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why not use your 70k fleets to take them back then?

General Pain I wrote::lol:

Indeed

And also it doesn't matter if it was right. It doesn't matter if it was wrong. The fact of the matter is that you have no rights. Admin can make your account stay at 3 uu if he wished to it. It is his game. A game that he created for people to play for free. If you WISHED TO DONATE, you could get benefits. It is the same as giving to a charity. Now the cause may not be the same but the principle is there. Yes it sucks that this has happened to you but complaining about it will get you nothing. Admin can do whatever he pleases whenever he pleases for it is HIS GAME. He owes you nothing.

Why were accounts that have been cheating on such scale even allowed to stay in the game in the first place ?

An instant deletion of all the accounts created by the one who got banned for cheating would seem like the best solution ...

Sure someone willl scream murder for the fact he didn't cheat in his or her bought account.
Fact remains, the account's foundation is build upon cheating ...
DELETE ....

It's a risk you take when you buy an account from another ....

vinny d wrote:

General Pain I wrote::lol:

Indeed

And also it doesn't matter if it was right. It doesn't matter if it was wrong. The fact of the matter is that you have no rights. Admin can make your account stay at 3 uu if he wished to it. It is his game. A game that he created for people to play for free. If you WISHED TO DONATE, you could get benefits. It is the same as giving to a charity. Now the cause may not be the same but the principle is there. Yes it sucks that this has happened to you but complaining about it will get you nothing. Admin can do whatever he pleases whenever he pleases for it is HIS GAME. He owes you nothing.

While what you say is true, an "absolute viev" such as you gave is unpractical and imposible. Because if you look at it like that and only like that evry1 selling stuf for $ is commiting a Theft against admin, seeing as evrything in this game is his, and they are taking his "virtual stuf" and gaining $ for it (meaning that stuf actualy has a real value).

And also again who would play a game where evrything can be lost due to a free will of some1 else?

Personaly i dont see Jason as a person who would behave like that.
Its more likely that due to limited time he was in a rush, and had to do things a bit faster, and he was hoping all will end up ok. (you know like last 5min of the test and you still got 2 pages to do you just go crazy on circling stuf and hoping for the best)
And i m quite sure that in the next meet admin he ll set things strait. But thats just how i see him / his acitons.

im his teammate

on taking a 60k up plkaent it will drop to 42k and he loses 4-6t on defences and then has to spend on doing it again

hes welcome to take them back ofc, its his call or we wait for admin

Ethaniel wrote:it was hardly cheap, and it was doubled as a trade also. But of course you know nothing. It was 40k fleets, and now its 70k due to ME building it, you're a spastic man, you don't know half of what you're talking about. But you can whine all you want, fact is DDE harbored him for a long time and I am sure your alliance members benefited from him as well.

So before you start pointing fingers, you might want to see if your hands and that of those around you are clean as well... Hmm?

Nothing was taken from me because of the accounts history, it was taken because Admin messed with Zesh and then went to fix the problem and made more problems. You guys trying to lay on me are ... i'll bleep that out.

Luckily we've got a NAP so you can mouth off all you want.

Lucky Star you'd complain if he stripped all your UU and gave it to me, you'd cry
unjust, lol saying you wouldn't is just a lie.. so spare me please.

we harboured him cause we needed complete deatiled progress on whut he was fdoing to build a proper case against him
as for our NAP

we we can cancell it at any time if youd like

Eth, your shouting at the wrong person, admin didn't rip you off on purpose he's just trying to sort out all the mess left by these cheaters. The person who caused you all your problems is the cheat you bought the account off.

You buy blackmarket, you take your chances, any losses from buying cheated resources or accounts are the risk you run making these kind of deals.

Also all associated with banned cheat accounts and making these kind of deals will ( I Hope ) be investigated. Any losses due to this are unfortunate but again a result of there own actions or associations


I hope admin continue this investigation and purge of cheats from the game, I also hope it makes more people realise the true risks of the blackmarket and deters people from using it. If you want to spend RL ££££, buy from the game, and support the game instead of those who play or cheat for profit.

MEZZANINE wrote:Eth, your shouting at the wrong person, admin didn't rip you off on purpose he's just trying to sort out all the mess left by these cheaters. The person who caused you all your problems is the cheat you bought the account off.

You buy blackmarket, you take your chances, any losses from buying cheated resources or accounts are the risk you run making these kind of deals.

Also all associated with banned cheat accounts and making these kind of deals will ( I Hope ) be investigated. Any losses due to this are unfortunate but again a result of there own actions or associations


I hope admin continue this investigation and purge of cheats from the game, I also hope it makes more people realise the true risks of the blackmarket and deters people from using it. If you want to spend RL ££££, buy from the game, and support the game instead of those who play or cheat for profit.

