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Yeah, but 50% is a tad too sick IMHO

BenjaminMS wrote:Yeah, but 50% is a tad too sick IMHO

I thought it was actually over 50% with max ascentions?

Lore wrote:

BenjaminMS wrote:Yeah, but 50% is a tad too sick IMHO

I thought it was actually over 50% with max ascentions?

yes, it is 57%

just remember though ... if you ascend with the minimum requirenents, it still costs you more then 250 mil uu and 200+ tril of naq just to get them ... and that does not include rebuilding after every ascension to get you in G+R range again

Nor does it include the year + you have to spend on ascending, which is frakked up.


I'm with the others on this one, 50% AB is too much. Wouldn't really be much of an issue if it did not take you a year to get it.

Bump..

the only thing i know is i remember my first ascension i had to have 2 mill trained supers in both attack and deffense to get there the farther i go the easier it is THATS FINE if i didn't think about the new guy who is just starting and will not get to gnr points without wasting his whole army to get to the bare minimum i like the idea of upgrades but to make the higher ascension that much more is out rageous it's not fair to the new people and it just makes the game more and more seperated i don't know if your gonna give up grades give simple extras a 20tril bonus in naq a 20 mil uu's or even a mothership bonus idk but to make the bonuses even more would make it more difficult for the newer players

If you are worried about new players, then just increase their one Stat bonus so they can compete better. Like give them like 30 or 40 percent or higher in the 1 stat.

I would say 40%. Simply becaise first ascention gives you 30% (overall) anyway

Edit: And improve the race bonuses. I remember attacking as a repli, and i recall over about 100 attacks i'd get like 1 unit back (though i'm not sure about increasing the asguard hologram thing)

WELL my say is this. if you change server to benefit ascending more then what the rules state now- that would be total BS and a ripOFF.

if u change anything make ascended more linked to main so u have to play both or if u do change anything u need to reimburse people that stopped because of your rules.

GeneralChaos wrote:

SuperSaiyan wrote:

GeneralChaos wrote:Why would you want to ascend more, its a waste of time, ascended server sucks, maybe you want it because you just got your 16th ascension and you want a big bonus.........

this update would make it not a waste of time

Of course it would, think of all the guys who are sitting with 300k+ RAW ups, covert lvl 32+ etc, because they stopped ascending because ASCENDED SERVER sucks, and only plays into sniper accounts hands......why would they want to throw it away for someone who only builds stats so they can ascend over and over,

Its a waste of time.

I agree with you on that. I stopped ascending after my 11th because I did not see the point in just getting another 1% bonus so just worked on my raw UP. I would like to ascend to the max but not now I have a high raw.
Yes, I could save enough uu to sell for after ascention to get my raw back to what it was but I would need to sell 225m uu and that is the reason why I wont ascend no matter how good the bonuses are.

The only way I would ascend is if we could keep our raw up, would be nice.

If we could all have a option by clicking a botton to save our raw up at the current time of us clicking to save it, then when we ascend we can click the botton again to get raw back as it was saved. Plus we can keep it saved for as many ascentions as we like and when ready we click to restore our raws but once restored once, thats it. After restoring saved raw, if we ascend, we have to redo our raw.

Then I will ascend, even for 1% bonus

Well Jason has seen fit to punish the older players by telling them ascention was over, but then raising the limit repeatedly. Allowing some to build massive RAW UP's and then changing the game. Many would have never built like they did had they known but we have all come to accept that.

Best thing that can be done now is to do ALL the ascentions as quickly as possible with base ascentions, and you can do them from the comfort of purg where you cant be massed if you like. Just gut your account out and destroy your years of work.

I'll start my ascention run around new years I think.

*grin* Part of that is easy to solve. Make it possible to sell off UP.

that would be an excellent idea. would you set it like fleets maybe where you get like half back upon selling?

Universe wrote:*grin* Part of that is easy to solve. Make it possible to sell off UP.

I 2nd that, great Idea

On another point: Why not stop ascension % increasing all stats.

Make it that on ascension, depending up "losses" from that ascension you get a point system to bolster % on either attack, defence or covert/anti.
Or, use it on base raw up (which does not disappear on ascension) so it is higher then normal after ascension

The game is getting stupid with all these ascensions, as that is all players do, which means jack to the ascended server which is dead.

Anyway, thats my rant and rave out of the way today, now wheres that Tok'ra

Lore wrote:Well Jason has seen fit to punish the older players by telling them ascension was over, but then raising the limit repeatedly. Allowing some to build massive RAW UP's and then changing the game. Many would have never built like they did had they known but we have all come to accept that.

Best thing that can be done now is to do ALL the ascensions as quickly as possible with base ascensions, and you can do them from the comfort of purg where you cant be massed if you like. Just gut your account out and destroy your years of work.

I'll start my ascension run around new years I think.

And by changing the rules -again- as Universe has suggested, you just punish those who then bit the bullet and ascended and yes my view is baised 'cos I did do a -massive- ascension but the point remains. Continually changing the rules just keep punishing those who tried to make the best of the rules as they were, even if they were biased.

IF you are going to do that -change the rules- then at least give compensation to those who were trying to do their best with the rules as they were.

If anything is to be done it has to be as Ark has suggested, link main and ascension more or actually make ascending worth while again because let's face it, right at the moment it's not worth it except for the main bonuses. It does jack all for your ascended account and that's wrong.

Maybe APP should be worth 1,000,000 life force to actually make it worth something again. Right at the moment APP is worth only the hassle of ascending. That would make the sacrifice of those who built up and then got proverbially screwed over actually WORTH something while those who decided to ascend with the minimums all the way to whichever ascension also get a bonus because the ever increasing cost of ascending would get them some return from the increase in APP rate.