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Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:07 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
lmao bmmj, you amuse me..I have yet to see you attack me, yet whenever I was in the mood and you were off ppt, I could stroll into your realm and do as I willed..similar to how the British used to treat the Chinese during the 1800s.
Your sticks and stones don't break My bones!
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:09 am
by KnowLedge
The British were also little thieves who had nothing in England so they had to go around the world killing people to get rich.
low life cowardly thieves,
I dont think that's what Omega is, do you?
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:18 am
by RepliMagni
BMMJ13 wrote:My propaganda is at the end of every post I make, cause you see, it's hard for Omega to deny cold, hard numbers. Mayhem tried to do deny it then the person went "innactive" and never replied again, because you see, you can't flip the numbers to make you look good. Funny how Omega think they are dominating EPA when they are loosing the only thing left that's valuable in game, yet EPA losses nothing.

Oh, but that's because EPA builds nothing. Yet another of Omega's excuse for their failure.
Cold hard numbers are hard to deny? Well, lets see then:
Ω Allegiance EnterTheLion Disciples of Osiris (Shadow) 6,122,521,952 6 262,979,433,696,445 21
EPA BMMJ13 Disciples of Osiris (Shadow) 3,078,570,650 136 6,600,599,919,024 15
- EPA has half Omega's army size
- EPA is ranked 130 places behind Omega
- Omega have over 250tril more power than EPA
- EPA highest ranked player 856
- Omega highest ranked player 1
- EPA players in top 1000 = 1
- Omega players in top 1000 = 13
Yep, looks like you're really hitting Omega where it hurts....
As for your bragging about hitting planets....in 3 months of warfare you've destroyed what is it? 350tril worth of planet defences? Last week I farmed 100tril naq and I'm not a prodigious farmer. 350tril damage from all of Omega over 3 months? I doubt they've even noticed the naq is missing....
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:24 am
by SSG EnterTheLion
KnowLedge wrote:The British were also little thieves who had nothing in England so they had to go around the world killing people to get rich.
low life cowardly thieves,
I dont think that's what Omega is, do you?
Here's a little recommendation..read up on your history. All Empires expand, all empires kill, booty is the right of conquest. India's greatest Empire, the Mughals did the same. It all runs in cycles. I assure you, if the tables were reversed..in India, in Africa, in China during the last 500-600 years, the results would have been the same with the other side commiting the same so called 'crimes' of conquest.
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:32 am
by Castiel
RepliMagni wrote:BMMJ13 wrote:My propaganda is at the end of every post I make, cause you see, it's hard for Omega to deny cold, hard numbers. Mayhem tried to do deny it then the person went "innactive" and never replied again, because you see, you can't flip the numbers to make you look good. Funny how Omega think they are dominating EPA when they are loosing the only thing left that's valuable in game, yet EPA losses nothing.

Oh, but that's because EPA builds nothing. Yet another of Omega's excuse for their failure.
Cold hard numbers are hard to deny? Well, lets see then:
Ω Allegiance EnterTheLion Disciples of Osiris (Shadow) 6,122,521,952 6 262,979,433,696,445 21
EPA BMMJ13 Disciples of Osiris (Shadow) 3,078,570,650 136 6,600,599,919,024 15
- EPA has half Omega's army size
- EPA is ranked 130 places behind Omega
- Omega have over 250tril more power than EPA
- EPA highest ranked player 856
- Omega highest ranked player 1
- EPA players in top 1000 = 1
- Omega players in top 1000 = 13
Yep, looks like you're really hitting Omega where it hurts....
As for your bragging about hitting planets....in 3 months of warfare you've destroyed what is it? 350tril worth of planet defences? Last week I farmed 100tril naq and I'm not a prodigious farmer. 350tril damage from all of Omega over 3 months? I doubt they've even noticed the naq is missing....
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Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:04 am
by Kjarkur
BMMJ,
elite alliances such as OA don't count on planets, for their accounts to be strong, the ones you get are hardly that much worth - otherwise they'd be merlin'ed.
You can get a few members for up to 20, 50,80Trill in planet defenses. Farming 25-50Trill in 24 hours is easy if you've got a little spare time.
Not to mention Omega's superiority in resources.
You can brag all ya want but in the end you're not the one doing most damage. Occasional planet here and there, how ever, I will say this: in getting planets defenses you are doing a pretty good job on your own.
But doing ONLY that is lousy, at best.
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:08 am
by BMMJ13
Rank and Power matter now?

