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Ok jack were are you from were did you grow up ? my high school had 2500 students in it 500 were white the other were of all mixed have you ever been to edmonton alberta canada ? probably not we have china town , little italy, something that we call new india other wise known as millhoods there isnt one place you can go withought running into another race, skin color, or religion , so now you question that i cant have friends that are from all over the world in one citie wow. My soccer/ football teams had 10 different languages lol we grew up together from the age of 10 till now would you not consider them my friends either . not every one lives there life through a computer screen there jack

actually jacky boy ( ) the man does have a point with regards to immigrants.
immigration can be a good thing if done correctly, but as proven many times over, its not being handled correctly in any country where immigration is allowed, Texans should know, yes?

i don't agree with Moses in his early posts at all, but here, i have to admit, he is correct.

Universe wrote:Having to suffer the ineptitude of my so-called 'peers' is too much to ask, yes.


Ah well.. I do not expect you to understand.

I'm bit curious (even though I sorta understand your position), who are people who are "ok" (opposite to inept) in your opinion?

moses of romania wrote:

Thriller wrote:

moses of romania wrote:]

Europe and north america took initiative years and years ago to make sure they would have this wealth and power and to be able to clothe and feed a large part of there population and be able to offer ppl jobs, instead of starting wars with eachother or constantly being in termoil maby some of these other contininents should have followed suite, now there all imagrateing over to these other countries and they are also starting to fill up, and crime and proverty is starting to rise all over the world, its just a mater of time were aids, disease and hunger start to spread faster and faster more and more fobs arive every day , i live in canada western and at most point in times now the White ppl are vastly out numbered by others, i am no rascist dont get me wrong my fiance is brown im just saying the fobs are takeing over every were , my fiance lives in a rural 5000 ppl town and wait ohh asian's are now moveing in in a year whent from 1 resturount to 5 asian resturaounts lol, Time to stop all imagrateing period let ppl stay were they are see how the world turns out more wars will start more ppl will starve , Let me ask you whitch countries send the most support to the other countries in need oh wait its the west and europe

Okay crime and poverty are droping here in Canada. Im not sure about anywhere else. And what is sent overseas are token gestures.

The whole of europe sent last year 48,6 billion euros in development aid. and the US sent 17.5 billion in $.

Now If you compare that to gdp's (gross domestic products). 13.84 trill US GDP last year means 0.12% of the us capital earned went to help others. Europe's GDP was 12,256.48 billion euros. They sent about 0.3% of gdp to help develop. (token gestures).

To address the rest of what you said. Your isolationist policies are dumb. What you said basically boiled down to "I want to keep the rats out of my country before they destroy it with their filth." I dont know when people are finally gonna understand that were all twirling around together on the little blue planet. The decisions we make effect everyone else around us. So we might want to try to get along.


You can ignore the problem if you want. You can even isolate yourself from it. But it not gonna go away and it is going to effect you. (You can close your eyes all you want but it not going to make the bad man go away.)

A man(or woman) should be judged by the quality of his(her) character and not by the colour of his(her) skin. The people immigrating here to Canada are just as likely to bring good ideas and hard work as they are to bring your national Apocalypse you were talking about. We might as well encourage the former and welcome them; as our ancestors did when new Europeans arrived.

Oh and a big part of European prosperity involved conquering and trading with the foreign nations. As well as financing wars between nations they didnt like. Read up on a little history before you go spouting of your " we did it, why cant they" crap.

