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Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:47 pm
by ~Massin4Christ~
Robe wrote:
Kikaz wrote:It went beyond talking, there was massing done to Ares in that conversation, I honestly dont care if this makes FUALL look bad or not, and I dont see how this makes ME look 'low'. I simpily posted this as a warning to the three alliances you mentioned in that conversation that YOU guys wanted to drag into the war.


Their may have been Task Force members IN the conversation but it was surely entirely FUALL participating in it.


Kikaz is correct. No members of the Task Force instigated this conversation, were actively involved in this conversation or massed any of the specified alliances or their members because they are deemed outside the war.

I am also glad he posted to avoid any current or future confusion.


Wrong...

8/18/2008 9:05:03 PM From:Arkangel13 To:killtacular, "DDE" mr bebita, [ALPHA][c=4]Corey[/c], [AB]Kikaz, [DoO] Austin Powell [c=57](MFC)[/c], [ Ω Allegiance ] Ferra | Azrael qacol says hes in

Instigating... They were acting like they wanted to help... Instigating that is!

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:01 pm
by mikgamer1
Any FUALL posting in this topic are just attention seekers. They may not care about the subject at hand but they do care to have as many talk about them as possible.

Thus is the reason I ignore 99% of thier posts. I bother to only slightly acknowledge them when stealing good ammounts of thier naq which i've done a good job of doing so far :lol:.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:03 pm
by Robe
~MassinForChrist~ wrote:
Robe wrote:
Kikaz wrote:It went beyond talking, there was massing done to Ares in that conversation, I honestly dont care if this makes FUALL look bad or not, and I dont see how this makes ME look 'low'. I simpily posted this as a warning to the three alliances you mentioned in that conversation that YOU guys wanted to drag into the war.


Their may have been Task Force members IN the conversation but it was surely entirely FUALL participating in it.


Kikaz is correct. No members of the Task Force instigated this conversation, were actively involved in this conversation or massed any of the specified alliances or their members because they are deemed outside the war.

I am also glad he posted to avoid any current or future confusion.


Wrong...

8/18/2008 9:05:03 PM From:Arkangel13 To:killtacular, "DDE" mr bebita, [ALPHA][c=4]Corey[/c], [AB]Kikaz, [DoO] Austin Powell [c=57](MFC)[/c], [ Ω Allegiance ] Ferra | Azrael qacol says hes in

Instigating... They were acting like they wanted to help... Instigating that is!


Qacol left the Task Force a while ago and is now running his own alliance.
He is a free agent massing anyone he chooses.
This is well documented in the main war thread.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:05 pm
by qacol
Yes I was going to help mass some people- members of the group needed recon I spied the targets for them posted the stats and was on stand by- I did not hit anybody because I changed my mind.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:18 pm
by ~Massin4Christ~
Huh?

This post was made by Mikgamer who is currently on your ignore list. Display this post.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:23 pm
by Noobert
Mikgamer wrote:Any FUALL posting in this topic are just attention seekers. They may not care about the subject at hand but they do care to have as many talk about them as possible.

Thus is the reason I ignore 99% of thier posts. I bother to only slightly acknowledge them when stealing good ammounts of thier naq which i've done a good job of doing so far :lol:.


Sorry, but I doubt anyone cares about anything said from a person who uses a racist sig on a forum, and you call US attention seekers. Perhaps you should go draw another sig like the one you did before. See how fast it gets you banned this time.

Have a great day. :-)

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:20 am
by Robe
Please avoid name calling and try to stay on topic.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:47 am
by zeekomkommer
Mikgamer wrote:Any FUALL posting in this topic are just attention seekers. They may not care about the subject at hand but they do care to have as many talk about them as possible.

Thus is the reason I ignore 99% of thier posts. I bother to only slightly acknowledge them when stealing good ammounts of thier naq which i've done a good job of doing so far :lol:.


and you are seeking atention by posting this

war will not expand unless either TTF HC or FUALL HC descide to get other alliances involved, only those members can give the order to go to war with another alliance (unless war is declared upon them)

so regular members wanting more targets and defences to kill is nothing to be concerned about or should be tought as something that will happen. if a HC member of either party says they will do it then that is an entirely different mather ...

and seeing that there were no HC members present of either faction on could say this is all just propaganda

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:16 am
by Severian
zeekomkommer wrote:
Mikgamer wrote:Any FUALL posting in this topic are just attention seekers. They may not care about the subject at hand but they do care to have as many talk about them as possible.

