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Same old past cpl of months been a nightmare with the kids etc, but that's a diff story

Apart from RL being a pain all is good i guess

DucknDive wrote:I understand your frustration BMM, i have been in your shoes many times over the years. However i have never back down from a fight .... the only real difference for me this time round as you may have noticed from TAF logs, i am not that active as of late(RL issues) thus leaving me short of resources(as unable to get time behind pc), hence my prevouis comment(i fight within my means).

But when i do have the time & resources, i will be happy to drop your def, i have taken bigger in the past, just timing for me atm isn't the best.

Don't get me wrong don't take this as me making excuses as its not, it was my choice to vac or stick around and i stuck around

Also i see i almost took more spies in the hour or 2 of fun i did have than you have in total ? Nice kills on the supers though, well played!!

I await that time, though most of Ricos seem to be busy and unable to do stuff. As for the spies, I didn't AC any of the big defenses I took, that's all from ac'ing through defenses. If you want to see the spies killed on the defenses I killed, check Chachos post around 1st page and Docs post on 17th or so.

DucknDive wrote:Same old past cpl of months been a nightmare with the kids etc, but that's a diff story

Apart from RL being a pain all is good i guess

Am sorry to hear that life has been a **Filtered** DnD. Hopefully it will pick up for you mate

Lord Yojimbo wrote:

DucknDive wrote:Same old past cpl of months been a nightmare with the kids etc, but that's a diff story

Apart from RL being a pain all is good i guess

Am sorry to hear that life has been a **Filtered** DnD. Hopefully it will pick up for you mate

If he ever ventures south im sure heaven Seeker and I can put a smile onthat face of his, We'll show him what us nglish folk call Skirt, none of the Skirt he's used to up in scottland muahaha

lol yeah i can paint my face blue and run around shouting "Freedom!!" ???

^^Thats my pulling technique

just keep your pants on whilst doing so, otherwise we might be in for a sticky situation!

BMMJ13 wrote:

DucknDive wrote:So let me clear this up ......... you are trying to take the piss because i hit alliance ppt, right ?

Then i hit my normal ppt(which i was planning on doing anyways - So credit for that ppt doesn't goto you i am afriad). So u try to laugh at me for using a ingame feature...... whats next criticizing me for pressing buttons ...... sorry bmm your right my bad, i mean how could i even have considered using a feature of the game to put me on a better standing ?

Bottom line i didnt have the resources to hit you back else i would of, so done the next best thing .... i raped your team mates instead

PS. You couldn't of done that great a job or else i wouldn't have take what i did from TAF

You ran from a fight while trying to mass smaller players, consider your total killed for the night was less than 1/3 of what I had trained total in defense and spies. Seems like the Ricos motto: We brag about massing those smaller than us but run from a real fight. No wonder no one respects your alliance anymore.

Hmmmm no one respects us anymore....well if you say so....
True,we got older,many left,I guess I wont play it much longer ether,7 years is a long time. What was once fun,isnt fun anymore with all other things in life.

We fought many wars and will fight them in the future,who will be then in Ricos only time will tell,maybe I will be still around,maybe not.

18 months ago,we were at our best,went head to head with OE best,fought epic battles,battles no one ever fought against them. AG stepped in and then TAF. In all of that, where were you then B? So next time you even use ward respect think hard,hard and again hard.

The life force of TAF IS MATHLORD. I am man enough to admit that he is one of best players ever in SGW,and sorry your not,not even close.If I hit your ego,well that is your problem.

Why I dont build something, easy to answer,I have time,I have recources,but bitter taste in my mouth,with what you boys did with sneak attack on us will last some time.
Taf is not agressive but will use force if need be.....your moto.......So I wonder how to qualify your sneak attack into that moto.

So talk about respect,TAF has none in my eyes anymore.....And some of you know what I am talking about.

FG out

Lol at no respect for sneak attack. You guys raid massed one member, then massed another and said he'd be sat on. So according to you we were supposed to then let you know we were going to mass you back? Where was the warning for our poor fellas. You started it. We just came and finished it.

tbh i think its time to stop war, because this thread is turning to garbage
(not only my fault i hope )

i still respect RIcos, allways did

doc holliday wrote:Lol at no respect for sneak attack. You guys raid massed one member, then massed another and said he'd be sat on. So according to you we were supposed to then let you know we were going to mass you back? Where was the warning for our poor fellas. You started it. We just came and finished it.

Please do not play dumb with me doc. Dont do that to your self....
Before this all started,months ago math raided Ashrak for huge amount of UU (yeah you forgot about that),we gave no responce,since It was a fair hit.
If we would do something like that to your top players,we would be at war I guess there and then....