TLDR version
You dont know anything about european history(or any history really) or finance, or disease. I'd be surprised if you can tie your shoes. What you said about "fobs" taking over is racist. Also i kinda feel like hitting you

LOL man you have no idea how i grew up ask me the percent of my friends that were born in canada oh wait that would be one out of every 10 , my fiance is of color duh, my best friends are from africa, serbia, and india there first language is not english. and are you ready for this they hate there own color want to know why they say they have no respect for the country they have imagrated to and they make them look bad , omg there own ppl hate them who would have thought. Sure imagrateing is needed but when someon who doesnt know english has never driven a car , and has never seen fricken snow is given a drivers liscence on her first week in canada then gets into an accident with 7 other cars possibly kills a few ppl couse the roads were slippery and get away with it becouse shes new to the country thats were i draw the line, wait she got her liscence from her cousin who runs the registry officer wow who would have thought. You have more rights and get more funding if your an imagrant then if you were born here or lived here you whole life. Good ppl lose there jobs becouse ppl that get goverment funding live in low income houseing and pay **Filtered** all for taxes are willing to work for less do you Deam this fair and correct. And what is being PC i dont think it acounts for anything now a day's every one has there own oppion about everything and no matter what or were you go not every one will agree or get allong. There comes apoint were letting more and more ppl into the country just couses more problems for every one. Have you seen what happens when an african who cant speak english runs into a brown persons car who cant speak english alot happens and none of it is good. I grew up in a ruff neighbourhood were ever day i would have to look over my shoulder becouse a grewp of 10 black guys didnt like me becouse of my friends and there friends and there friends friends. I am not Rascist i also dont like alot of ppl of color or different race oh wait i also dont like cocky arogant white ppl that think they rule the world and are better then every one else aka Thriller. Thriller how manny times have you been chased by a pack of ppl becouse you didnt want to see one litte guy get jumped or beat up, or spoke out your opinion and they didnt like what you said becouse some how a single word not anything rascist even something like He didnt do it can couse them to jump and be like ohh that means you did it. AGAIN IMA PUT THIS IN CAPITALS ALL THE PPL THAT I GREW UP WITH HATE ALL OF THE NEW IMAGRINTS AND PPL OF THERE OWN RELIGION AND RACE BECOUSE THEY SHOW NO RESPECT TAKE TAKE TAKE AND MAKE THEM LOOOOK BAD. so please come try and slap me see what happens

I have history books and the internet my fiances passion is anctient history more say eastern europe and egypt. so for you to say i dont know anything about the past is a little obsurde my family came to canada dureing world war 2 becouse they were romanian gypsies and lived in germany , know how manny of my moms side of the family made it out alive my grand father and his mom the train blew up as they were getting out last ppl to leave, so dont say i dont know anything about what has happened in the past

Dude, for everyone's sake, cut your post in MORE paragraphs!

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Anyway, something annoying me is the growth of amount of hallal restaurants (especially pizzerias) in cities around mine, with mine included. I don't eat damn hallal food or pizzas, and from what I noticed, my town is still far from being mostly muslim populated. (so why does 3/4 of ads for pizzerias of the arounds I receive are hallal? Wasn't like that ten years ago!) That's one of things that greatly annoy me in immigration. It looks to me like an attempt of colonisation, made my a certain culture/religion (nope, not Asians restaurants...) in EU countries, is starting to be annoying.
Yes, I do support strict immigration. (otherwise, it's completly chaotic and out of hands, and we only gather more homeless people!) Yes, I do support my government's policy regarding throwing away illegal immigrants. Does it mean I want only european stuff everywhere? Nope. Just in the logical proportions, no excess from one community given its representation regarding to others. I think it wouldn't be interesting to have only same food available. And given I am against affirmative action, it means, no supremacy from *any* kind of culture over the "food industry". It being european, or arabic, or asian, or african. (well in case of european, I mean no monopoly, as it's quite logical it's more represented in food indu than other cultures, given we are in europe lol)
And yes, the culture/religion in question, has an higher fecondity rate than other ones in France, and probably in EU. And THAT, is a problem, and should be fixed. EU isn't bugs bunny land for damn sake!


Erm wait...train did derail completly from original subject!

[KMA]Avenger wrote:

Universe wrote:Ah well.. I do not expect you to understand.

actually (and speaking ONLY for myself), i understand better than you do!

so, the world is to much for universe eh?! more like the Elites are to much for the world and they have also done an excellent job on you and people like you...Ah Well...I don't expect you to understand.

