Summary of Events

[donais]

maybe u should look to the outskirts

[[SlayerS_fith]]

Why can't we all just farm eachother? why does it have to lead to another Server War, it almost killed the game last time, and finally people are getting better, and BAM SWIII is coming on

what game are you playing, I play this freaking game to war, hell when i found it thats what i thought it was, A game of battleing, Hell Ive had some freaking awesome fun in online battles, been beat maybe 3 4 times, lol All I hear from that talk is i want to sit and farm so i can build some stats,,

Now its a game of lets hug and see how big I can build my stupid stats,

You want to fix this game, and the wars then do a damn update that clearly gives a winner,, Hell there has been all sorts of warring updates Like Blood realm , but none of you would go do them , Cause In my opinion ALL ( i didnt exclude me from all either) are scared to have an Official You Lost tag put on them,, And due to all this BS And crying hat some big guy beat me up.. we now have this sorry ass game to play

only problem with that odji is that 1 alliance will go in and snipe off another alliance if its decided by pure stats killed. because 1 side wont buil d anything.
there has to be a evenw ay to kill some1's account and not let the bigger people have total control so smaller players can grow.

[Lord Yojimbo]

Why can't we all just farm eachother? why does it have to lead to another Server War, it almost killed the game last time, and finally people are getting better, and BAM SWIII is coming on

what game are you playing, I play this freaking game to war, hell when i found it thats what i thought it was, A game of battleing, Hell Ive had some freaking awesome fun in online battles, been beat maybe 3 4 times, lol All I hear from that talk is i want to sit and farm so i can build some stats,,

Now its a game of lets hug and see how big I can build my stupid stats,

You want to fix this game, and the wars then do a damn update that clearly gives a winner,, Hell there has been all sorts of warring updates Like Blood realm , but none of you would go do them , Cause In my opinion ALL ( i didnt exclude me from all either) are scared to have an Official You Lost tag put on them,, And due to all this BS And crying hat some big guy beat me up.. we now have this sorry ass game to play

only problem with that odji is that 1 alliance will go in and snipe off another alliance if its decided by pure stats killed. because 1 side wont buil d anything.
there has to be a evenw ay to kill some1's account and not let the bigger people have total control so smaller players can grow.

Mad idea

But my Idea


Maybe a representative council of alliances should be created with the task of reviewing the game and coming up with detailed proposals to improve the game - normal feedback wont do the job especailly looking at the large swathes of disgruntlement over the latest updates so why not have a council of all leaders and reps of as many alliances to thrash out a reasonable proposal for improvements when it comes to war and then propose it to admin?

I know its democratic and beurocratic and possibly tedious and slow but at least there would be a structure in place for future proposed updates with an assurance of all involved in its inception and to put such developed ideas forth to the admin....


Politics and Propoganda aside - We need a system to determine The Victors and Losers in War (dont think more overly costly massing is the answer - sorry admin )

So why not come up with the answer - All of Us

[jedi~tank]

Why can't we all just farm eachother? why does it have to lead to another Server War, it almost killed the game last time, and finally people are getting better, and BAM SWIII is coming on

what game are you playing, I play this freaking game to war, hell when i found it thats what i thought it was, A game of battleing, Hell Ive had some freaking awesome fun in online battles, been beat maybe 3 4 times, lol All I hear from that talk is i want to sit and farm so i can build some stats,,

Now its a game of lets hug and see how big I can build my stupid stats,

You want to fix this game, and the wars then do a damn update that clearly gives a winner,, Hell there has been all sorts of warring updates Like Blood realm , but none of you would go do them , Cause In my opinion ALL ( i didnt exclude me from all either) are scared to have an Official You Lost tag put on them,, And due to all this BS And crying hat some big guy beat me up.. we now have this sorry ass game to play

only problem with that odji is that 1 alliance will go in and snipe off another alliance if its decided by pure stats killed. because 1 side wont buil d anything.
there has to be a evenw ay to kill some1's account and not let the bigger people have total control so smaller players can grow.