More recently some ricos took planets from TAF member,situation was more or less very tense,some massing took place,some repayment,and one vendeta. Things got more or less sorted. No one got sat on,only fair farm hits followed,which no one argued.

Talks with TAF HC were held all the time and all was good. (my habbit of saving convos can prove it).

So I support 100% Inr,lets finish this before this gets very personal,since you have no clue what you talking about,or you can ask math about it.

Fallen Gabriel wrote:Hmmmm no one respects us anymore....well if you say so....
True,we got older,many left,I guess I wont play it much longer ether,7 years is a long time. What was once fun,isnt fun anymore with all other things in life.

We fought many wars and will fight them in the future,who will be then in Ricos only time will tell,maybe I will be still around,maybe not.

18 months ago,we were at our best,went head to head with OE best,fought epic battles,battles no one ever fought against them. AG stepped in and then TAF. In all of that, where were you then B? So next time you even use ward respect think hard,hard and again hard.

The life force of TAF IS MATHLORD. I am man enough to admit that he is one of best players ever in SGW,and sorry your not,not even close.If I hit your ego,well that is your problem.

Why I dont build something, easy to answer,I have time,I have recources,but bitter taste in my mouth,with what you boys did with sneak attack on us will last some time.
Taf is not agressive but will use force if need be.....your moto.......So I wonder how to qualify your sneak attack into that moto.

So talk about respect,TAF has none in my eyes anymore.....And some of you know what I am talking about.

FG out

You treat war as sport, as a game we play. To mass random people is a fun way to pass the time. You treat this as a war game and only a war game. That's fair to you, but when you treat the game as a killing field you have to be ready for people to respond in kind.

You know how many times I've come to you this past year trying to work out problems. A Rico shows up in our logs 50 times in a day, well let's talk about it and find a solution. A Rico threatened a member with a massing, well let's address that. A couple Rico's stole duals, well let's keep it between a few of us instead of starting a war. We tried a NAP, but it only would have worked for you guys if it was between TA and Rico's only, not TATS and TAAE and we don't roll that way. We don't fight wars as if they are competitions, each side sends in its five members and we have a little party. Sure that could calm tensions, but it doesn't solve problems. We ended a hard war with DDE and a really long hard war with OE to finally get good terms and extended peace. A team battle with a short follow-up NAP and return to the same conditions as before won't change anything, never has and never will.

Did we give you advance warning of our massing? Of course not, that's about the dumbest thing possible to do in a war. This isn't playing at war, this is a war. We fight for keeps. We fight so that it ends faster, not so everyone thinks "gee wiz that was fun, let's cause stuff to happen so we do it again in a month". We fight for definitive solutions, even if it's just "hey let's make sure we never fight again". We tried diplomacy. So many times. Even we have our limits.

By the way, for the record, while Rico's was fighting their great fights, BMMJ was in the middle of a two year long war with Omega, DDE and at times Mayhem. Most major alliances, Rico's included, threatened or massed EPA over those years and he held his ground. A small alliance against all of FUALL and more is worth more respect than most deserve in this game. Besides, Bmm is the reason above any other that my defense and many other TAF defenses still stand. He fights hard, defends hard and is a great leader. Any alliance would be lucky to have him.

Ugh I hate when wars get all angry. This conflict is quickly living past its usefulness for everyone involved. We should talk about time frames for this before the pain and anger outweighs the fun.

Mathlord wrote:

Fallen Gabriel wrote:Hmmmm no one respects us anymore....well if you say so....
True,we got older,many left,I guess I wont play it much longer ether,7 years is a long time. What was once fun,isnt fun anymore with all other things in life.

We fought many wars and will fight them in the future,who will be then in Ricos only time will tell,maybe I will be still around,maybe not.

18 months ago,we were at our best,went head to head with OE best,fought epic battles,battles no one ever fought against them. AG stepped in and then TAF. In all of that, where were you then B? So next time you even use ward respect think hard,hard and again hard.

The life force of TAF IS MATHLORD. I am man enough to admit that he is one of best players ever in SGW,and sorry your not,not even close.If I hit your ego,well that is your problem.

Why I dont build something, easy to answer,I have time,I have recources,but bitter taste in my mouth,with what you boys did with sneak attack on us will last some time.
Taf is not agressive but will use force if need be.....your moto.......So I wonder how to qualify your sneak attack into that moto.

So talk about respect,TAF has none in my eyes anymore.....And some of you know what I am talking about.

