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Agapooka wrote:Who says I can't be Divine if I want to be? You don't have the right to deny me my divinity!!!

I would very much like to be a Dr of Divinity. I am interested in theology and the title is magnificent to boot!

As for Genocides... oh yes! They'd be an integral part of a new world order. They'd be a keen answer for removing some illnesses (I do believe as stated by Universe elsewhere), removing some idiots from the world, lazy louts... criminals... it goes on. Although..perhaps letting a misanthrope decide is a bad choice.

Everytime I hear about genocides, I'm tempted to join the other side, side of those who think Earth can perfectly handle its growing population and that nothing should be done to slow process. Or to not decrease freedom from some people because of their behaviour regarding society.
Infact, I'm tempted to return to my former position of two years ago. Even if I quite disagree with my former position. But, at least, that one wouldn't include a genocide.

Why turning a positive reforms topic into a negative one...

LMAO!

The one person pro-EU in all of this is asking why Genocide? Now i'm REAALY fused and lit!

Seriously man.

Why Genocide? Well my little friend, i would like to see your European Union succeed in bringing about the 4th Reich without a genocide or two! Or...i'm sorry, is the EU being the 4th Reich a contested point? If it is, i will gladly provide you with literally tonnes of historical facts which link the Pagan Pontifices of Ancient Rome who worshipped Babylonian Deities which can clearly be seen TODAY on European Union emblems. I can show these same Pagan Deities being symbolised ALL THROUGH history from the 1st Reich to the 3rd and i can (beyond shadow of a doubt) link the Popes (or "Pontifex Maximus" as they were once known) to each Reich. I can show you the Pagan Symbology of Babylonian Deities on Capitol Hill in The District of Columbia, in Vatican Square and on the bank of the River Thames. Damn it, even the name Capitol -
Know the etymology!! look!

Seriously. If you are Pro EU, and i can show you more incriminating evidence than your wits can imagine, you are looking towards at least one major genocide in the very near future. Their pagan gods demand it!

The Holy Roman Empire, which (and again) i can prove to you is, behind the european union needs a "Holocaust" to usher in every Reich. It is a burnt sacrifice to the god "Baal" (who, incidentally, is represented by a cross). The word Holocaust means "Burnt Whole". It was a popular endeavour throughout the Pagan world to worship Baal the sun god in this way and it corresponds to why Catholics depict Jesus on a cross. The Babylonians and Pagan Pontifeces of Ancient Rome would offer whole, burning, humans, nailed to crosses. The cross being the symbol of Baal. If the Holy Roman Empire, The Babylonian Sun Worshippers, could've gotten away with burning Jesus on the cross, they sure would have! They carry him round on a cross to celebrate his death, they are celebrating openly how they sacrificed a Jewish Messiah (albeit a disputed one) to Baal.

It is all researchable, it is all contained in very credible historical literature, in encyclopedias and in dictionaries.

The Treaty of Rome. Can we be less specific?

You really are showing critical signs of double think syndrome if you believe for one moment that the mandate of the european union is NOT genocide in some form or other, try reading The Georgia Standing Stone.

The EU's role in terms of reformation? Holocaust. Just like the previous 3 reforms The Holy Roman Empire has undertaken!

The EU needs LESS power NOT more.

-Goo™

I am, in fact, so very infused by your comment that (mostly for the benefit of those who wish to avoid "double think") i am going to point out exactly where you are "double thinking"!

Apophis The Great wrote:join the other side, side of those who think Earth can perfectly handle its growing population and that nothing should be done to slow process.

Nothing should be done to slow it's progress? What should be done? As per usual you have left out key parts of your argument, like, how is this slowing to be employed? I am therefore going to have to pressume you are in favour of some form of birth limitation? Right, how will this be administered? Again pressumably, you are going to choose some form of monetary validity? So those rich enough can have children? THIS IS GENOCIDE! You ARE double thinking! You think the Tuareg peoples will be able to afford to have children? What about the Hopi Indians? What about the Aboriginies? Limiting human reproduction on ANY premise is G E N O C I D E !