I understand her, but not the way you seem to, lol.
I don't understand what was the sense of that...but I don't think it was something "nice"..

Jack wrote:

moses of romania wrote:Ok jack were are you from were did you grow up ?

Not only was I born in Texas, but my ancestors helped to shape Texas into the state it has become today. So yes, I am a true blood Texan if there ever was one. What exactly was your point? That my opinion would be devalued if I weren't white? Because you know, I'm not white(surprise surprise). Perhaps if I were an immigrant my opinion would be worthless? Because that's exactly what that was, an attempt to devalue my opinion. Nice try though.

i was not trying to devalue your opinion was just asking a simple question you dont know me or were i have grown up or how i have lived my life but you continualy try to devalue my opinions and say that what has happened in my life are just lies and my friends are just ppl ive met over the internet ?



moses of romania wrote:
my high school had 2500 students in it 500 were white the other were of all mixed
[quote="Jack"]
So? Like I said, you should stop posting, because the more you do, the more you sound like a retarded racist. And I don't like using that word(racist) to describe people.

Stateing a fact makes me a racist ? ohh no theres more ppl of ethnic back ground than white ppl im a racist every budy tell the world. wait more of my friends are of that ethnic back ground lol.

moses of romania wrote:
have you ever been to edmonton alberta canada ?
[quote="Jack"]
No, nor do I need to. Whatever imaginary issue you guys might have with immigration, we've got far worse down here in Texas.

yup everything is worse for you all are problems are imaginary yep your so right . have you walked into a school or hall and be able to see the divideing lines between cultures ? and different races, My best friends were sihk just walking down the hall were muslims were a fight would start. just becouse of there religion

moses of romania wrote:
we have china town , little italy, something that we call new india other wise known as millhoods
[quote="Jack"]
Welcome to the big city.

I love the big city just dont like how my fiance cant walk to the store by her self becouse she gets harrased by other men that have come from over seas and see women differently, becouse her skin is darker she seems to atract ppl that have the views that women are there slaves and should do what ever they want them to. She no longer feels safe walking alone is that RIGHT ?

moses of romania wrote:
there isnt one place you can go withought running into another race, skin color, or religion
[quote="Jack"]
Mhmm, point?

people come here and try to force there believes there reliogion there way of doing things onto you and demand you follow it , preach how there way is the only right way, Well leave it in your country or your church i dont mind haveing some spice in my life just dont want to be contantly nagged about others religion of views on things i go out holding hand with my fiance and every other colored person stares and some have even said you do not belong with her again this is not there country do they have the right to say what i can and cannot do ?

moses of romania wrote:
so now you question that i cant have friends that are from all over the world in one citie wow.
[quote="Jack"]
No, I questioned your intelligence and ability to tell the truth. You said you wanted immigration to end full stop. But why would you want this if such a huge majority of your friends are immigrants?

my friends all work, goto school, pay taxes, arent criminals dont try to force there views or religion on other just go about there day like every one else im not fully against it i think it should be controlled to a much higher level, things like citezen ships, buisness loans, credit cards liscences, a better back ground check should be in place screen these ppl befor you pretty much give them everything

moses of romania wrote:
My soccer/ football teams had 10 different languages lol we grew up together from the age of 10 till now would you not consider them my friends either .
[quote="Jack"]
Not really. I lived for almost 20 years with my sister. We're about as friendly as a Jew and a Muslim.

one of my friends is a jew and another is a muslim and we all get along great my group of friends is an abomination to most countries religions and races but we all get along great and would chose eachother over someon else of the same color religion or race just couse we kinda look the same

moses of romania wrote:
not every one lives there life through a computer screen there jack
[quote="Jack"]
Your point I know, but we're not talking about everyone, we're talking about you

again there you go saying everything i pretty much say is just through made up lies or experiences through a computer screeen i havent tried to question you yet But you continualy question me and what i do with my life, i only ever tuch these forums or a computer realy while im at work leaves me 16 hours that you have no idea were or what im doing

moses of romania wrote:
my high school had 2500 students in it 500 were white the other were of all mixed

was this put out in a rascist bad way ? nope just stateing a fact.

moses of romania wrote:
I love the big city just dont like how my fiance cant walk to the store by her self becouse she gets harrased by other men that have come from over seas and see women differently, becouse her skin is darker she seems to atract ppl that have the views that women are there slaves and should do what ever they want them to. She no longer feels safe walking alone is that RIGHT ?