FG out

You treat war as sport, as a game we play. To mass random people is a fun way to pass the time. You treat this as a war game and only a war game. That's fair to you, but when you treat the game as a killing field you have to be ready for people to respond in kind.

You know how many times I've come to you this past year trying to work out problems. A Rico shows up in our logs 50 times in a day, well let's talk about it and find a solution. A Rico threatened a member with a massing, well let's address that. A couple Rico's stole duals, well let's keep it between a few of us instead of starting a war. We tried a NAP, but it only would have worked for you guys if it was between TA and Rico's only, not TATS and TAAE and we don't roll that way. We don't fight wars as if they are competitions, each side sends in its five members and we have a little party. Sure that could calm tensions, but it doesn't solve problems. We ended a hard war with DDE and a really long hard war with OE to finally get good terms and extended peace. A team battle with a short follow-up NAP and return to the same conditions as before won't change anything, never has and never will.

Did we give you advance warning of our massing? Of course not, that's about the dumbest thing possible to do in a war. This isn't playing at war, this is a war. We fight for keeps. We fight so that it ends faster, not so everyone thinks "gee wiz that was fun, let's cause stuff to happen so we do it again in a month". We fight for definitive solutions, even if it's just "hey let's make sure we never fight again". We tried diplomacy. So many times. Even we have our limits.

By the way, for the record, while Rico's was fighting their great fights, BMMJ was in the middle of a two year long war with Omega, DDE and at times Mayhem. Most major alliances, Rico's included, threatened or massed EPA over those years and he held his ground. A small alliance against all of FUALL and more is worth more respect than most deserve in this game. Besides, Bmm is the reason above any other that my defense and many other TAF defenses still stand. He fights hard, defends hard and is a great leader. Any alliance would be lucky to have him.

Ugh I hate when wars get all angry. This conflict is quickly living past its usefulness for everyone involved. We should talk about time frames for this before the pain and anger outweighs the fun.

I think we should go back to that hug and make up thing I suggested

Fallen Gabriel wrote:Please do not play dumb with me doc. Dont do that to your self....
Before this all started,months ago math raided Ashrak for huge amount of UU (yeah you forgot about that),we gave no responce,since It was a fair hit.
If we would do something like that to your top players,we would be at war I guess there and then....

More recently some ricos took planets from TAF member,situation was more or less very tense,some massing took place,some repayment,and one vendeta. Things got more or less sorted. No one got sat on,only fair farm hits followed,which no one argued.

Talks with TAF HC were held all the time and all was good. (my habbit of saving convos can prove it).

So I support 100% Inr,lets finish this before this gets very personal,since you have no clue what you talking about,or you can ask math about it.

Yes about a year ago I mass raided Ashrak for 50 mil uu on a 10 tril defense or thereabouts and if it was just the raid mass that would have been something we could have discussed like we had done before. I'm sure other TAF people have done harsh things in the past, but we try to prevent that from happening as best we can. Certainly, we have given a much freer reign farming-wise than other alliances. People can attest to how many times I've said "No let's not start a conflict we don't want" over many different things that have taken place. The day after that raid mass, was the second massing and threat of massing TATS, the promise of sitting on a TATS member so on and so forth. This coming after the previous week when a certain someone threatened to mass any TAF member who showed up in his logs (all the while our logs were a majority filled by Rico's). It wasn't one thing, it was just such a barrage that the time for diplomacy had passed.

We have worked well in the past FG, I don't deny that at all. This time I couldn't hold back a war though.

lol do ppl still threat to war that way ....hahahahhahah..... omg

even in their great shape some 2-3 years ago Warlords were not to fight more then 2-3 weeks, and i say warlords cuz they were the core ricos were just noobs

Math, ASJ was massed then farmed for uu had nothing to do with TAF. This was because we were very very tired of him begging for money .... after repeatedly being told what would happen if he didn't stop. But he didn't, he carried. Thats why he was massed.

It wouldn't of made any diff if he was in TAF or DDE(who we are good friends with) he would have still been massed for his actions.

In fact even TA members comment on how there heard this alot from other players to.

As for the rest, i dunno. I wasn't involved.

And the NAP with TA was my idea, and my idea alone. Coz after speaking with you on msn for awhile, i started to like you. However it would have been on a temp basis as a trial. Thats why TATS & TAAE where not included. Not to say at some point they wouldn't been.

But that's all in the past now, and what is done is done. However let it be said, If ASJ does ask any members of ricos for money ... ever again and guess what will happen ?

This isnt a reflection on TAF but ASJ alone.