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

For goodness sake!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doublethink

-Goo™

well Goo, i've been telling people on these boards EXACTLY the same things you just have (albeit, not as eloquently and succinctly as you have in your last 2 posts) and i've been laughed at and ridiculed and labelled a "conspiracy theorist" and "tin-foil hat wearing nut".

i said it before (i stopped saying it because people are just not ready for the info, regardless of how important and relevant it is) and i'll say it again, our leaders are Satanists, occultists and down right evil, and couldn't give a crap about anyone except themselves.



EDIT:

http://www.prisonplanet.com/psychology- ... lness.html

MAN! its a good job people like us who know what's really going on in the world, dont't believe in Fairy's and leprechauns living at the bottom of the garden...we might really be sick in the head if we did

I'm afraid there's a certain has-to-happen-ness about it Avenger but don't worry, it's just the nature of the beast. There's not much you or i can do about the (naughty word that means lady of the night) of babylon except allow her, as she always does, all through history, to consume herself in her own flames. It is enough for you to find your own path through this coming time by simply knowing the underlying truth. We train ourselves to spot the symbols in our history so that we are ready when the time comes to weather the storm once again. It's called evolution Squire.

You see, ironically enough, we need these spiritual upheavals in the psyche to jump start our evolutionary juices - the ancient mystery schools knew this and have left clues in many cultures which have been untouched by the corrupt. Evil is never evil for evil's sake. What i mean by that is, positive and negative aspects of the psyche will always exist in flux. The flux is created when the darker aspects of the psyche are used to pervert the natural course of evolution. Nature is far more aware of this than we are - consider, it's like comparing champagne shook up inside the bottle; nature is the champagne and we are the cork or, quite simply, the champagne knows it's going to burst out before the cork does.

Corruption has been slowly building up again over recent years and shaking the old evolutionary champagne, sadly most of us (like the cork) are unaware of the shaking and consequently oblivious to the impending explosion.

Understanding what is inevitable is very important for a healthy mind, body and soul. Some people corrupt in the name of good and some corrupt in the name of bad, either way...it cannot last because of the incredible effort which is needed to hold back the evolution of a species.

All the messages left in history by the mystery schools and philosophy point at knowledge over power. The messages have little to do with rising from the dead to enter pearly gates with angelic accord (lol) they are simply yet more metaphors for the human pysche rising from the ashes (theology and mythology) or the mind revealing itself to itself (philosophy) as we move from one age to another. It's very scary, admittedly..but it's far more exciting, it's not like it happens often!

The reform is coming and i'm the last person to want to stop it, because i know what it is and it's essential, what is important is how you personally come upon the change, even as Nostradamus "predicted" this war would be a war for hearts and minds, not lands and properties. The temptation which is so very often spoken of in the "good" (God) books of our age is simply fear. The temptation to give in to fear, to listen to the fearmongers and shut out the information coming in, to stop listening to what your nature is telling you from deep within your very being. That is the reform we are truly headed for.

They think they have all the knowledge and all the power? I have two trump cards-
1. Power has to be relinquished before it can be weilded, they have no power over me, my mind is free.
2. How can "they" the Liars have knowledge of everything when they cannot possibly have knowledge of Love? A most essential human component which is impossible without Truth.
Because of these two fundamental human attributes (the freedom to know and love one's self) it doesn't matter what the powermongers are manifesting in the physical world because as long as you know yourself, they can never know you and they can never control you so ultimately their power is fleeting.

The Hopi Indians have a very good way of explaining what is happening in the world, much like i have attempted to explain. There's no need to waste valuable energy on trying to wake people up, the only true "prince" in this tale of sleeping beauty is yourself - we all come to the world naked and alone because it is in this manner we experience our first glimpse of pure and unhindered humanity.

Relax David, open your eyes.
This is a revolution of the mind
-Vanilla Sky

At the very least Matey, we'll have eachother for company in tinfoil-hat land....i'll bring the sandwiches, you bring the pop!

-Goo™

P.S. in a post a page or so ago i kept referring to "you" lol, in that post i was rather a little too passionate about getting my point across and was flippant with my personable perspectives - it was not directed, for the most part, at you!

