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Deaths_Rider wrote:he's saying you will inbreed and have deformed children some of which won't have ears

Deaths_Rider wrote:while inbreeding isn't always harmfull it is never benaficial as it won't improve your genetics just reuse them so if there is a flaw it's more likely to be shown.

Deaths_Rider wrote:i think the answer you were looking for is that the human genetics degrade with time so back at the time of the flood the genetics were much stronger less defects less chance of deformetiys. at least thats the only theory i've heard of to explain it in an even remotley plausable way

Thriller wrote:The bottom line here is you have zero physical evidence for this world wide flood event happening during the time period you believe it took place. The only thing you accept as truth are writings by a bunch of individuals who sought control over their populous.

Your belief nemesis that this event happened is affront to the physical laws of the universe, and the fact you believe it despite an over whelming lack of evidence supporting your theory along with an over whelming mountain of evidence that disproves the it, is like spitting in gods face.

Mister Sandman wrote:

Thriller wrote:The bottom line here is you have zero physical evidence for this world wide flood event happening during the time period you believe it took place. The only thing you accept as truth are writings by a bunch of individuals who sought control over their populous.

Your belief nemesis that this event happened is affront to the physical laws of the universe, and the fact you believe it despite an over whelming lack of evidence supporting your theory along with an over whelming mountain of evidence that disproves the it, is like spitting in gods face.

You need evidence for the great flood?
Here I go:
* Sea originating fossils have been found at high altitudes of every continent.

* The oldest known living trees, Bristlecone Pines in California, are close to 5000 years old. This would coincide with the recovery of the earth after the flood.

* The Origin of Civilization appeared near the resting place of the Ark at about the same time that the flood occurred.

* Geologist classify rock formations by the type of rock they contain. A layer of the same type of rock is called a stratum. Many scientist believe that certain types of stratum originated in certain time periods such as the Eocene, Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous periods of time. There are many places on the earth where the order of these strata in reversed. Examples of this are the Matterhorn and Mythen peaks in the Alps. The order of the strata has been completely reversed in respect to the earth around it. Though many explanations have been offered for this phenomenon, the castestrophic effects of a flood as described in the Bible is still the best explanation.

* Sedimentary deposits cover large parts of the earth. These are the type of deposits that result from movement of water.

* An analysis of 30,000 radiocarbon dating results published in the "Radiocarbon" journal shows an unmistakable spike in the death of living things about 5,000 years ago.

* Fossils of once living organisms have been found in places not suitable for their habitat:
* In Lincoln County, Wyoming fossils have been found of an alligator, deep sea bass, sunfish, crustaceans, and palm leaves. Obviously these would not grow well in Wyoming's climate. It also suggest that at one time Wyoming was covered water. The fossils of the life found in this vicinity are very well preserved indicating a fast burial and preservation.
* The Florissant, Colorado fossil beds contain fossilized insects that are preserved remarkably well. In addition, the remains of giant sequoia trees have been found here. The sequoia trees and many of the types of insects do not exist in this region today.

* (1)Volcanic rocks are found interbedded with sedimentary rocks of all supposed geologic ages. This correlates with the Biblical implication that the "fountains of the great deep" poured out their contents throughout the flood (Genesis 8:2).

* (4)Radiometric dating performed on volcanic rocks from the erruption of Mount St. Helens in 1986 indicated that the rocks were between .34 million years to 2.8 million years old. This suggests that the rardiometric dating methods to determine the earth are at the best inaccurate.

* The shape of the continents hints that they may have been connected at one time. The fossil records of mountain ranges seem to indicate that the mountains were created by the collision of two continents. It is also noted that earthquakes are caused by movement of continents along fault lines. This supports the theory of plate tectonics. A catastophe such as a the Biblical flood would create enough force to rearrange continents. In fact a flood of these proportions easily becomes a "best fit" for the geological data that exist today.


Although scientific evidence does exist to support many aspects of the Bible, conclusive evidence may never exist to prove or disprove these events. There are so many variables and aspects of science it is easy to interpret the data in a manner pleasing to your desire. I'm sure that Noah had no way to prove his belief in God's word to him (only his family beleived him). But he found enough faith to work for 100 years to build a boat that people said he could not use. Scientific discussions may provide a spark of faith to believe the Bible. But, in reality, the choice of what to believe is based on faith. Some people have faith in science or mankind. Others put their faith in God and the real science of God.

Thriller wrote:lol what crack pot website did you dig that up from.

and you shouldn't post things you don't understand or i'll be forced to put all that crap back into context for you.

Patty Hughes wrote:Also on the two of every kind note... the gestation period of some mammals is extensive to say the least, the lack of vegetation after the flood would mean little or no food for herbivores, and the carnivores would hunt and kill the pairs until they themselves ran out of the already meager source of sustenance. Leaving humanity to starve and die.

Thriller wrote:The bottom line here is you have zero physical evidence for this world wide flood event happening during the time period you believe it took place. The only thing you accept as truth are writings by a bunch of individuals who sought control over their populous.

Your belief nemesis that this event happened is affront to the physical laws of the universe, and the fact you believe it despite an over whelming lack of evidence supporting your theory along with an over whelming mountain of evidence that disproves the it, is like spitting in gods face.