Mad idea

But my Idea


Maybe a representative council of alliances should be created with the task of reviewing the game and coming up with detailed proposals to improve the game - normal feedback wont do the job especailly looking at the large swathes of disgruntlement over the latest updates so why not have a council of all leaders and reps of as many alliances to thrash out a reasonable proposal for improvements when it comes to war and then propose it to admin?

I know its democratic and beurocratic and possibly tedious and slow but at least there would be a structure in place for future proposed updates with an assurance of all involved in its inception and to put such developed ideas forth to the admin....


Politics and Propoganda aside - We need a system to determine The Victors and Losers in War (dont think more overly costly massing is the answer - sorry admin )

I think you are on to something here m8

[Lord Yojimbo]

Why can't we all just farm eachother? why does it have to lead to another Server War, it almost killed the game last time, and finally people are getting better, and BAM SWIII is coming on

what game are you playing, I play this freaking game to war, hell when i found it thats what i thought it was, A game of battleing, Hell Ive had some freaking awesome fun in online battles, been beat maybe 3 4 times, lol All I hear from that talk is i want to sit and farm so i can build some stats,,

Now its a game of lets hug and see how big I can build my stupid stats,

You want to fix this game, and the wars then do a damn update that clearly gives a winner,, Hell there has been all sorts of warring updates Like Blood realm , but none of you would go do them , Cause In my opinion ALL ( i didnt exclude me from all either) are scared to have an Official You Lost tag put on them,, And due to all this BS And crying hat some big guy beat me up.. we now have this sorry ass game to play

only problem with that odji is that 1 alliance will go in and snipe off another alliance if its decided by pure stats killed. because 1 side wont buil d anything.
there has to be a evenw ay to kill some1's account and not let the bigger people have total control so smaller players can grow.

Mad idea

But my Idea


Maybe a representative council of alliances should be created with the task of reviewing the game and coming up with detailed proposals to improve the game - normal feedback wont do the job especailly looking at the large swathes of disgruntlement over the latest updates so why not have a council of all leaders and reps of as many alliances to thrash out a reasonable proposal for improvements when it comes to war and then propose it to admin?

I know its democratic and beurocratic and possibly tedious and slow but at least there would be a structure in place for future proposed updates with an assurance of all involved in its inception and to put such developed ideas forth to the admin....


Politics and Propoganda aside - We need a system to determine The Victors and Losers in War (dont think more overly costly massing is the answer - sorry admin )

I think you are on to something here m8

Well It is something that is necessary at this stage - I shall need to contact a few alliance and empire heads initially and see what people will think of such an idea and we can go from there if it flies - and whether there is motivation to make this work is another question

[jedi~tank]

Why can't we all just farm eachother? why does it have to lead to another Server War, it almost killed the game last time, and finally people are getting better, and BAM SWIII is coming on

what game are you playing, I play this freaking game to war, hell when i found it thats what i thought it was, A game of battleing, Hell Ive had some freaking awesome fun in online battles, been beat maybe 3 4 times, lol All I hear from that talk is i want to sit and farm so i can build some stats,,

Now its a game of lets hug and see how big I can build my stupid stats,

You want to fix this game, and the wars then do a damn update that clearly gives a winner,, Hell there has been all sorts of warring updates Like Blood realm , but none of you would go do them , Cause In my opinion ALL ( i didnt exclude me from all either) are scared to have an Official You Lost tag put on them,, And due to all this BS And crying hat some big guy beat me up.. we now have this sorry ass game to play

only problem with that odji is that 1 alliance will go in and snipe off another alliance if its decided by pure stats killed. because 1 side wont buil d anything.
there has to be a evenw ay to kill some1's account and not let the bigger people have total control so smaller players can grow.

Mad idea

But my Idea


Maybe a representative council of alliances should be created with the task of reviewing the game and coming up with detailed proposals to improve the game - normal feedback wont do the job especailly looking at the large swathes of disgruntlement over the latest updates so why not have a council of all leaders and reps of as many alliances to thrash out a reasonable proposal for improvements when it comes to war and then propose it to admin?

