your kills?

Hell me and rudy must of killed hundreds of millions of Feri's attack weapons in that case! He sold and rebought a few times. With attack weapons being sold off for 13% of the actual price, by your own perception I personally killed lets say 280million attack weapons? Sweet - I should go add that to my post at the top! :roll:

Mathlord wrote:Anyway, the point of all of this is obviously I lost more than you. You can call it a bad massing all you want and boast about how much your defense killed.


Massing with 250million attack weapons and only 30mil UU trained, I wonder what your repair costs were like? You didn't take that into consideration eh? I'm fairly sure I killed more attack supers than you say, or Stratigize or Feri lost more than I thought; but I'll take your word, "Mathlord" ;)

Mathlord wrote:Just one thing. At the end of the day, once again, the Omegan was zeroed and the Tauri was not ;)


Whoopdey doo, I sold off most of my defence weapons and they all did work killing, you might as well say self massed your attack on me a few times too, and your MS, and your account in general. If you didn't keep running back to the black market for more UU and PPT's, we both know you would have been TOAST!

Mathlord wrote:War is expensive, insanely expensive. Giant defenses take a ton of naq and uu to bring down, even moreso when the opponent is very active and has good log watchers protecting him too.


Hello Sherlock Holmes! I hadn't noticed it was expensive, when I see the figures of $ spent this war...

You should learn from Feri, though his AC 40 was the determining factor in getting a decent k/d ratio, he is a efficient masser, most of the time. Good job Feri!

I would say you could learn from me, I class myself as a very efficient masser, but, you wouldn't want to take lessons from me, or would you? :razz:

Mathlord wrote:The really hilarious thing? You were online the entire time. You let me run with low spies and keep bashing away at your defense and then let me catch you with no nox on (resetting phasing I guess?) and finish you off. It took over 90 minutes and over 11 pages of attack logs, but you went all the way to 0.


Yes I must of forgot to put it back on in the rush of the timing out incident - I went to buy a PPT after unphasing and reconing quickly, didn't go to plan #-o

Mathlord wrote:Thanks to my favorite mercenary Feri for making this possible.


You can joke about this, but personally what I have learnt is TAF cannot deal with a defence of say 120T+ without the help of big players such as Feri, with their high ACs and coverts. Strategize would have never gotton through me, neither would anyone else in TAF except possibily FM, and of course Feri with their AC's they deal a big blow to the defence, as you saw.

I was clever not to give war settings out, but with their AC's it really doesn't matter your going down if you can't replenish the spies your rapidly losing.

Dam this is a novel, I did a Mathlord :P

Re: Happy Birthday ETL! - TAF vs. OE

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 2:49 pm
by Mathlord
I could reply to everything you said, but this right here sums everything up perfectly...

Huxley wrote:I could throw up another and watch you burn another billion+ units, more this time after learning more tricks but the burdon to watch it, hell no! My sleep is much more valueable, but I'll throw some nice defences up don't you worry :)


I look forward to your...smaller...attempts at a defense. Hopefully they will be satisfactory.