Thriller wrote:

Mister Sandman wrote:

Thriller wrote:The bottom line here is you have zero physical evidence for this world wide flood event happening during the time period you believe it took place. The only thing you accept as truth are writings by a bunch of individuals who sought control over their populous.

Your belief nemesis that this event happened is affront to the physical laws of the universe, and the fact you believe it despite an over whelming lack of evidence supporting your theory along with an over whelming mountain of evidence that disproves the it, is like spitting in gods face.

You need evidence for the great flood?
Here I go:
* Sea originating fossils have been found at high altitudes of every continent.

* The oldest known living trees, Bristlecone Pines in California, are close to 5000 years old. This would coincide with the recovery of the earth after the flood.

* The Origin of Civilization appeared near the resting place of the Ark at about the same time that the flood occurred.

* Geologist classify rock formations by the type of rock they contain. A layer of the same type of rock is called a stratum. Many scientist believe that certain types of stratum originated in certain time periods such as the Eocene, Triassic, Jurassic and Cretaceous periods of time. There are many places on the earth where the order of these strata in reversed. Examples of this are the Matterhorn and Mythen peaks in the Alps. The order of the strata has been completely reversed in respect to the earth around it. Though many explanations have been offered for this phenomenon, the castestrophic effects of a flood as described in the Bible is still the best explanation.

* Sedimentary deposits cover large parts of the earth. These are the type of deposits that result from movement of water.

* An analysis of 30,000 radiocarbon dating results published in the "Radiocarbon" journal shows an unmistakable spike in the death of living things about 5,000 years ago.

* Fossils of once living organisms have been found in places not suitable for their habitat:
* In Lincoln County, Wyoming fossils have been found of an alligator, deep sea bass, sunfish, crustaceans, and palm leaves. Obviously these would not grow well in Wyoming's climate. It also suggest that at one time Wyoming was covered water. The fossils of the life found in this vicinity are very well preserved indicating a fast burial and preservation.
* The Florissant, Colorado fossil beds contain fossilized insects that are preserved remarkably well. In addition, the remains of giant sequoia trees have been found here. The sequoia trees and many of the types of insects do not exist in this region today.

* (1)Volcanic rocks are found interbedded with sedimentary rocks of all supposed geologic ages. This correlates with the Biblical implication that the "fountains of the great deep" poured out their contents throughout the flood (Genesis 8:2).

* (4)Radiometric dating performed on volcanic rocks from the erruption of Mount St. Helens in 1986 indicated that the rocks were between .34 million years to 2.8 million years old. This suggests that the rardiometric dating methods to determine the earth are at the best inaccurate.

* The shape of the continents hints that they may have been connected at one time. The fossil records of mountain ranges seem to indicate that the mountains were created by the collision of two continents. It is also noted that earthquakes are caused by movement of continents along fault lines. This supports the theory of plate tectonics. A catastophe such as a the Biblical flood would create enough force to rearrange continents. In fact a flood of these proportions easily becomes a "best fit" for the geological data that exist today.


Although scientific evidence does exist to support many aspects of the Bible, conclusive evidence may never exist to prove or disprove these events. There are so many variables and aspects of science it is easy to interpret the data in a manner pleasing to your desire. I'm sure that Noah had no way to prove his belief in God's word to him (only his family beleived him). But he found enough faith to work for 100 years to build a boat that people said he could not use. Scientific discussions may provide a spark of faith to believe the Bible. But, in reality, the choice of what to believe is based on faith. Some people have faith in science or mankind. Others put their faith in God and the real science of God.

lol what crack pot website did you dig that up from.

and you shouldn't post things you don't understand or i'll be forced to put all that crap back into context for you.

Mister Sandman wrote:

Thriller wrote:lol what crack pot website did you dig that up from.

and you shouldn't post things you don't understand or i'll be forced to put all that crap back into context for you.

The website, is confered with other websites, book references and ect... it is crediable.

Why do you listen to your own wisdom? You shouldn't post things you don't understand or i'll be forced to put it into context for you.

Thriller wrote:YOu need to understand the facts of plate tectonics, The separations of land mass's over 100's of millions of years, How mountain ranges are formed and all the other crap that is taken way of of context. Everything you wrote jumps to the same conclusion without any supporting evidence; the bible flood is the best explanation, no it **Filtered** not. This is the typical out of context **Filtered** i riped apart in the evolution thread. Now your back at it again. Smashing your tiny head against a brick wall.

Of course parts of north America used to be underwater, lakes dry up, continents collide, climate changes....and it all took place over a few billion years.... but your ignorance will last your lifetime.

YOu need to understand the facts of plate tectonics, The separations of land mass's over 100's of millions of years, How mountain ranges are formed

riped apart in the evolution thread. Now your back at it again.

Of course parts of north America used to be underwater, lakes dry up, continents collide, climate changes....and it all took place over a few billion years.... but your ignorance will last your lifetime.

Mister Sandman wrote:Another note, please leave personal insults to yourself. I dont think anyone wants this tread to be locked again. [/color]

Deaths_Rider wrote: all the evidence about the age of the world, massive flood ect. is usless as it depends on your starting assumptions if you give the same facts to an old and new world advocate they will tell you how it proves thier view point and both would be wrong as you cant prove it from any individual bit of rock or land but both will continue to try and disprove the other as i'm sure you will both ignore me and carry on your mindless fued.