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Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 6:57 am
by killtacular
beliblisk wrote:killtacular wrote:[spoiler]
beliblisk wrote:Gee i guess
PURE AWESOMENESS doesnt let you sleep,you cant get it out of your heads.....even if you think that you forgotten
IT you are wrong
I personally dont need fun wars (i have big enough war with Fuall).
Fun wars are pointless any way(only good for training like friendly wars) beside that there is nothing "true " about them.
Now back to your "beliblisks MS issue"..........i wouldnt have big MS like i do now nor would i have 300 mil army size or AG ascention lvl if i would build defs so you could have some fun.
You guys wont have fun on my expences.............i will have fun on yours

FUN wars are pointless? Why do you play this game then? if its to meet new people and talk hell there is a myspace and a facebook site for that hell im sure there are some dating sites out there too.[/spoiler]
beliblisk wrote:You guys wont have fun on my expences.............i will have fun on yours

I take it your talking about money?
In my case(not that i couldn afford it but it is out of the principal) that is men as ingame resources(that are used for boosting Ms instead of building defs)..............as for Fuall side its both $$$ and in game resources.
what is your complaint about money? If you do shouldn't the complaint be more aimed at Jason the owner of the game?
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:10 am
by Neimenljivi
Those that are saying "if you farm you get ~1tril per hour which is about 1,5$, if you work you get 4,5-10€ per hour even as a student." have you considered not everyone can get a job and those that need it badly usually need a lot of that money for living, you know, buying food, paying the bills, and are often left with nothing at the end of the month?
Sure if I was bill gates-rich I'd probably buy myself a kickass account with a kickass MS and everything, but I couldn't insult anyone by saying they're bad if I needed to use $ to get to where I am. Such as people who say "wooh I'm a big bad mofo with the most wicked stats you can't destroy and i destroyed soooooo much more than any of you has and ever will" and they used $$ for everything. Not much of a skill, to login in your paypal account and send the money over for 500tril naq, use it up to build the most wicked stats and to mass everyone in top 100 for ME hunting, then buying another 500tril naq with $$ to get the units and naq you've lost while you were massing those people back..
I'm all for fun wars, heck me and killt met through one of them and so did I meet a lot of other players, but how can you have a fun war, giving the defenses to other people (outside of server war) to mass, as you're trying to have a fun war with them, if everything you build gets massed by someone you don't want aswell?
Oh and those that go on and on about how long it took someone to mass their defenses down - yesterday I had some time and went massing a few people..guess what, out of all 5 people I massed and a few others I was planning to mass, everyone had nox on. Much fun, really, especially if u use a lot more time than you planned to spend for it..
~N
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:15 am
by beliblisk
My complaint about $$$$$$:
1) it lowers game play level(mainly insane MSs and duals)
2) it allows newcomers to overdo some one that was working on his account for years
3) a lot of them($$$$$$$$$$ spenders) are "good" players mainly becaous of $$$ and not their skils(not telling that they dont have any)
So playing fun "wars" is easy.You dont need to gather resources nor ATs just wage war......but guess what this game can offer much more than just actual massing.
Take Yoyos def for example.If it would be massed my $$$$$$$$$$ spender(just for example $tekki$,$Deni$,$JT$,$Q$,$Jock preincess$,$Orph$,$Rodwolf$,$Famine$,$Bebita$,$Myhill$,$Dazman$,.........) in my eyes that massing would be worth 0.Huge MS,huge duals and all loses covered with $$$$.
When AG Thor massed Yoyo his losses were huge and he will basically need few months to recover from only one massing.That is what this game can offer not just headless massing whoever,when ever as many times $they$ please.
That is my believe and no one will make me change my mind.
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 7:33 am
by ~Vix~
I saw the title and just knew this thread would be 100% crap.
So what if they're not? a lot of alliances aren't...
(this thread so belongs in public dump)
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:39 am
by killtacular
~Vix~ wrote:I saw the title and just knew this thread would be 100% crap.
So what if they're not? a lot of alliances aren't...
(this thread so belongs in public dump)
I dont think so I have gained some kinda a view from a why state of mind on why I haven't seen any fun wars from my enemies. I know I cant generalize a few posts for all of TTF but just from the ones posting there opinions.
I did ask noobert to calm down in my thread. I really didn't want that in this thread.
I didn't want it to be flame wars 2010
beliblisk wrote:My complaint about $$$$$$:
1) it lowers game play level(mainly insane MSs and duals)
2) it allows newcomers to overdo some one that was working on his account for years
3) a lot of them($$$$$$$$$$ spenders) are "good" players mainly becaous of $$$ and not their skils(not telling that they dont have any)
So playing fun "wars" is easy.You dont need to gather resources nor ATs just wage war......but guess what this game can offer much more than just actual massing.
Take Yoyos def for example.If it would be massed my $$$$$$$$$$ spender(just for example $tekki$,$Deni$,$JT$,$Q$,$Jock preincess$,$Orph$,$Rodwolf$,$Famine$,$Bebita$,$Myhill$,$Dazman$,.........) in my eyes that massing would be worth 0.Huge MS,huge duals and all loses covered with $$$$.
When AG Thor massed Yoyo his losses were huge and he will basically need few months to recover from only one massing.That is what this game can offer not just headless massing whoever,when ever as many times $they$ please.
That is my believe and no one will make me change my mind.
so your problem is the money spent in this game? The game has become not what its been for you. Can you just quit playing if you dont like it?
If you dont like the war can u not surrender ?
I have surrendered to TDL before, payed my TRIBUTE when I was in the janissaries.
To me wars are fun, massing people are fun , getting nasty a pm makes me laugh. Out of many wars I have never seen as much hatred in the game as in this war. People post on both sides just to raz the other guy/girl. Are you going to change it NO.
Im a money spender too! About $100 a yr on this game. Since I started playing .
So I guess add me to the players you dislike as well. Hell I got some resorces at my expense for you to mass if it makes you have some fun.
Enjoy it.
Damn even the nox is off for ya.
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:55 am
by harchester
beliblisk wrote:My complaint about $$$$$$:
1) it lowers game play level(mainly insane MSs and duals)
2) it allows newcomers to overdo some one that was working on his account for years
3) a lot of them($$$$$$$$$$ spenders) are "good" players mainly becaous of $$$ and not their skils(not telling that they dont have any)
So playing fun "wars" is easy.You dont need to gather resources nor ATs just wage war......but guess what this game can offer much more than just actual massing.
Take Yoyos def for example.If it would be massed my $$$$$$$$$$ spender(just for example $tekki$,$Deni$,$JT$,$Q$,$Jock preincess$,$Orph$,$Rodwolf$,$Famine$,$Bebita$,$Myhill$,$Dazman$,.........) in my eyes that massing would be worth 0.Huge MS,huge duals and all loses covered with $$$$.
When AG Thor massed Yoyo his losses were huge and he will basically need few months to recover from only one massing.That is what this game can offer not just headless massing whoever,when ever as many times $they$ please.
That is my believe and no one will make me change my mind.
then your believes suck
Spending $$ is good i get good profit from it

Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:58 am
by ~Coyle~
beliblisk wrote:So playing fun "wars" is easy.You dont need to gather resources nor ATs just wage war......but guess what this game can offer much more than just actual massing.
Take Yoyos def for example.If it would be massed my $$$$$$$$$$ spender(just for example $tekki$,$Deni$,$JT$,$Q$,$Jock preincess$,$Orph$,$Rodwolf$,$Famine$,$Bebita$,$Myhill$,$Dazman$,.........) in my eyes that massing would be worth 0.Huge MS,huge duals and all loses covered with $$$$.
When AG Thor massed Yoyo his losses were huge and he will basically need few months to recover from only one massing.That is what this game can offer not just headless massing whoever,when ever as many times $they$ please.
.
Sorry have to say the same, i dont have anything against $$ spenders, fair play for keeping this game going but it annoys me when i have players like that saying they havent been massed by me or FS members yet, will if i mass 1 or two it generally costs me alot due to there monster MS, takes me a little time to recover as i dont have time to farm and raid anymore but it would still take time to replace my losses and Ats if i did
If i had the cash of course i would spend some $$ here though

Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:23 am
by R8
think beli was trying to make the point that it takes more effort to recover losses and build ms strike and stats to fight the people in FUALL that unless we decide to invest some money into our accounts then we cannot by normal gameplay fight fuall and have fun wars.
on another note like i said we have fun massing fuall whenever and whoever is around and the rest of the time well we spend recovering our losses.
i have plenty of $$ to spend on this game but i choose not to as i would rather farm any naq and build up that way. yes it takes longer but its what i enjoy doing.
so maybe this is the point im trying to make to you kill. it comes down to the individuals weather they want to have a war with someone, weather they can afford it and weather they have the time to do both server war and side wars.
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:56 am
by R0B3RT
without $$$$$$$$$$ spender who have turn in this game

Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:00 am
by deni
It is the looser's trait to blame external factors for their defeats.
If you want to believe that everything on our accounts is bought with $, please do so. I hope it makes you feel better.
Some of the players you have mentioned in your post J-Ronimo have not spent a dime on sgw, not even on buying USS. I know that because I have known them for a long time and even met in RL.
But to each their own.
Morale of the story: You do recognize real losers by their inability to take responsibility and admit that they are people that outperform them ... be it because of luck, skill or simply more time spent on the game.
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:50 am
by J-ronimo
Erm Deni, where have i mentioned any money spenders?
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:56 am
by deni
J-ronimo wrote:Erm Deni, where have i mentioned any money spenders?
Sorry. I was referring to beliblisk.
You two sound so much alike.
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:02 pm
by J-ronimo
Right...
Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:12 pm
by RedKnight
I have to say i enjoyed the fun war i had..thing is they are surprisingly enough...fun, its a test of your skill, spend a week or so building up resources, get ready, and have a week of playtime. Its great, you get close as an alliance, play around, make a load of new friends, and because youve spent a week or so building up resources, all you lose is uu, it doesnt have to be massive..as the big one going on is asking, even without planets adding to defense, basic is 3mil defenders, add another mil or so everytime you lose it..ok maybe over the week you may lose 20mil army, hell if you put the effort in thats 5k worth of farming to buy that back, and you dont lose that much naq as you saved up. So no complaint about affording it. My ms is tiny, 300bil maybe, when we fought PP some i was bigger, others i wasnt, i didnt care..gave it a go, you claim your a skillful player even if their bigger then you may get a win every so often.
For once im supporting FUall here..you cant complain about them doing it as they have more resources or whatever, look at all the alliances doing it/volunteering for it, i know few of them that spend $$$. And on $$$ there are quite a lot of FUall that have decent mss..they dont all use money. They arnt challenging you to a fun war, killz was just saying try it with someone, most would gladly play around with you, find one of similar power to you and have a week fight...see how it goes, for one you could win you can still claim that you are powerful. I know you used to be great alliances..but sadly few can see that now.
Sorry about the confusion, my train of thought kinda wanders
edit: urgh i supported FUAll...i feel so...dirty

Re: shame not seeing any TTF ALLIANCES do any fun wars
Posted: Mon Jan 04, 2010 5:38 pm
by Noobert
Dazman! You naughty cash spender you!
