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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

why apologise?! this topic is more relevant now than it was when i first posted it ;)

i've been following the news in the US and other counties for the past few weeks, some countries have thrown these machines out altogether. in the US the TSA are in serious trouble after complaints of molestation and groping have been made against the Gestapo-type TSA agents with quite a few lawsuits being filed against them.
1 woman had her blouse pulled down in front of everyone. the poor woman was inconsolable and was taken to a private area, after she came out TSA agents who had missed what happened then said words to the affect of:; "wish i was here to see that".

others have had their privates groped and fondled with TSA agents putting their hands inside clothing....

but hey, we shouldn't be to hard on the TSA, after all they do that job because they love us and want to keep us safe :roll: #-o [-X
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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

Great. So now when I want to visit some freinds in the USA I have to go through those things. Besides don't those Body scanners cause some medical problems if a person is over exposed to them. But ythen again I wouldn't want anybody touching my junk either.
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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

I think when lot of people will spoke their mind and protest then they would be removed.
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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

Bah humbug to radiation

People are living in Chernobyl again !!

The composition of the ground we live on determines our background dosage and it varies hugely, theres a place in Iran where the natural background radiation is higher than the accepted levels for workers in western radiation exposed jobs, even in the UK some people living in rural mountainous places with lots of granite get natural doses 5x more than the people in the cities, without any increase in cancer rates.


Body scanners are not a health risk


Body scanners are an invasion of privacy, and could cause embarrassment or distress to some people but thats a small price to pay if it ensures your holiday flight dont turn into a manned missile, I'd say the real question is will they be effective in deterring or preventing terrorism, or are they just a placebo to increase consumer confidence ?

Given the recent news about freight not being checked and bombs hidden in ink printer cartridges I'd say a body scanner may prevent amateur idiots but will have little effect on those with the determination, organization, knowledge and funds to carry out such attacks.
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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

These measures are not saving even one life. They have failed to stop attempted attacks, they are not capable of detecting the types of attacks that have been tried. To the best of my knowledge, not a single terrorist has been stopped and arrested because these security measures detected their weapons. On the other hand, ordinary law abiding citizens are arrested all the time on felony and even terrorist charges because they forgot they had a pen in their purse when they went to board their flight to visit their grand kids for the holidays. :roll:
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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

Well, what can I say...

THIN END OF THE WEDGE.

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P.s. Think this will stay at the airports...? Think buses, trains, subways, major attractions & sporting events.

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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

Don't forget mobile scanning vans which will scan you without your consent, and at shopping centres/malls.

its always the thin end of the wedge which is why i resist at the outset and will not tolerate even 1 iota of loss to my freedoms. to that end i post this quote from Benjamin Franklin, there are a couple variants but both convey the same truth;

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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

Would this be a good time to bring up the TV screens in Wallmart that tell you to spy and report on other shoppers?

It's a combo of Total Recall, Running Man & 1984...

And guess what America, they are just warming up...
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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

Guess whos coming to a local mall, or check point in the USA....?

The TSA, and their bringing the scanners with them.

They are moving faster and faster each day.

Meanwhile a US pilot has uploaded a video that shows how most airport employees only have to swipe a card to enter the airport, mean while pilots, cabin crew and the general public are humiliated and abused by minimum wage TSA thugs in uniforms...

America can say goodbye to its tourist industry.

Is this sinking in yet...?

There is a 3000lb elephant in the room and no ones talking about it...
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The Normalcy Bias

The normalcy bias refers to an extreme mental state people enter when facing a disaster. It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of the government to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred that it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

So hows this working out for America?
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The Normalcy Bias

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Re: body scanners at airports...what do you think?

When was the last time Americans were killed by terrorist attacks on American soil? If we exclude the Ft. Hood shooting, you pretty much have to go all the way back to '01.

When was the last time Americans were killed on American by Mexican drug violence? Oh, five minutes ago? And before that, three minutes ago?

The evidence is clear, Mexican drug cartels are a greater threat to American lives and American sovereignty than any terrorist. The solution is simple: pull out of the imaginary war on terror and invade Mexico.
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No need to invade Mexico.....

If the prez had any cajones he would issue a warning to all illegal immigrants that they need to get out of dodge by reporting to the local police who will make sure they are transported back to their own country without prejudice. then build a massive frigging wall and post boarder agents on the walls with big guns, instead of letting Mexican police cross the boarder (the boarder, what a joke!) and search US citizens, and drug cartels killing US citizens on US soil....


Allowing even 1 US citizen to be killed by an illegal alien-is on it's own-an impeachable offence....isn't it?
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