I know its democratic and beurocratic and possibly tedious and slow but at least there would be a structure in place for future proposed updates with an assurance of all involved in its inception and to put such developed ideas forth to the admin....


Politics and Propoganda aside - We need a system to determine The Victors and Losers in War (dont think more overly costly massing is the answer - sorry admin )

I think you are on to something here m8

Well It is something that is necessary at this stage - I shall need to contact a few alliance and empire heads initially and see if what people will think of such an idea and we can go from there if it flies - and whether there is motivation to make this work is another question

you have my number

[Lord Yojimbo]

Why can't we all just farm eachother? why does it have to lead to another Server War, it almost killed the game last time, and finally people are getting better, and BAM SWIII is coming on

what game are you playing, I play this freaking game to war, hell when i found it thats what i thought it was, A game of battleing, Hell Ive had some freaking awesome fun in online battles, been beat maybe 3 4 times, lol All I hear from that talk is i want to sit and farm so i can build some stats,,

Now its a game of lets hug and see how big I can build my stupid stats,

You want to fix this game, and the wars then do a damn update that clearly gives a winner,, Hell there has been all sorts of warring updates Like Blood realm , but none of you would go do them , Cause In my opinion ALL ( i didnt exclude me from all either) are scared to have an Official You Lost tag put on them,, And due to all this BS And crying hat some big guy beat me up.. we now have this sorry ass game to play

only problem with that odji is that 1 alliance will go in and snipe off another alliance if its decided by pure stats killed. because 1 side wont buil d anything.
there has to be a evenw ay to kill some1's account and not let the bigger people have total control so smaller players can grow.

Mad idea

But my Idea


Maybe a representative council of alliances should be created with the task of reviewing the game and coming up with detailed proposals to improve the game - normal feedback wont do the job especailly looking at the large swathes of disgruntlement over the latest updates so why not have a council of all leaders and reps of as many alliances to thrash out a reasonable proposal for improvements when it comes to war and then propose it to admin?

I know its democratic and beurocratic and possibly tedious and slow but at least there would be a structure in place for future proposed updates with an assurance of all involved in its inception and to put such developed ideas forth to the admin....


Politics and Propoganda aside - We need a system to determine The Victors and Losers in War (dont think more overly costly massing is the answer - sorry admin )

I think you are on to something here m8

Well It is something that is necessary at this stage - I shall need to contact a few alliance and empire heads initially and see if what people will think of such an idea and we can go from there if it flies - and whether there is motivation to make this work is another question

you have my number

Awesome mate I am sure we shall see more reaction here in due course as well

Right - Back to Bed Damn Insomnia

[donais]

wasnt that what blood realm was suppose to be...as far as i know thats still a complete fail

[Kaps1]

EoB attacking TC for supporting OE- this is dumb (extortion)

EPA trying to poke ate Omega....getting sat on for it

TAF thinking they are war with Rico's and DDE..ummm not

Beli threatening to mass all House of Science and Faith supporters- idiocy (extortion)

The constant blabber coming out of the ***** camp about DDE turning on its long time allies

Has anyone stopped to think that this nonsense will make FUALL and friends bigger and more unified? Does the one propogating all of the behind the scenes jibberish need to make a name for himself to the degree of complete humiliation of his/her friends....

Lets discuss now..

Topple DDE--aint happening
Topple OE- aint happening
Topple FUALL- aint happening
Make DDE bigger--might happen
Make OE bigger-- might happen
Make FUALL bigger- defo happening


The bottom line is this..ya got no swagger. And your technique is bad, real bad.

Nice try bud! Really, props. Though it's a rather biased view point, from the most biased person on this topic. You manage to easily point out the obvious!

