Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:28 pm
Kk the weird design is fixed, at least it works normally for me..
~Jack
~Jack
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Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:14 pm
Yep, went back to the good old Quantum Wars style about five hours ago...
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:38 am
So, Turns on the daily market have been changed from 1440 per day, to 1200. Good idea, Im wondering if the turn generation has gone down aswell?
Not that it will make much difference, I spent the entire of last era over the 2000 maximum.
Font been fixed
I think the Stike bug has been fixed (killing strike weapons each hit). But not sure.
Edit: nope.. still loosing strike weapons even when the attacker doesn't breach the defence
Edit again.
Major bug.. ReTu cannot attack each other, and cannot use PPT.
You forgot to change those features when you copied change the name "Undead" to "Re'Tu"
Not that it will make much difference, I spent the entire of last era over the 2000 maximum.
Font been fixed
I think the Stike bug has been fixed (killing strike weapons each hit). But not sure.
Edit: nope.. still loosing strike weapons even when the attacker doesn't breach the defence
Edit again.
Major bug.. ReTu cannot attack each other, and cannot use PPT.
You forgot to change those features when you copied change the name "Undead" to "Re'Tu"
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:18 am
just so folks know, i have been and am working my way through 'loose ends'
I should finish in the next day or 3.
at that point, or sometime during, i will do an update to the existing era to 'balance' it somewhat so that folks are not way way behind a week into it
some other fine tuning in attack etc. will be made as well....i will post the details once complete.
at this point, a lot of the bugs are gone and i am checking the bug forum, topic referenced in the first post of this thread....
so - "abandon all hope ye who enter here" ... while it sounds cool...is not applicable yet
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I should finish in the next day or 3.
at that point, or sometime during, i will do an update to the existing era to 'balance' it somewhat so that folks are not way way behind a week into it
some other fine tuning in attack etc. will be made as well....i will post the details once complete.
at this point, a lot of the bugs are gone and i am checking the bug forum, topic referenced in the first post of this thread....
so - "abandon all hope ye who enter here" ... while it sounds cool...is not applicable yet
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:24 am
Forum wrote:just so folks know, i have been and am working my way through 'loose ends'
I should finish in the next day or 3.
at that point, or sometime during, i will do an update to the existing era to 'balance' it somewhat so that folks are not way way behind a week into it
some other fine tuning in attack etc. will be made as well....i will post the details once complete.
at this point, a lot of the bugs are gone and i am checking the bug forum, topic referenced in the first post of this thread....
so - "abandon all hope ye who enter here" ... while it sounds cool...is not applicable yet
Good to see that you haven't forgotten about us
Well many of us believe that a reset should be in order as those who were bothered to farm at beginning (even though risking a chance for a reset to happen, and yeah it's our fault we didn't farm as well) have gotten very far away, not sure how you can balance it, without reseting all the stats and purchases of course..
~Jack
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:36 am
i guess he will give them ppt and minor boost to their up so they can be closer to sleepy. 
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:57 am
i really dont see the "balance" as an issue if every1 can farm..
see here viewtopic.php?p=1935705#p1935705
see here viewtopic.php?p=1935705#p1935705
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:22 pm
c'mon sleepy be real
1. there will be at least 50 people farming at the same time so you wont be able to farm 12b in days.
2. not everyone has a bank for 12b.
3. what about the billions we have as weapons, spy lvl ...? so they will need more naq, more turns, more time. but dont forget we will have more naq and turns. that gap will never be closed.
4. they have already missed 2 market turns (2400) which we have or farmed.
so reset was the best option.
p.s.
i'm scared that with those updates to "balance" the game and players we'll be stucked with more bugs.
1. there will be at least 50 people farming at the same time so you wont be able to farm 12b in days.
2. not everyone has a bank for 12b.
3. what about the billions we have as weapons, spy lvl ...? so they will need more naq, more turns, more time. but dont forget we will have more naq and turns. that gap will never be closed.
4. they have already missed 2 market turns (2400) which we have or farmed.
so reset was the best option.
p.s.
i'm scared that with those updates to "balance" the game and players we'll be stucked with more bugs.
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 1:31 pm
we are not that far ahead.. I have been farther behind than this. and come back to compete.
weapons and spy levels arent important yet.. only UP
1market turn, and not every1 will have missed it
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Put it this way... were not getting a reset.. im trying to offer realistic alternative plans.
400 hits isnt that hard.. and I doubt there will be 50 people who all go for the whole lot/.. most will just farm emough for a UP ofr 6-7k..Armed & Dangerous wrote:1. there will be at least 50 people farming at the same time so you wont be able to farm 12b in days.
Go as asgard and store as weapons, 100% sell cost = free unlimited banking.. like I did to store the naq..Armed & Dangerous wrote:2. not everyone has a bank for 12b.
Armed & Dangerous wrote:3. what about the billions we have as weapons, spy lvl ...? so they will need more naq, more turns, more time. but dont forget we will have more naq and turns. that gap will never be closed.
weapons and spy levels arent important yet.. only UP
Armed & Dangerous wrote:4. they have already missed 2 market turns (2400) which we have or farmed.
