Crazy Cost of Next Additional Fleet

[cyberblade]

That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.

yup thats about it...

sad but true... when I had planets and a def in main I'd get all sort of threats about my main account... Now that my main account has nothing no one threatens me much anymore on ascended.

Yes but in your case, its different then a true sniper. Your alliance can be destroyed for your actions. A true sniper has no alliance or maintains no real or known friendships that can be used against them.

Hmmm Blahh and zesh are really good mates of mine plz dont hurt them

Anyway lets stop the crap about snipers they are nothing more then farmers without a big tag resulting in no stats because they havent got a big tag not because they are cowards.
Even if i were to build something up everytime i login number 167 checking my account will find nothing at all.
Income is still competitive to snipers just check out the current big accounts and you will see their CER and Lvls arent that much different from the top snipers + they dont have to do much for it more then to login.....

The problem these days is TJP and FUALL always had it the easy way, sitting on their ass and just collecting their income......well that time is over the first part is still true but ill be the one collecting the income

To stay abit on topic .... wait till you pass 500k fleets then moan about the costs

You make a valid statement about the "big tags". Many (not all) of those players use their tags to keep from being flattened, and to threaten back. All too often I hit someone and get a "you messed up really bad hitting X alliance". Some are more polite, once in a while I get a congratulations, sometimes I get peace, often I get massed... Everything except the tag waving I can agree with...

As for the big alliances collecting their income, well, glad to know they aren't getting it all. I do my (small) part as well... But, I am somewhat limited in my abilities.

And I'm nowhere near 500k fleets... I still haven't gotten over 400k. Whats the cost at 400, 450, and 500? I'm struggling as it is-a whole evenings farming (1800 turns) only got me about 20 mil more CER (through charisma) and some def levels.

[Raven]

That's the thing, if you play both servers and play them well, it is impossible to get ahead because you can't do anything to the snipers and you can't snipe because you have stuff to destroy which makes it financially unfeasible. The key to this game is to have a kick ass account in just one or the other server and have a crappy account in the other.

yup thats about it...

sad but true... when I had planets and a def in main I'd get all sort of threats about my main account... Now that my main account has nothing no one threatens me much anymore on ascended.

Yes but in your case, its different then a true sniper. Your alliance can be destroyed for your actions. A true sniper has no alliance or maintains no real or known friendships that can be used against them.

Hmmm Blahh and zesh are really good mates of mine plz dont hurt them

Anyway lets stop the crap about snipers they are nothing more then farmers without a big tag resulting in no stats because they havent got a big tag not because they are cowards.
Even if i were to build something up everytime i login number 167 checking my account will find nothing at all.
Income is still competitive to snipers just check out the current big accounts and you will see their CER and Lvls arent that much different from the top snipers + they dont have to do much for it more then to login.....

The problem these days is TJP and FUALL always had it the easy way, sitting on their ass and just collecting their income......well that time is over the first part is still true but ill be the one collecting the income

To stay abit on topic .... wait till you pass 500k fleets then moan about the costs

You make a valid statement about the "big tags". Many (not all) of those players use their tags to keep from being flattened, and to threaten back. All too often I hit someone and get a "you messed up really bad hitting X alliance". Some are more polite, once in a while I get a congratulations, sometimes I get peace, often I get massed... Everything except the tag waving I can agree with...

As for the big alliances collecting their income, well, glad to know they aren't getting it all. I do my (small) part as well... But, I am somewhat limited in my abilities.

And I'm nowhere near 500k fleets... I still haven't gotten over 400k. Whats the cost at 400, 450, and 500? I'm struggling as it is-a whole evenings farming (1800 turns) only got me about 20 mil more CER (through charisma) and some def levels.

400-450 is some 14quads dmu
450-500 is some 18quads dmu

so 32 quad and you got it from 400-500k

[Mojo Rising]

I love the people who NEVER played ascension up until about six months ago talk about how great their account is now because they are so good. I will clue you in folks, CER doesn't really matter that much anymore. The only thing that matters in ascension anymore is the ability to remain ascended (ie. to avoid descension). Which is a fairly easy proposition. I am just converting income to LF cache and leaving it there. I currently have over 300 billion LF in my cache. And it will just continue to keep growing.