I find it rather difficult to believe that.

well just the other day i was at work and i got a nice little phone call from my fiance saying there is a black man following me around the store and he wont leave me alone keeps telling me to come spend the day with him. so i told her to talk to a store clerk which she did , but oh wait guese what he was waiting for her by the exit as she was leaving he started following her telling her to come spend the day with him , and they should get to know eachother better and to get in his car. she did the right thing whent to another store and told the man infront of the cashier to leave her alone and that she was calling the police. this has happend a few times allready she no longer walks to the store by her self and is afriad to go out alone in her own neighbourhood

moses of romania wrote:
people come here and try to force there believes there reliogion there way of doing things onto you and demand you follow it , preach how there way is the only right way,

You mean like what you're doing right now?

im not forceing any one i didnt make you read my post and reply to it you did that of your own free will you can stop reading and posting when ever you chose to freedom of speach i have my views you have yours and thats that.
moses of romania wrote:
Well leave it in your country or your church i dont mind haveing some spice in my life just dont want to be contantly nagged about others religion of views on things

Keep your opinion contained to your head and don't try to force it on your neighbor. I like spice in my life, but only on my food. I don't want to be constantly nagged by others about their views on immigration.

Again im not nagging just saying what i believe im not forceing anything on you i dont have you pinned up against a wall do i nope you continualy chose to come back and keep reading and keep posting

moses of romania wrote:
i go out holding hand with my fiance and every other colored person stares and some have even said you do not belong with her again this is not there country do they have the right to say what i can and cannot do ?

It is not your planet, you do not have a right to tell them what they can and can not do.

nor do they have the right to tell me who i can or cannot be with if ppl leave me alone i leave them alone i dont force anything on anyone but i do stand up for myself

moses of romania wrote:
yup everything is worse for you all are problems are imaginary yep your so right . have you walked into a school or hall and be able to see the divideing lines between cultures ? and different races, My best friends were sihk just walking down the hall were muslims were a fight would start. just becouse of there religion

Considering that the influx of illegals in Texas alone is as much as three times than that of the entire nation of Canada, yeah, I'd say we got it worse than you do in little ol' Edmonton.

ohh you probably get more ppl that are illigal i never said are problem was border jumpers its letting alot of different ppl in withough properly screening them giveing them what ever they want and setting them lose amongst the rest of the population

This thread is turning into something interesting.. a pack of rats trying to maul a dog.



@ Avenger: I led you here, for I am Spartacus.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:and BTW, i would stop replying to universes new best friend (moses of romania) if i were you. not many agree with universes opinions with regards to eugenics and humanity, unfortunately, he seems to agree with her and i guarantee you'll only end up fueling the fire.

Oh, that is a cute ad hominem. *clap* Delightful.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:this part of the forum (compared to other boards and forums of similar nature) is anything but politicly correct!
if anything, your attitude towards humanity and your support of eugenics is what is "politicly correct", because the establishment supports the very same attitude you have towards life...

You mean to say that you are *not* doing exactly what you are supposed to do? No societal structure is credible without its critics.. they are as integral a part of the system as the ones guiding it from above are. Your so-called 'incorrectness' is doing what you are expected and required to do. Now, if you were to cease doing what you are doing -i.e. protesting the evolution of our global society-, then you might actually achieve something. As long as the critics are heard, freedom is 'guaranteed'. Or at least, lack of freedom becomes a rather incredible notion; after all, you are allowed to protest. Not saying I agree with the system there, but it's how it works. Silence or recruit those who could actually effect any change, and let a few loose cannons with no substantial following do their thing.. then when the issue of freedom comes up, point at the few and smile, knowing that they are proof of you allowing freedom to thrive.