Thus is the reason I ignore 99% of thier posts. I bother to only slightly acknowledge them when stealing good ammounts of thier naq which i've done a good job of doing so far :lol:.


and you are seeking atention by posting this

war will not expand unless either TTF HC or FUALL HC descide to get other alliances involved, only those members can give the order to go to war with another alliance (unless war is declared upon them)

so regular members wanting more targets and defences to kill is nothing to be concerned about or should be tought as something that will happen. if a HC member of either party says they will do it then that is an entirely different mather ...

and seeing that there were no HC members present of either faction on could say this is all just propaganda


Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
who were we thinking of dragging in?

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
well i say who ever but i cant really do it 2nite 2moz is fine

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
i would say Ares

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
ares cause they are a new alliance on the block and need to be tested


Ares were hit. REK, commander of DDE accepted/confirmed the surrender of one of their members on an official war surrender thread.

Thats a HC of an OE branch and the leader of DDE, not to mention other high ranking members who have posted on this thread agreeing with the strikes and showing no interest in reeling their members in/telling them off/otherwise.

So no, its not properganda.

Alliances were suggested, one was hit and sanctioned by a HC member while an empire leader is posting left right and centre on forums that he wants to include and intends on including other allinaces in this server war. Those suggested should be made aware of the possible threats to their allinaces and considering that members were hit, this is a valid thread.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:29 am
by deni
Severian wrote:
zeekomkommer wrote:
Mikgamer wrote:Any FUALL posting in this topic are just attention seekers. They may not care about the subject at hand but they do care to have as many talk about them as possible.

Thus is the reason I ignore 99% of thier posts. I bother to only slightly acknowledge them when stealing good ammounts of thier naq which i've done a good job of doing so far :lol:.


and you are seeking atention by posting this

war will not expand unless either TTF HC or FUALL HC descide to get other alliances involved, only those members can give the order to go to war with another alliance (unless war is declared upon them)

so regular members wanting more targets and defences to kill is nothing to be concerned about or should be tought as something that will happen. if a HC member of either party says they will do it then that is an entirely different mather ...

and seeing that there were no HC members present of either faction on could say this is all just propaganda


Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
who were we thinking of dragging in?

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
well i say who ever but i cant really do it 2nite 2moz is fine

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
i would say Ares

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
ares cause they are a new alliance on the block and need to be tested


Ares were hit. REK, commander of DDE accepted/confirmed the surrender of one of their members on an official war surrender thread.

Thats a HC of an OE branch and the leader of DDE, not to mention other high ranking members who have posted on this thread agreeing with the strikes and showing no interest in reeling their members in/telling them off/otherwise.

So no, its not properganda.

Alliances were suggested, one was hit and sanctioned by a HC member while an empire leader is posting left right and centre on forums that he wants to include and intends on including other allinaces in this server war. Those suggested should be made aware of the possible threats to their allinaces and considering that members were hit, this is a valid thread.



LOL


zeekomkommer wrote:
and you are seeking atention by posting this

war will not expand unless either TTF HC or FUALL HC descide to get other alliances involved, only those members can give the order to go to war with another alliance (unless war is declared upon them)

so regular members wanting more targets and defences to kill is nothing to be concerned about or should be tought as something that will happen. if a HC member of either party says they will do it then that is an entirely different mather ...

and seeing that there were no HC members present of either faction on could say this is all just propaganda




Dear Severian, learn to read before replying ... it helps ;)


1. Being Delta HC does not mean you are in FUALL HC
2. The Ares member in question was part of the TJP/FUALL war, thats why he surrendered

you should know your own members Severian

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:41 am
by REK
LoL the kiddies are still crying ....

anyways I dont care about FUALL or TJP I care about my peoples which is DDE and OE :P ponder that

seriously why is epic god in TJP???? thats caprica ... once a cheat always a cheat a self confessed cheat at that too :D

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:59 am
by 12agnar0k
Ragnarok28 wrote:Mate. I had a lot of respect for you MassinforChrist. We used to be the best of friend in sgw when we both only had 1 mil army size.I'm quite disappointed in you that you were the one to propose massing AK ... which would mean massing me as well :(
oh well.. i guess that's why i don't have you on msn anymore lol

jason

This guys impersonating me and admin :-D

REK wrote:seriously why is epic god in TJP???? thats caprica ... once a cheat always a cheat a self confessed cheat at that too :D


Omg im at war with a cheat, you hear that everyone FS has a cheat on their side of the war, tisk tisk.

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:03 am
by Noobert
Difference between a alliance HC member, and a alliance HC decision. Let alone an 'empires' HC.

The decisions of one person in a HC position really means nothing as 99.9% of the time you need the full support of the Alliance HC before moving or else you will take unwanted flak for doing said 'thing'.

Now if you will excuse me, I am quiet tired of this drivel and am off to bed.