1market turn, and not every1 will have missed it
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Armed & Dangerous wrote:c'mon sleepy be real
Put it this way... were not getting a reset.. im trying to offer realistic alternative plans.
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:32 am
Still cant attack any farm by far.
And now noob users who can, have started attacking the actives who cant attack yet for **Filtered** amounts of naq soooo...
Never going to be able to catch up...let alone attack anyone ever!
Guess its just Goodbye and see ya next era then...
Since bugs are being fixed but the biggest issue of all isnt...
And now noob users who can, have started attacking the actives who cant attack yet for **Filtered** amounts of naq soooo...
Never going to be able to catch up...let alone attack anyone ever!
Guess its just Goodbye and see ya next era then...
Since bugs are being fixed but the biggest issue of all isnt...
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:08 am
The farming itself isn't the problem (that some haven't planned things right from the beginning, it's what Quantum is all about, tactics and adjusting to new things, while I do believe that all newcomers should be able to get strike good enough to beat defenses of inactive ones, as they shouldn't be punished for starting late), the problem was that many of us who could have farmed didn't farm because we believed a reset will happen due to so many unsorted bugs and now everyone that expected a reset can farm for 30mil naq instead of 120mil naq average if we'd got any news from admin before the farm fest.
This also had a big effect on the need to balance things out now, usually the naq from farm fest goes to AT LEAST 30 people, now it went to, what, 8? Which is the reason those 8 got so far ahead. Granted a number of people planned things wrong and the number of people that were farming got decreased due to that aswell, but there're still some like me who didn't farm because we expected a reset and even if that naq from farm fest went to 16 people instead of 8, that'd balance things out A LOT more. And then there wouldn't be such need to balance things out because things would've gotten balanced by themselves.
Every farming fest benefits those who attend to it and those that didn't can still catch up fairly easily, because there're more people benefiting from it which means less naq average per player which means less stuff to catch up with.
So while one can argue that we've only got ourselves to blame for the gap because we haven't farmed..Well the results from pool about reset speak from themselves, that's what we were hoping for even before the farm fest started.. So if admin would told us that he wasn't gonna reset the game before the farm fest started, there wouldn't be the need to balance things out now.
~Jack
This also had a big effect on the need to balance things out now, usually the naq from farm fest goes to AT LEAST 30 people, now it went to, what, 8? Which is the reason those 8 got so far ahead. Granted a number of people planned things wrong and the number of people that were farming got decreased due to that aswell, but there're still some like me who didn't farm because we expected a reset and even if that naq from farm fest went to 16 people instead of 8, that'd balance things out A LOT more. And then there wouldn't be such need to balance things out because things would've gotten balanced by themselves.
Every farming fest benefits those who attend to it and those that didn't can still catch up fairly easily, because there're more people benefiting from it which means less naq average per player which means less stuff to catch up with.
So while one can argue that we've only got ourselves to blame for the gap because we haven't farmed..Well the results from pool about reset speak from themselves, that's what we were hoping for even before the farm fest started.. So if admin would told us that he wasn't gonna reset the game before the farm fest started, there wouldn't be the need to balance things out now.
~Jack
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:11 pm
Still gonna have to disagree,
Whats the need of several race's if everyone HAS to become the same one to be able to play.
Nothing to be planned anymore, def increases at a faster rate then naq, since its being farmed too... so no way of being able to play no matter how many more days we have to wait....
Whats the need of several race's if everyone HAS to become the same one to be able to play.
Nothing to be planned anymore, def increases at a faster rate then naq, since its being farmed too... so no way of being able to play no matter how many more days we have to wait....
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:51 pm
Well obviously it's possible for pretty much everyone to start farming, even new accounts after that future balance. Also the gap that farm fest caused will eventually close up, just like in previous eras, even if the difference is bigger this time.
On the other hand no matter how we look at it, without a reset this will stay a messed up era, even if all the bugs get sorted out.
On the other hand no matter how we look at it, without a reset this will stay a messed up era, even if all the bugs get sorted out.
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:16 am
Sorrow wrote:Well obviously it's possible for pretty much everyone to start farming, even new accounts after that future balance. Also the gap that farm fest caused will eventually close up, just like in previous eras, even if the difference is bigger this time.
On the other hand no matter how we look at it, without a reset this will stay a messed up era, even if all the bugs get sorted out.
You tell me how to farm then.
Avg Farms def with no weapons : 100mill
My income per 24hours : 85mill
antimatters cost : 53mill
1 antimatter adds: 12.5mill offensive power.
ill need lets say 10 of them to attack.
That costs 530mill and will take more then 6 days to generate.
This era has been here for 6 days now so the farms their def will have doubled!
I wont be able to attack as an asgard, period.
Re: Congrats Era 20 - welcome Era 21
Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:27 am
Scenester wrote:
My income per 24hours : 85mill
Are those miners on a riot? You have nearly 16k units, if all of them are trained into miners, that's 400*16000*48 for 24 hours, which is more than 300mill, even as an asgard.