Papers Please?

[Cole]

Seems like you just cut short your friendship with Lois Lane then. She agrees, after all. Thought you two were quite close.


Fyi, the opinion of one person from somewhere on the world doesn't really bother me either, so we're even. Perhaps it would have made a difference if the reader would be able to understand what you said, but that's mere hypothesis.

Oh now you are insulting my writing skills?
Didn't expect any better from you! Trying to attack writing skills..lol at you! Just proves where you stand.

And fyi, when I said whoever, that could include my family as well. I have nothing to do with people as ignorant as that.
This speech is an insult to me. Nothing more nothing less. What your speech said, middleclass are scum and upper class are almighty. What a load of bs. Everyone knows criminals come from every social class.

[[KMA]Avenger]

i can sort out both the poverty and crime over night, and if someone as uneducated as me can do it doesn't it make you wonder why govt seems unable to do it or at the very least, get a grip on them both?

[Cole]

I think I'm going to give up debates.
In past, in those forums, debates were interesting. There was people with things to say, not theories coming from no idea where. I remember when I debated with republicans and democrats about some things. It was interesting. It was not water vs fire, ying vs yang, hell vs heaven (metaphoric sense of course).
Now, it's more or less Fox Mulders vs some foolish emperors style.
This is not directed at a particular person, but at almost everyone minus few.

When I read the stuff being said, I almost think that I might be special, while, instead, I'm more likely someone thinking like a good percentile of population. Let's say many centrists and some right wing people. Not like the rebels or anything like that.
I start to wonder what happend...

[[KMA]Avenger]

i HATE the x files!

tried to get into it but couldnt

[Cole]

i HATE the x files!

tried to get into it but couldnt

But, you are considered as a Fox Mulder in my books, Avenger...

A good society is one where extreme parties are forbidden in elections. Because, anyone with a bit of sense, knows that extremists, are a cause of menace to democracy.

[Demeisen]

i can sort out both the poverty and crime over night, and if someone as uneducated as me can do it doesn't it make you wonder why govt seems unable to do it or at the very least, get a grip on them both?

its not as easy as you might think. you could say when im in charge ill make them change this and change that but theres always the counter-effects of actions. running a nation of 60million individuals is hard. and would your way involve communism in any way?

x-files be fun

[[KMA]Avenger]

i HATE the x files!

tried to get into it but couldnt

But, you are considered as a Fox Mulder in my books, Avenger...

A good society is one where extreme parties are forbidden in elections. Because, anyone with a bit of sense, knows that extremists, are a cause of menace to democracy.

awwww...i lubs you to jimbo

i can sort out both the poverty and crime over night, and if someone as uneducated as me can do it doesn't it make you wonder why govt seems unable to do it or at the very least, get a grip on them both?

its not as easy as you might think. you could say when im in charge ill make them change this and change that but theres always the counter-effects of actions. running a nation of 60million individuals is hard. and would your way involve communism in any way?

x-files be fun

nope, the first thing i would do even before walking into the PM's office and sitting in the PM's chair is to declare the bank of england an illegal institute and march the police on them and arrest the whole board and make sure they get locked up and walled in till the end of days!

step 2...issue govt backed debt free notes and freeze all prices until i get an audit on the every aspect of the cost of living. if the treasury can issue bonds then they can issue money, both are a promise to pay.

step 3...close the boarders and get the army home where i would disband the standing army as there is no need for it other than to wage war.

step 4 (or maybe step 1 ) find somewhere to hide cuz no doubt they will try and have me assassinated

i know its not as simple as i make it sound but thats it in a nutshell.

[Cole]

Nothing wrong Avenger in being a Fox Mulder...when the conspiracy tends to be true, otherwise...well let's say it's bit sounding like propaganda on those forums!

And btw, the kind of speech I fight here, wouldn't even come from right wing extremists' mouth...they are too moderate to say such things!

[Kit-Fox]

my didnt we go off-topic for a while and take one hell of a tangent.

Anywho for those who still believe in facial recognition, plrease read the following

http://www.uk-airport-news.info/manches ... 051008.htm

enjoy

[Juliette]

"believe" in facial recognition?
Beliefs are fixed. Ideas are flexible, as is science.
So okay, FRP makes mistakes at the moment. No one asked to have this program work on its own. Using five to six biometric scans and ID-cards or chips w/e one eliminates the error that, I will readily admit, is present in all forms of checks.

Btw, facial recognition will be perfected soon enough; just look at the graphics development in gaming. If you can mathematically describe a face so far that it cannot be distinguished from a real face, you're set for full-fledged facial recognition.
Of course, twins will have to be aborted.


The latter was sarcasm.

[Cole]

I think iris one is the best...not scary like chips, not fakeable like handprints, and hmm facial recognition using a mask think about it

As for DNA...who knows...cloning could exist and make it unuseful.