[KMA]Avenger wrote:so, the world is to much for universe eh?! more like the Elites are to much for the world and they have also done an excellent job on you and people like you...Ah Well...I don't expect you to understand.

'the world'.. such a broad term.. some 98% of the human population is worthless to me, on the basic principle that if they need -i.e. cannot live without- morality to guide their path, they are not worth my time. Note that I don't condemn morality, I condemn those people who believe that it is the sole reason for their survival. I do not condemn the intellectual who purposefully decides to uphold morality. I condemn the idiot who believes that if they don't, their lives will end. To make a biblical comparison; I am the snake, purposefully leading people to realise that God -morality- will not smite them for eating the fruit of knowledge -i.e. choice-. So perhaps I save my own paradise by introducing the serpent. At least, that will be my choice. Choice is the only thing in this universe that is ever worthy of the term 'holy'.
To facilitate future choice, I will let the Devil hitchhike with me for a few years. Ah well.. to each their own. "I don't expect you to understand."

For the rest of the thread, I refer you to the parable of the rats and the dog.
Feel free to feast on the decaying corpse of the verbalisation of my ideas. Dinnertime, little ones.


Also: Moses, learn the **Filtered** how to quote. And get out while you still can. There's no other way a dog could fight off a pack of rats.

i dono how to quote hehe never bothered to figure it out dont post enough

[spoiler]i dont want out to much fun[/spoiler]

@universe:

i understand full well what you saying and getting it, i also understand (though they don't apply to me) what your saying about morality and whatnot so i'll just leave it at that...

but i'm really starting to wonder about you and now i feel i am forced to ask a question because i see you as a HIGHLY articulate and intelligent person, i fail to understand how you have missed the agenda of the elites and what they have instore for all of us. regardless, that's a side issue, on to the question...









































































are you an emo?

lmao is who an emo universe ? couse i am deffinantly not

kma is my hero

ME, A HERO???

that last post of mine was for Universe




edited my last

i dono if emos like choppas i guese we are about to find out

Hero couse u de railed a seriouse topic oooooooo

Universe wrote:'the world'.. such a broad term.. some 98% of the human population is worthless to me, on the basic principle that if they need -i.e. cannot live without- morality to guide their path, they are not worth my time. Note that I don't condemn morality, I condemn those people who believe that it is the sole reason for their survival. I do not condemn the intellectual who purposefully decides to uphold morality. I condemn the idiot who believes that if they don't, their lives will end. To make a biblical comparison; I am the snake, purposefully leading people to realise that God -morality- will not smite them for eating the fruit of knowledge -i.e. choice-. So perhaps I save my own paradise by introducing the serpent. At least, that will be my choice. Choice is the only thing in this universe that is ever worthy of the term 'holy'.
To facilitate future choice, I will let the Devil hitchhike with me for a few years. Ah well.. to each their own. "I don't expect you to understand."

I'm sure you realize that a great part of people from this game are part of this category of people? Then, why would you have joined a place which might be full of people you dislike? Especially game's forums, where people tend to talk and discuss stuff, causing an interaction with said people...
Anyway, there's many people who don't follow morality at all, so this 98%, you could withdraw about 15% from this, with all kinds of rebels (towards religion, state, morality...) and criminals around this world..

Also, for last part of your post (that I quoted, the last sentence), are you looking to go to hell and be damned?
*is scared*

If there is a hell we are allready liveing it

moses of romania wrote:
Hero couse u de railed a serious topic oooooooo

serious topic?! are YOU serious???

i see nothing serious in a topic that has more holes than an Arnold Schwarzenegger film victim

Lol you deleted your post so I deleted mine!

I did say, I probably didn't udnerstand her post, as reading last page wasn't easiest thing to do, so it's hard to get a grip of it.