@Deni: You stole my massing pants, I want them back please. Kthx. :lol:

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:20 am
by Severian
deni wrote:
Severian wrote:
zeekomkommer wrote:
Mikgamer wrote:Any FUALL posting in this topic are just attention seekers. They may not care about the subject at hand but they do care to have as many talk about them as possible.

Thus is the reason I ignore 99% of thier posts. I bother to only slightly acknowledge them when stealing good ammounts of thier naq which i've done a good job of doing so far :lol:.


and you are seeking atention by posting this

war will not expand unless either TTF HC or FUALL HC descide to get other alliances involved, only those members can give the order to go to war with another alliance (unless war is declared upon them)

so regular members wanting more targets and defences to kill is nothing to be concerned about or should be tought as something that will happen. if a HC member of either party says they will do it then that is an entirely different mather ...

and seeing that there were no HC members present of either faction on could say this is all just propaganda


Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
who were we thinking of dragging in?

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
well i say who ever but i cant really do it 2nite 2moz is fine

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
i would say Ares

Charlie/Shornaal: Delta HC says:
ares cause they are a new alliance on the block and need to be tested


Ares were hit. REK, commander of DDE accepted/confirmed the surrender of one of their members on an official war surrender thread.

Thats a HC of an OE branch and the leader of DDE, not to mention other high ranking members who have posted on this thread agreeing with the strikes and showing no interest in reeling their members in/telling them off/otherwise.

So no, its not properganda.

Alliances were suggested, one was hit and sanctioned by a HC member while an empire leader is posting left right and centre on forums that he wants to include and intends on including other allinaces in this server war. Those suggested should be made aware of the possible threats to their allinaces and considering that members were hit, this is a valid thread.



LOL


zeekomkommer wrote:
and you are seeking atention by posting this

war will not expand unless either TTF HC or FUALL HC descide to get other alliances involved, only those members can give the order to go to war with another alliance (unless war is declared upon them)

so regular members wanting more targets and defences to kill is nothing to be concerned about or should be tought as something that will happen. if a HC member of either party says they will do it then that is an entirely different mather ...

and seeing that there were no HC members present of either faction on could say this is all just propaganda




Dear Severian, learn to read before replying ... it helps ;)


1. Being Delta HC does not mean you are in FUALL HC
2. The Ares member in question was part of the TJP/FUALL war, thats why he surrendered

you should know your own members Severian


1. This war started on your end with the excuse that Blahh represented his alliance (TDL), the empire he was in (TLE) and the faction (TJP).

Yet Blahh's actions were not condoned by our HC (TLE) and were not condoned by myself (TDL) as acting leader at the time nor the faction (TJP). We tried to stop him and discourage him but he chose his course of action.

Now you say that it doesn't matter that Shornal is HC, that because the FUALL HC didn't stamp its approval yet it doesn't matter and this thread doesn't matter/has no importance?

I'm seeing an absurd double standard here.

How about applying the same logic to all parties rather than having selective nobility and ethics whenever it is useful and then switching sides of the argument when it no longer serves your purposes?

Also:

- TSA
- YDE
- Slovenia United
- And now Ares

Were all heavily farmed, provoked and or massed to varying degrees and became involved in the war as a result of FUALL agression. You have set precedent many times in involving outside alliances without these "Officials" posting declarations of war on forums before your players acted. Nor did these "Officials" step in and tell them they weren't capable of starting a war or to back off. They were all too happy to join in instead without saying a word against it.

Now that you have a damaging PR issue on your hands, suddenly these "Officials" are required. More double standards and damage control but the fire's already burning :-)

Edit: @REK - Does that mean that ETL shouldn't be in FUALL for having Homer, Nuto & Others bank constantly for him back in the day? Once a cheater always a cheater as you say...or is this another of those double standard things FUALL are so fond of...

Re: FUALL's war expansion plans. (The Task Force)

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:42 am
by deni
Thank you for confirming that YDE is part of the Task Force or whatever you call it. And cause it seems that your memory is failing I want to remind you that it was YDE who declared war on DDE, not the other way around. They were offered a way out, they choose to decline it, so do me a favour and stop posting about matters you have no clue of, ok?

And if you still do not understand: this war started cause the NAP we had was de facto non existant considering the number of TLE members dropping tags for a few days and going on a farming spree and then accepted back in TLE with open arms. If you did not condone their actions, then you should not have accepted them back. At least we choose the honourable way of waging war as an alliance, instead of having a "task force" drop tags and do as you did.

This whole thread is a pathetic attempt at propaganda. Some people got on msn and were looking for someone to mass. Nothing more. If you see it as a "damaging PR issue", oh well ... I do not. Maybe you should stop caring only about PR but play the game?