[Demeisen]

nope, the first thing i would do even before walking into the PM's office and sitting in the PM's chair is to declare the bank of england an illegal institute and march the police on them and arrest the whole board and make sure they get locked up and walled in till the end of days!

but you cant jus do that. you would need to put massive thought into any replacement before doing away with the current system. whats your problem with the bank of england? (btw thats an actual question i want answered. jus wondering. no theories please, only facts

step 2...issue govt backed debt free notes and freeze all prices until i get an audit on the every aspect of the cost of living. if the treasury can issue bonds then they can issue money, both are a promise to pay.

if you freeze all prices wouldnt loads of business go under? if their costs go up and they have to sell at a set price. . .

it could be more sensible to freeze some prices such as for essential goods and subsidize the freeze by raising the price of luxury goods (goods that only the rich buy and would continue to buy)?

step 3...close the boarders and get the army home where i would disband the standing army as there is no need for it other than to wage war.

closing the borders would be a good thing to do for a short while to get things under control. but its hard to deny asylum due to out international commitments. when the borders are reopened they should be more controlled.

a standing army is essential. would you leave us defenceless if iran decided to attack in the future? if russia decided to flex its muscles? the uk couldnt sit at the worlds top table without a capable military. would your disarmament include our nuclear deterrent? doing so puts the uk out of the great powers and relegates us to the list of countries who cannot stop a nuclear aggressor. the deterrent is jus that. without it other nations could attack knowing we couldnt respond in kind. it may be fine for a while but i believe it would leave the future generations vulnerable and thats unforgivable. you never know what might happen.

also, disbanding the army would instantly place 1/4 million (at least!) people out of work. with that many trained soldiers unemployed there would be huge repercussions.

one thing i would do with our armed forces is have a zero tolerance policy. if we are attacked or directly threatened we take the gloves off and strike hard. id gradually withdraw from iraq/afganistan depending on the situation on the ground. if we dont have the ability to attack rogue states they will not fear the consequences of any terrible actions they take. id increase diplomacy with rogue states to solve more things peacefully. the military threat of the uk armed forces would bring these states to the table and make them more open to dialogue. uk says to iran ''dont build nukes'' iran says ''or what?'' uk says ''er''

id make it compulsory for all children to join the beavers then the army cadet force(or air cadets/sea cadets/CCF) this is not to train them in fighting or anything sinister. it would teach respect and would build good character within our youth. the cadet force would do many other things also such as study for qualifications, go on trips, do sport, community projects etc. i believe that this will start to mend the violent culture among our youth. your thoughts on this paragraph?

step 4 (or maybe step 1 ) find somewhere to hide cuz no doubt they will try and have me assassinated

hire the A-TEAM

i know its not as simple as i make it sound but thats it in a nutshell. nothing ever is as simple in reality as on paper

my didnt we go off-topic for a while and take one hell of a tangent.

Anywho for those who still believe in facial recognition, plrease read the following

yup i think we did, but in a constructive, related way

and i read the linked article. it clearly states its a monitored trial. the technology is advancing. eventually once the cards are out for a while they tech will most likely be 'perfected' as lois said. the transition between worrking and working perfectly can be managed like the self service checkouts such as they have in asda now. they have many self-use checkouts and one employee monitoring them. you can have many facial recognition devices with one person watching over them. after all a human is the best security as they see things a computer might miss.

I think iris one is the best...not scary like chips, not fakeable like handprints, and hmm facial recognition using a mask think about it

As for DNA...who knows...cloning could exist and make it unuseful.

lol the iris one is good but id be scared someone would steal my eye. a combination of bio-tests would be best (fingerprint, iris, facial recognition).

hmmm if cloning is used in the future that could make checks hard. but even genetic twins are distinguishable from each other in ways. theres another clever technology coming as well. it recognises the way a person walks and can pick them out. believe it or not but a persons walk is quite unique to them. although someone may be able to moonwalk through all kind scrutiny with that one

[[KMA]Avenger]

i think this discussion is developing into a topic in its own right. in order to avoid polluting this thread further i will make a new topic later on today where we can discuss it further and i can give a more detailed response.

ok with you?

[Cole]

lol liquid, I don't think an eye is the same when it's out of body, as when it's still in. (needs confirmation)

Lmao...decrease army and drop nuclear arsenal?
If you decrease army, then make them be elites, it would still be ok then.
But getting rid of nuclear, no no that is! Humanity is (sadly) not enough good to enable free countries to drop defenses.

[Demeisen]

true to eye would probably get fubar if removed *winces*

a Legendary point Apophis. long-term free countries are mostly as they are because they can defend their freedom from foreign control.

i think this discussion is developing into a topic in its own right. in order to avoid polluting this thread further i will make a new topic later on today where we can discuss it further and i can give a more detailed response.

ok with you?

yep its all good. lol maybe 'how i would rule the world'