Though it has been stated many times over that there are many reasons for the attack, Which we feel no need to list to you. There is absolutely no obligation for us to explain our actions to someone not even involved in the war. LMAO

So you are speculating, claiming it as fact. When in actuality, it's an exscuse for you. We extort no one, and never will. I will never be apart of such action in any way! When Tekki and TC asked what we demanded. We said surrender, after all it is a war game. And it was specificly asked what they'd have to give up, we answered absolutely nothing except surrender. Since it's all the rage now, I can post the msn convo if you want to see em?

No sawagga or technique ? Son, you come better with accusations!

[Infected]

JT is only good for funding whoever DDE is fighting

[Mathlord]

Thats BS mathlord, EPA members and TAF members hit DDE before the nap ended and we even waited an ADDITIONAL 2 weeks before the first response was made.

I missed this post from Friday but I have to clarify what an outright lie that is. There was no "additional 2 weeks" before hits were made. Both sides made mistakes and hit each other before the NAP ended, but we were no more guilty of that (far less actually) than your side. That said, there was a simple system to refund accidental naq stolen, which had worked going both ways. However, the DAY the NAP ended, DDE was all over our logs...

You see, this is what I don't get about you JT. From the moment I first met you, you can never just tell what happens or talk straight. You have to lie and add extra nonsense to your story to fit whatever it is that you're trying to say. I would mass you during the server war only to hear you retort "nuh uh I so massed you three times while you failed to mass me". This is the problem with talking to you. There's no fun, or sport, or challenge in debating facts or ideals or opinions with you. All it ever boils down to is you saying I lie and me saying YOU lie. The sad thing is then that noone learns anything and the everyone gets further divided down the lines of who we are going to believe this time.

[MEZZANINE]

lols at all the speachwriting, propaganda, and people claiming the moral highground

1) Serverwar 3 is inevitable, FUALL is clearly the largest most dominant empire in game, FUALL throws it's weight around, and the only way to seriously stand up to FUALL is build an equally large empire or confederacy. So when FUALL has made enough enemies again, those enemies will join forces and serverwar 3 will start. Just a matter of time.

2) Houses ( The Empire Update ) may accelerate this process by making forced empires to gain bonuses. Well in theory anyway, I and many other dont think the bonuses are high enough to justify fighting over. Id bet that purchases of ATs for $$$ dropped significantly when the last serverwar ended and this is the real reason for this update, admin wants serverwar for $$$ income.

3) FS still stands for independence, we still believe alliances should fight 1v1 for their own reason, with the strength of their own membership, and calling on support from empire or other group affiliation is a sign of weakness, just mean you cant hold your own or fight your own battles.


@ JT we accepted you offer on the 1 year anniversary, it was a narrow marginned vote slightly in your favor, then Deni came back from Hols, stomped on the idea and went on a public slurring and propaganda drive so dont even go there

[Tekki]

Mathlord, it's amusing you know to say someone never speaks straight.

I've been trying to hold talks with TAF. It's a bit hard when AvatarX - the current ingame leader of TA - doesn't reply to you. Last message was sent by me 2 days back with no reply. TAF aren't interested in talking, obviously.

@Kaps, surrender wasn't the only thing you guys wanted from TC, at least that's what Les Ennemis told me. It was surrender and something else.

[deni]

@ JT we accepted you offer on the 1 year anniversary, it was a narrow marginned vote slightly in your favor, then Deni came back from Hols, stomped on the idea and went on a public slurring and propaganda drive so dont even go there

Go where?

As I have said countless time before, maybe you should ask the one who talked with JT about the so called offer for the COMPLETE convo (bar the personal part) and post then?

Or maybe you should not lie to my members telling them I said things that I did not?

Balls and jar anyone?

Just a suggestion for the future


@Kaps1: never seen anyone to lose the little respect they have earned so fast.


@all: The day DDE starts to play the good guys, we are dead. And I do not see that comming anytime soon.

Love us, hate us at the end you all want just to be like us

[Easy^]

Deni as long as you want us to surrender, thats as long as you'll wait for anything to move in FS DDE relations. We don't really care... as if your actions have any serious effects on us, nothing i have noticed.