And all of that will start in 2012...


That's probably why Baal was a focused character in Stargate isn't it? Being all important and all!
So Cliff Simon for president?

Apophis The Great wrote:So Cliff Simon for president?

I could actually see that work. As long as it is president of the world.. not some backwater country with delusions of imperial grandeur.

Apophis The Great wrote:And all of that will start in 2012...


That's probably why Baal was a focused character in Stargate isn't it?

Jim, regardless of what you or i believe, or what we think we know to be true, its what the elites believe to be true that you don't seem to understand.

we can all laugh a person for his beliefs, but when that other person has power over your nation, its leaders, money, food, economy and everything else, then you need to stop and look at what these animals actually believe in, what religion they hold to be true and which god/s they are praying to.

the signs of "their" religion and God surround us and yet, the VAST majority of people deny their senses and logic and instead choose to attack the messenger INSTEAD of looking at the message.

Jim, my opinion in all this doesn't matter, NOT 1 BIT, what matters is the opinion of "those" who have the power.

i can show you all their occult symbols that surround you but you would deny your own eyes, so i'll leave you to completely ignore what it is i am telling you so can go right ahead and attack me instead of looking the message.

Near enough yes, but i think the heart-throb you are looking for is called Georg Gaenswein and by the time he is elected it won't be "President" it will be Pontificus Maximus Sapientia...or something very like it.

-Goo™

I do NOT deny the symbols being here. I don't see why I would deny potential links with roman civilization.
What I do deny, is interpretation(s) about them.
World is all about interpretations. You can create an evil out of words.
I know of this, I've faced that. Being on the one then on the other side of interpretation of things.

It's like religious books. What is wrong isn't those books or religions, it's how some people interpret them for their own benefits of sadistic hate towards others. While other preachers would deliver another message.
You have the proves, they exist. But where things differ is, how you would interpret them.

Some would see the evil of all evils, while others wouldn't see much. It all depends of your perception. Now, who has the good interpretation, we will find out when things happen (or not).

If this is the path you choose Sir i would recommend a "steel umbrella" as standard - to deny some of what is representational of these symbols, especially the etymology of the word holocaust, is social suicide in most intellectual circles. That said, you are perfectly at liberty to see a nice lady on a cow where i see the anthropomorphism of the "antichrist".

-Goo™

GhostyGoo wrote:If this is the path you choose Sir i would recommend a "steel umbrella" as standard - to deny some of what is representational of these symbols, especially the etymology of the word holocaust, is social suicide in most intellectual circles. That said, you are perfectly at liberty to see a nice lady on a cow where i see the anthropomorphism of the "antichrist".

-Goo™

As I said, there is some facts, and people build around those facts to come to their conclusions. They do links between facts. Sometimes proven wrong, or proven right.

Now, sir, you did a great mistake in your previous posts. You forgot that history is also based on interpretations taking into account a context, social, economical, cultural, religious.
Not doing so, is leading to anachronism, and thus, inaccurate conclusion. You CANNOT compare EU to Holy Roman Empire or Third Reich for real. If I did so at uni, my history teachers would roll eyes and remind me the exact thing I mentionned earlier in my post.
Finding similarities, yes. Linking them AND mentionning you realize the differences of contexts and therefore aren't linking them both completly by considering similarities/differences of concerned contextes, yes.

Edit:
I remember my president said once "We will clean chavs with karcher" (approximate translation) before being president. From that, many interpretations can be done. Yes, it was wrong to say that for a candidate to presidency, but still...
It can be considered as hidden racism and xenophobia, or, considered as provocative way of saying "we will strongly deal with chavs".

Also, Tintin in Congo for example, I am debating about it in a political forum. I among others remind that there was a different context back when it was written, and anyway the most unacceptable & controversial parts were removed (I agree thos parts were racist). Why did we discuss this book? It's because some belgian dude did twice a request in justice/court to cancel edition and sale of this book for racism motives.
I have this book btw...I am aware of it being controversial, I also remember it's over 60 years old, and that Tintin is not really serious and often a satire/comical about societies.
Taken those into account, what would be wrong, would be to believe picturing in Tintin and take it as true facts, more than owning it/reading it. Given the fact it's not undoubtful ode to racism, considering wrong parts were removed since, and considering humour oftenly depicted in Tintin albums.


