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Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 10:57 am
by Chris M
Draleg wrote:thx to the mecaniks of ascention i got bent over again , and again and again ....
srry for posting this here but i had to get this off my chest.
someone just hit me with " Destroy Military " and he took out 1 bil planets , ok no problem , its part of the game.
my Influence Power befor was 21 now its 70 , ok still no big deal , i wil catch up again , oh but wait , i wont , befor i got hit i made 32 mil planets a day and now i make 40 mil a day , you do the maths , i'm going to have to play an other 3 years ( i did actualy not do the maths ) to get back ware i was , ok i hear you say , its that way for everyone , so wat , i put in a lot of work to get my Cosmic Expansion Rate to 190,633,044 planet / day and now its actually totaly ussless .
And dont get started about " give the new ppl a chance " if Jason simply makes ascending more profitable as the game gets older they can catch up and we that have played longer wold mabe get a fair chance of actually bouncing back after getting massed.
I know there wil be different veuws on this topic and thats your perogitive , just keep it clean and spamfree .
Ur not the first person to say this and you wont be the last. I hope things change but not simply because you want it to (as in someone big coming in causing changes when others' pleas are overlooked)
That being said i used to have a top 20 account, now in size im struggling to get inside top 40 and stay there. Not that im bothered, i achieved what i wanted to before and now i willingly destroy my planets to take others away. rank is meaningless up there now and having more planets isnt even worthwhile with snipers style fight available as they are.
Ascended has been a joke a long time, i dont see any quick fixes.
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:06 am
by Tyveris
Borek wrote:You're missing the point Jim...
its life jim but not as we know it!
im a doctor not a bricklayer!!!
sorry i just coulodnt help myself
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:24 am
by ARC_trooper
Ascension just sucks, heres a tip: Dont get over the 2 bil barrier
I am trying to stay under it lol, i can bounce back really fast to the 2 bil since i have the full support of my UP lol (however small it is compared to yours lol)
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:09 pm
by repli**cator
reset main and ascension !
or you can all start warring each other...
you ppl just don't war enough, what's the point in getting insane army size and not using them...
we all just need to destroy ourselves
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:15 pm
by Borek
repli**cator wrote:reset main and ascension !
or you can all start warring each other...
you ppl just don't war enough, what's the point in getting insane army size and not using them...
we all just need to destroy ourselves
that's the problem, once you get past the raiding cap you've only got UP to increase army size with, so if you get massed you only have UP to recover with, whereas a smaller enemy can just raid or buy their losses back. So there is no incentive at all for the big accounts to actually go to war, in fact there is every reason for them to protect what they have already got.
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:22 pm
by RepliMagni
Borek wrote:repli**cator wrote:reset main and ascension !
or you can all start warring each other...
you ppl just don't war enough, what's the point in getting insane army size and not using them...
we all just need to destroy ourselves
that's the problem, once you get past the raiding cap you've only got UP to increase army size with, so if you get massed you only have UP to recover with, whereas a smaller enemy can just raid or buy their losses back. So there is no incentive at all for the big accounts to actually go to war, in fact there is every reason for them to protect what they have already got.
The flip side is that its mutually assured destruction - you'd ensure you'd cripple your enemy, even if it took you down too
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:46 pm
by nobodyhere
Borek wrote:repli**cator wrote:reset main and ascension !
or you can all start warring each other...
you ppl just don't war enough, what's the point in getting insane army size and not using them...
we all just need to destroy ourselves
that's the problem, once you get past the raiding cap you've only got UP to increase army size with, so if you get massed you only have UP to recover with, whereas a smaller enemy can just raid or buy their losses back. So there is no incentive at all for the big accounts to actually go to war, in fact there is every reason for them to protect what they have already got.
my solution for the 1 quadrillionth time???
remove all caps and raiding and let the small accounts cry like babies...
wa wa wa i cant catch the big boys...wa wa wa, will take me forever to catch a mid sized player...wa wa wa...its people moaning that has caused this mess in the first place and i was telling people 2 years ago to stop moaning but people told me i didn't know what i was talking about and this update and that cap would make things better...
i really didn't want to say it but...i told ya so!
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:47 pm
by bebita
main is fine
i come very late in game and i am almost there
ascend have problems but i am sure admin is thinking to solve the problems
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:48 pm
by bebita
STOP MOANING AND PLAY
for replicator tipe
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:49 pm
by Skunky
SVaRuN wrote:We are being bullied by the little guys up there
Now you know how it feels for the little people on main
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:50 pm
by bebita
and if i am thinking better ascend is fine
there is the chance for litlle guys to touch the big guns
they have bigger up they can destroy more easy
if last summer ascend had 500 players that played the game i am sure now is played by triple amount maybe more
is not a important server is a alternate for main server for fun
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:57 pm
by Borek
nobodyhere wrote:Borek wrote:repli**cator wrote:reset main and ascension !
or you can all start warring each other...
you ppl just don't war enough, what's the point in getting insane army size and not using them...
we all just need to destroy ourselves
that's the problem, once you get past the raiding cap you've only got UP to increase army size with, so if you get massed you only have UP to recover with, whereas a smaller enemy can just raid or buy their losses back. So there is no incentive at all for the big accounts to actually go to war, in fact there is every reason for them to protect what they have already got.
my solution for the 1 quadrillionth time???
remove all caps and raiding and let the small accounts cry like babies...
wa wa wa i cant catch the big boys...wa wa wa, will take me forever to catch a mid sized player...wa wa wa...its people moaning that has caused this mess in the first place and i was telling people 2 years ago to stop moaning but people told me i didn't know what i was talking about and this update and that cap would make things better...
i really didn't want to say it but...i told ya so!
Removing all caps and raiding only works in a resetting game, you just can't have an unlimited growth rate in an open-ended game. of course anyone with a brain knows that...
Make it a resetting game and i got no problem with your suggestions, but you'll have to remove trading between players too otherwise it'll just become stargatetraders.
As for whether or not a reset is in order than we all know it is, even most of the big players would probably admit it's a good idea.
IMO it needs to become a resetting game with a "win scenario", something that would take a good 18 months-2 yrs to achieve though, and that doesn't mean one of Jason's "it'll take 2 years" that actually takes 6 months due to the usual underestimation of players talents
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:09 pm
by Legendary Apophis
No reset.
Rather keep that huge raid cap than delete it.
What I expected came, the "let's bring it to 400mil didn't take long to come!"!
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 1:17 pm
by Castiel
SVaRuN wrote:1. thing pergatory ppl and ppl without main acounts cannot attack on ascension that would be the first thing I would do...
2. then I would do some serious increase in weps cost...so weps wouldnt be easy to buy just like in main...
3. Then I would decrease the power of assassinating...
4. Plague needs to be fixed
Totally 111% agree
Re: unfair ? why dont you dicide
Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 2:20 pm
by Demon Eater
k poeple lets all take a break
lets all sit down an have cookies and milk
an on topic even tho i have no idea what u guys are tlaking about lol
i sat REMOVE EVERYTHING ON ASCENDED get rid of the CAPS