This is really why this thread is so long....

Cant you people read let me spell it out for you once again...

This could have happened to you me anyone.....

It has nothign to do with cheated resources or banned accounts it has to do with admin fixing something in a rush....anyone who would have lost things would have commented on it its really pathetic to see so many people jump on the wagon again.....

Ethaniel wrote:Oh please, i've been playing this game just as long if not longer than you, i've quit before and came back, and I decided since I can't spend years farming i'll just spend some cash on the game, like THOUSANDS of others do, including people in your alliance, so stick it man.

Don't act all high and mighty when you socialize with people who do/done the same thing, just makes you look a fool.

you don't deserve your account anyway
it was built off stolen goods/cheated goods

you know how it is... if u buy a stolen car its buyer beware an du lose the car with no financial compensation

u shuld be happy thats all u lost no matter what the reasons are
that or steal them back from zesh u learly have enuff fleets to do it

This is really why this thread is so long....

Cant you people read let me spell it out for you once again...

This could have happened to you me anyone.....

It has nothign to do with cheated resources or banned accounts it has to do with admin fixing something in a rush....anyone who would have lost things would have commented on it its really pathetic to see so many people jump on the wagon again.

LOL If you dont want public opinion, dont post in a public forum

If it was an accident then it seems like poetic justice

blahh wrote:

vinny d wrote:

General Pain I wrote::lol:

Indeed

And also it doesn't matter if it was right. It doesn't matter if it was wrong. The fact of the matter is that you have no rights. Admin can make your account stay at 3 uu if he wished to it. It is his game. A game that he created for people to play for free. If you WISHED TO DONATE, you could get benefits. It is the same as giving to a charity. Now the cause may not be the same but the principle is there. Yes it sucks that this has happened to you but complaining about it will get you nothing. Admin can do whatever he pleases whenever he pleases for it is HIS GAME. He owes you nothing.

While what you say is true, an "absolute viev" such as you gave is unpractical and imposible. Because if you look at it like that and only like that evry1 selling stuf for $ is commiting a Theft against admin, seeing as evrything in this game is his, and they are taking his "virtual stuf" and gaining $ for it (meaning that stuf actualy has a real value).

And also again who would play a game where evrything can be lost due to a free will of some1 else?

Personaly i dont see Jason as a person who would behave like that.
Its more likely that due to limited time he was in a rush, and had to do things a bit faster, and he was hoping all will end up ok. (you know like last 5min of the test and you still got 2 pages to do you just go crazy on circling stuf and hoping for the best)
And i m quite sure that in the next meet admin he ll set things strait. But thats just how i see him / his acitons.

I actually did not delve into that area blahh. So everything you said is making an ass out of you and me. I love assume! It is a free game that Jason owns. Now no one is stealing from admin based on the fact that he owns this forum as well. On this forum their is an area where you can sell goods for currency. Now if there was no part of the forum where you could sell goods in theory you would be stealing. However as long as it does not say "No selling for Cash" you can sell for all the cash you want and not have to worry about stealing from admin.

@Mystake Its not totaly so in RL.. in some cases you have the posibilitiy to get ovnership on the basis of the posesion, depending on other varius factors including time passed, good faith and so on and even though generaly stolen object are usualy excluded from that, there are always exceptions, subrules ect..., and in any case you are entitled to a restitution from the seller of the "stolen" car wich gets you your money back.... And i doubt we can say the same about SGW bought resources.... I m guessing thats why admin isnt deleting all thous stuf even thoug it would probably be the right thing to do, not just take out the thick but also treat the poison it introduced.

@viny If it was that easy and managable.. it would also be taxable you know they want in whereever they can get their hands in

I do agree its his game, and i do agree he can do whatever he wants, but i also think that if he went by that road, Jtests would be the only accounts playn, and somehow i dont think thats his goal.

Also you missunderstood the main point of the post, read the last part again

All I can do is just laugh. The traitor of a disbanded alliance getting what he deserves. As for the person to the account I do feel sorry if you did put alot of money into into the game. But as for the role play part it couldn't have happened to a better account. To me if it was my teammate I had a choice to take some planets back I would of said hell no if thats all I can get forget it is what I would of said. But hey so much for teamwork. LOL

Funny that everyone is talking about that Ethaniel's current account should be deleted,beacause it was raised on cheated resources,but why nobody is saying that Corkscrew's account should be banned aswell,when he has those loads of cheated uu ???

That didn't make any inbalance in power in game when he bought it from JUAN,righ ?