Anyway, you surely are mistaken. You forget that the ones who are guilty of conspirating are usually USA or Russia.

i said i wouldn't post about symbols, but i cant help rubbing peoples noses in it!


Baal, Baphomet, Horus, Lucifer all mean one thing ---> Satan the devil. the naysayers can deny it all they want:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WztB6HzXxI

it must be noted that while the children are reading "My Pet Goat", Bush is holding the book upside down.
it might not be clear in this film but the reporters and camera men who were there did indeed confirm that bush held the book upside down.

forget the name of the link below, just take a look at all the pictures, that's what's important here:

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 ... _satan.htm

http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 ... satan2.htm

that's a VERY popular hand signal with our leaders and the celebrities for some reason?!?!



in the image below you can see in the background the famous golden arches of the McDonald's logo, but what very few people know is that, those arches are NOT a capital "M", they are in fact, the rams horns or, the horns of Baphomet.
[img]
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20 ... s-sign.jpg[/img]

McDonald's food has been designed to attack the body, porn attacks the spirit while all the pesticides, chemicals and additives attack the mind. this is not some fantasy, we are being attacked on all 3 levels, mind, body and soul, and everyone is oblivious to the assault.

as for this VERY well known logo, its not a "tick" (as in, tick for correct) as most people think it is ...any guess as to what it is?



but don't take my word for it, go look at ALL the corporate logos and look for similarities, such as pyramids, the eye of Horus pentagrams and so on....


OH, 1 last thing, what's this building doing in the US???

Attacks on the mind, hm?

That would explain a few things that eluded me so far.

Anachronism?

Regardless of how eloquently put that accusation was, it was foolhardy.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=t2Aj ... q=&f=false

"The Lateran Treaty anticipated the Reich Concordat of 1933 between the Vatican and the newly established Third Reich"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichskonkordat
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat#Papal_concordat

Also, if you really want to get back to the very guts of the matter-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concordat_of_Worms

Incidentally, there is much discussion about "the worms" referrenced by the band Pink Floyd on the album The Wall. It is my firm belief that Pink Floyd are here referring to The Concordat of Worms - The First Reich.

An anachronism—from the Greek ανά (ana: against, anti-) and χρόνος (chronos: time)—is an error in chronology, especially a chronological misplacing of persons, events, objects, or customs in regard to each other. The item is often an object, but may be a verbal expression, a technology, a philosophical idea, a musical style, a material, a custom, or anything else so closely associated with a particular period in time that it would be incorrect to place it outside its proper domain.

So, now you have the dates for the first and third Reich being sanctioned by the Vatican, how exactly am i placing things outside of their "proper domain" if you please?

I'm very sorry but i'm becoming rather wary now of your seemingly natural tendency to simply cleverly gainsay as oppsed to actually refuting my sources with facts of your own. Aside from that, if you are doing anything else, shouting "anachronism" in the light of such historical precision is nigh on insultive, with all due respect.

-Goo™

P.S. Don't get me started on symbolism Avenger



The European Union has the right to reverse an Act of God, apparently. In case you are unaware, the one on the left is The Tower of Babel.

"The Tower of Babel" - However, the Tower of Babel was not built for the worship and praise of God, but was instead dedicated to the glory of man, to "make a name" for the builders: "Then they said, 'Come, let us build ourselves a city, and a tower with its top in the heavens, and let us make a name for ourselves; otherwise we shall be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.'" (Genesis 11:4). God, seeing what the people were doing, came down and confounded their languages and scattered the people throughout the earth.
(extract from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel)

How's that for non-anachronistic symbology?
Or am i getting my dates mixed up again?
Next you'll be telling me to name that prune in one
...i need a raisin to live
...my my grandma! what a grape big symbolic building you have!