If I wiped out every defense, ms and covert in Omega, it would be what? 20 tril damage? With the way the game is set up as of the latest update combined with Omegas Covert levels it is not worth it currently. Leave all your planets off merlin if they are that little of a deal.
Norbe wrote:Just to keep this on track I thought i'd do a quick piece comparing the two alliances that are involved in the war.
Omega - 21 players, 11 of which have 19 ascensions or more.
vs
EPA - 10 players, one LoTAG, one AGoL, one EAG and everyone else is LG or lower.
I'd say EPA are definitely the underdogs here.
EPA is the smaller alliance, we don't deny that. We are less built, but that doesn't mean we do less damage to you. Here almost 3 months later let us see how we have changed.
Omega - 21 players, 8 of which have 19 ascensions or more.
vs
EPA - 16 players, one GoAG, one QoTAG, one LoTAG, one AGoL, one AG and everyone else is LG or lower.
So Omega is the same size, yet has less High Ascended members (though likely some lower members are ascending higher), and EPA is larger with higher ascended levels. I personally have ascended 4 times in the time, so yes, surely EPA is being kept in the ground.

at the attempts to say that planets aren't hurting, that's why people Merlin after I hit them or hit ppt while I have fleets built.
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:50 am
by GeneralChaos
Because merlin or PPT pisses you the farmer off, id do it just to piss you off, watching you hit a planet 20-25 times to take it, 15 AT's each time, then just hit merlin for 24 hours, lol gotta love those cheap AT's haha.
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:12 pm
by Mathlord
GeneralChaos wrote:Because merlin or PPT pisses you the farmer off, id do it just to piss you off, watching you hit a planet 20-25 times to take it, 15 AT's each time, then just hit merlin for 24 hours, lol gotta love those cheap AT's haha.
I could say got to love those cheap planet defenses in response

There's a reason planet stealing is so cost effective, even with the turn losses. Remember it's not always about the planet, it's about the funds you put into defending that planet.
I think I'll return to my previous reaction to where this thread has gone.
Sigh.
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:55 pm
by BMMJ13
GeneralChaos wrote:Because merlin or PPT pisses you the farmer off, id do it just to piss you off, watching you hit a planet 20-25 times to take it, 15 AT's each time, then just hit merlin for 24 hours, lol gotta love those cheap AT's haha.

Got to love your arguments. Each 15 at hit costs me 15 bil in ats at most? The smaller it is, the cheaper my repairs, even if it's the cheapest (3 tril per 100k) I would still be killing 4k per hit and it would cost them 120 bil per hit, while I lost 25 bil (15 for ats, 10 for repairs). Sure the most damage occurs (to both stats and defenses) on the last hit that takes the planet, but to think that I would lose naq prior to that is hilarious. Many of Omegas Planets are 7-9 tril per 100k, so easily 2x-3x the cost to them with the same cost to me at lower sizes, and it only gets worse as there is more defenses.
Merlin means you lose that many merlins protecting your planets that you "don't care about", PPT means you would be ppting around my schedule.
Still love that this war was over because Omega couldn't stand EPA farming them but they wanted to farm us. I'm sure those few bils/trils you stole were worth the 200+ tril in damage to your planets.

Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:02 pm
by Ĕɱƿŷ
200t in planets compared to the priceless value of EPAs reputation as an alliance with no skill. I can see the hordes of SGW players lining up to join EPA's ranks

Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:12 pm
by RBR
turkey_man wrote:200t in planets compared to the priceless value of EPAs reputation as an alliance with no skill. I can see the hordes of SGW players lining up to join EPA's ranks

hmmm
I still have a high respect for EPA
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Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:57 pm
by BMMJ13
RBR wrote:turkey_man wrote:200t in planets compared to the priceless value of EPAs reputation as an alliance with no skill. I can see the hordes of SGW players lining up to join EPA's ranks

hmmm
I still have a high respect for EPA
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He also seemed to miss my previous post where over 3 months EPA has increased roughly 50% in membership while Omega has stayed the same.

Yes I'm sure if EPA was known as an alliance who surrenders easily or lets other alliances walk over them with outrageous policies is a better way to gain a reputation.
I must say I enjoy this back and forth, it cures boredom with how much I've been on ppt lately. Going to end up being on PPT for more than 2 weeks straight, not very fun.

Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:08 am
by High Empty
BMMJ13 wrote:Rank and Power matter now?

If I wiped out every defense, ms and covert in Omega, it would be what? 20 tril damage? With the way the game is set up as of the latest update combined with Omegas Covert levels it is not worth it currently. Leave all your planets off merlin if they are that little of a deal.
To Recap
ETL has a 32 tril defence, and 100 mil spies trained?
So that what 80 mil weapons ( defence only) + 45mil attack weapons
Naq Value
100mil spies= 50 tril naq
125 mil weapons = 75 tril naq
100mil supers = 50 tril naq
So that's 175 tril of naq damage you could do? That's one player.
So what were you saying?
That you can't mass him?
Which is fine.
Re: The Omega Allegiance declares war against the EPA
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:58 pm
by Kjarkur
Only hurting Omega in planets (which is an add-on to the actual account) is not proving anything regarding the EPA. Removing all stats + planets would be well respected.
Just because EPA decides to sits statless and do nothing except planet defenses (again, aside from Mathlord but he's technically not EPA) is hardly considered having the upper hand.
if EPA goes for building stats that are gonna cost Omega resources to remove, then they will have gain some respect.
But it's how they wanna ''fight'' and that's up to them. Good luck with that. Perhaps BMMJ should think about what's best for his alliance.
I'd also like to add, BMMJ has hurt Omega in 189Trill in planet defenses according to his signature - I'm 50Trill of that, and that can be farmed in 2 days easy - of course 50T is damage but EPA should aim higher when they're at war - well done with planet massings though. No denying that.