The game is FUBARed and no amount of updating it now will fix it, short of a reset. So I will just keep my bonuses in main and remain ascended in perpetuity.

[cyberblade]

I love the people who NEVER played ascension up until about six months ago talk about how great their account is now because they are so good. I will clue you in folks, CER doesn't really matter that much anymore. The only thing that matters in ascension anymore is the ability to remain ascended (ie. to avoid descension). Which is a fairly easy proposition. I am just converting income to LF cache and leaving it there. I currently have over 300 billion LF in my cache. And it will just continue to keep growing.

The game is FUBARed and no amount of updating it now will fix it, short of a reset. So I will just keep my bonuses in main and remain ascended in perpetuity.

Well, some of us haven't been playing the game long enough to know what it was like... I started playing main in 06, but I didn't ascend until late 07 (I had almost 100mil army by then). While I agree that the ability to stay ascended is key, I don't think that ascended is totally FUBARed. It may need some work, but nothings perfect...

thanks for the fleet costs Raven. with those costs it will be a while, but I'll keep working... Though matching charisma to them is also a pain for me.

[Dr Toboggan]

I love the people who NEVER played ascension up until about six months ago talk about how great their account is now because they are so good. I will clue you in folks, CER doesn't really matter that much anymore. The only thing that matters in ascension anymore is the ability to remain ascended (ie. to avoid descension). Which is a fairly easy proposition. I am just converting income to LF cache and leaving it there. I currently have over 300 billion LF in my cache. And it will just continue to keep growing.

The game is FUBARed and no amount of updating it now will fix it, short of a reset. So I will just keep my bonuses in main and remain ascended in perpetuity.

Yeah, staying ascended is the only thing that really matters, and it's not that hard to stay ascended. I have put just a hair over 1q DMU into my LF stats, and it would take ~2,250q DMU to descend me in the minimum of 9 hours. I have seen alot of people that have put way more into LF stats, and I would hate to think of the cost to descend them . Which if you log in every 9 hours it'd be impossible to do anyway.

Not all of us have been playing since the game began. I've been playing about 1 1/2 years, and was active on ascended several months before the update raiding and farming inactives etc. After the update we were pretty much all given the same amount of resources to work with. Depending on how well you knew the current game decided on how your account faired after the update. Some people stayed the same, while others gained or lost a substantial amount of ranks. Using my resources in the first couple of weeks I skyrocketed past many others who either had gained their rank before and were no longer really doing anything to maintain it, or used their resources unwisely. I think that the server still can be fixed, but it'll take way more than just a band aid update to do anything. That update is most likely the closest to a server reset the game will ever see, and if there were one some people would gain the ground and others would complain once again.

[Raven]

I love the people who NEVER played ascension up until about six months ago talk about how great their account is now because they are so good. I will clue you in folks, CER doesn't really matter that much anymore. The only thing that matters in ascension anymore is the ability to remain ascended (ie. to avoid descension). Which is a fairly easy proposition. I am just converting income to LF cache and leaving it there. I currently have over 300 billion LF in my cache. And it will just continue to keep growing.

The game is FUBARed and no amount of updating it now will fix it, short of a reset. So I will just keep my bonuses in main and remain ascended in perpetuity.

Those people never played it because it wasnt even worth looking at......i know you liked having only 10 active players in Asc and you being one of the top guys of those [what an amazing thing you did] you never did anything but sitting on your ass and hiding behind your tag when it mattered most[the time when everyone was raided when it was worth it you just snuckled behind your fat little tag]......now asc is actually a place where you gotta work to be ahead you fall down the ranks like in a bottomless pit.......figures...

[fremen]

435B per fleet. Still seems a fair price, especially when I look at my Historic Battles. Someday it might get too expensive, but I am nowhere near my current CER goal. Even if it does get too expensive, I will persevere and spend my loot on what pleases.

I am not even focusing on CER at the moment, so my goal will have to be deferred a month or six.

And who worries about the 9 hour login to avoid descension? Haven't you all powered up the relevant stats yet to ease that burden? I suppose I know the answer to that already since I have seen all the Prior of a descended this and Living God of a descended that around on Main. Time heals such wounds.