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It holds NAQ and NAQ only, if you start making it hold resources of other types people will start crying how unfair the powerful alliances are even stronger now, im sure whatever admin puts in place for the naq to be used for will be good, or he could make it like chaos and you dont get the naq back, the 1% is just the price you pay for having protection from an alliance.

cash , checks, letters , stocks, and many can be used in bank. So why not allow turns and uu in bank ?

unitedabominations wrote:cash , checks, letters , stocks, and many can be used in bank. So why not allow turns and uu in bank ?

If naq cannot be removed from the bank by anyone including the leader for personal use then what is the point in suggesting we use the bank for ATs and UU when they can't be used?

Naq is the only possible resource that can be used in this type of bank.

Unless Admin J have a great idea about what we going to do with the bank, having a bank u cannot take out naq is worthless, pointless, not needed. Also... he should add turns and uu, many alliances have tax about uu and turns, so it could be a great help for alliances dont u think ?
As i said, its just an idea.

SuperSaiyan wrote:I think that the leader should be able to send the naquadah to a member of the alliance

And to combat the abuse argument, why would you be in an alliance with a leader that can't be trusted?

LOL anyone can break a bond of trust, please don't be so naive.

A leader waits for several tril in the bank then uses it to increase their covert level and bam it's gone. Yeah the rest of the alliance can take action against them but they can't take away the covert lvl.

I agree with what the person on top of me just said

clarkey wrote:

unitedabominations wrote:cash , checks, letters , stocks, and many can be used in bank. So why not allow turns and uu in bank ?

If naq cannot be removed from the bank by anyone including the leader for personal use then what is the point in suggesting we use the bank for ATs and UU when they can't be used?

Naq is the only possible resource that can be used in this type of bank.

Then make it a bank for real and not the abuse of what it is... it takes your naq and gives u NOTHING... i wouldnt bank in real life with that kind of crap conditions.

unitedabominations wrote:

clarkey wrote:

unitedabominations wrote:cash , checks, letters , stocks, and many can be used in bank. So why not allow turns and uu in bank ?

If naq cannot be removed from the bank by anyone including the leader for personal use then what is the point in suggesting we use the bank for ATs and UU when they can't be used?

Naq is the only possible resource that can be used in this type of bank.

Then make it a bank for real and not the abuse of what it is... it takes your naq and gives u NOTHING... i wouldnt bank in real life with that kind of crap conditions.

Your so pathetic. You know damn well that there will be a facility to use the naq in the bank when Admin gets around to it.

Admin stated from the start that the bank would be used later, but whatever he puts in place should cost alot, ( trillions )

Maybe bonuses to the alliance like 5trill naq gives our alliance a 10% UU boost for a day, things like that, or ever lasting bonus like, ( 20 trill naq ) adds 1% UU production to each aliance member, or income production to each alliance member, but if you leave alliance you dont keep it.

you are thinking to small

i think upgrades should

cost

50 tril

100 tril

200 tril

500 tril etc..........

they need to come up with something that the first page alliance are unable to you know buy it all in first week, lol

even the latest tech upgrades were 2 cheap

he really needs to go, okay and make something cost over 100 tril or something but it needs to be good!

311 [TA] wrote:you are thinking to small

i think upgrades should

cost

50 tril

100 tril

200 tril

500 tril etc..........

they need to come up with something that the first page alliance are unable to you know buy it all in first week, lol

So then the page 10+ alliances would take 1+ years to buy???

In all seriousness, what's the point of having an alliance bank?
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You make alliance upgrades too costly, then the big alliances will be significantly stronger and the smaller alliances will remain much weaker.
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You make alliance upgrades too cheap, then everyone has the upgrades and what's the point of having them because everything will be relative to their current stats.

For example :
If alliance 1 has y power
alliance 2 has 10y power
both have same number of cheap upgrades adding say... 25% bonus
1.25(y)
1.25(10y)
Alliance 2 is still 10 times more powerful than alliance 1.
Pointless upgrades to just add zeroes in total power and have same results in my opinion.
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Just allow alliance banks to distribute funds as they see fit and be done with it... otherwise disable alliance bank.

1.deposit naq into the bank.
2.Log created for all transactions of the bank
3.Bank naq can only be transferred to a member of the alliance
4.Alliance bank can be used as the "reward holder" for alliance wars
5.special upgrades for members
6.Off uu income dif upgrade for the would alliance

Alliance upgrades are a good idea but what’s the point some alliances don’t go to war much and when they do they pick a week alliance to attack and still what’s the point of alliance upgrades now I can see a good thing going if the alliance can buy special upgrades for members like better dif or off or fleets exc.
Sure it’s a nice thing to have a advantage at an alliance war but there should be a choice to it attack dif income depending on the alliances position as a group like. Alliance A want’s to attack alliance B so they buy off upgrades to gain an advantage over there dif in the mists alliance C is buy uu and income upgrades taking advantage of the conflict as a break the bank should be for the alliance to use during war to make it easier to attack and not worry about finding farms to pay for weapons repair.
If there are upgrades at all it should go to the members and smaller alliances should get it cheaper
Because they are small or just get a cheaper higher upgrade that’s say 15-30 more powerful then normal depending on the size but go’s down as the members get more powerful and numerous

rdr

MaxSterling wrote:If alliance 1 has y power
alliance 2 has 10y power
both have same number of cheap upgrades adding say... 25% bonus
1.25(y)
1.25(10y)
Alliance 2 is still 10 times more powerful than alliance 1.
Pointless upgrades to just add zeroes in total power and have same results in my opinion.
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isnt this the same as the MS tech update? i mean really?

Lore wrote:

MaxSterling wrote:If alliance 1 has y power
alliance 2 has 10y power
both have same number of cheap upgrades adding say... 25% bonus
1.25(y)
1.25(10y)
Alliance 2 is still 10 times more powerful than alliance 1.
Pointless upgrades to just add zeroes in total power and have same results in my opinion.
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isnt this the same as the MS tech update? i mean really?

His point was the update eventually will be something like this, and thus pointless.


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Right,

The bank in my opinion should be made like this.

1. Any member of the Alliance can deposit naq straight into the Alliance bank, also keep the 1% income deposit but it should be made selectable from 1-5% and made as an option to have on or off.
2. The leader / dep. leader only can access bank commands other than deposit.
3. The bank can direct send the naqudah to one of its members to go right into the open.
4. Their is a log of all bank activites which can be viewed by all members.
5. Their can be any future Alliance upgrades put in for the leader/2IC to purchase, one of these can be a 10% increase to base bank size.
6. The bank isnt unlimited, it is based on the average of every members bank, so itll have the average base bank size + the average % increase to give a total Alliance average bank size. So basically not very big at all for an Alliance to be able to store naqudah, merely useable for some Alliance programmes (Easy with log to see who donated to it) and any future later upgrades to Alliance.
-This means the bank size is easy to increase, members simply increase the size of their banks.
7. If the amount banked is over the maximum, i,e bank was full them someone sold off 5 mil uu, the excess is then treated like in a normal bank it starts to seep out into the open equally distributed through members.
8. The Alliance features other than withdraw + send to player only exist over 5+ members, this means that a lone wolf cant make a 1 man alliance and double his bank size with a second bank. He'd have to use 5 similar accounts, in which case its an alliance, or 5 100k Multis in which case his extra bank space is a 5th of his current one and tbh where the point in that.

I think this if the fairest/best/most useful way of using this update, and deosnt really give any disadvantage to lone wolfs.