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Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:20 am
by Mathlord
Nostra wrote:I wonder if someone has tried stacking the bought ppts ?


I have tried stacking bought PPTs through the black market over christmas. Not intentionally, but I wanted to buy $100 and the max was $50. Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, they didn't stack and I still only had the hour of PPT after both purchases.

@ Bebita...what? Mate, if someone is using black market PPTs to stay on an eternal PPT, you should laugh. Laugh with everyone you have because that person is wasting thousands of dollars a months when they could easily make their account the best one in the game for that amount of $$.

Noone should ever be on eternal PPT and most certainly noone is untouchable as has been proven time and time again in this game.

God do you know what I'd do if I had $160 bucks to spend on this game a day? It most certainly wouldn't be sitting on PPT I can tell you that :lol:

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:24 am
by Tekki
Ascending you can be on PPT 11 days out of the 14 days (8 days normal PPT, 2 days Ascension PPT and 2 x 12 hour alliance PPT) Using alliance PPT though doesn't extend any existing PPT much past 2880 mins.

If you have used both PPTs up with the market - aka trade UU/naq/ATs for the PPT then you cannot buy a supporter status PPT.

You can sit there and buy Black Market resources and thus have the appearance of being on PPT a LOT. For example buy the resources at 15:06 gives you 60mins of PPT that then almost looks like 1.5 hours worth of PPT. You cannot buy 2 lots of Black Market resources for 120mins PPT but you can go and buy another lot of black market resources at 16:36 for another 60mins of PPT and you'd only be off PPT for 1 minute.

And over Christmas it was possible to PPT longer again - because admins gift gave a 12 hour PPT which did stack I believe on top of any existing PPT.

And that's about all I can say on the length of PPTs. :-)

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:35 am
by noone
Mathlord wrote:Off topic note: We all know who we're talking about here...come on people :lol:

On topic: Originally, eternal PPT was allowed in the game back in 2005. Brothercrit did this to perfection by being sent a good percentage of the units of his alliance (Shagadelic Warriors if anyone remembers them) and selling a portion of his naq generated for $$ to keep buying supporter bonuses and using the rest to fund his alliance's actions. Shortly thereafter, Jason put a limit on PPTs to twice in a week (also, interestingly enough he added a rule making accounts purely there for selling resources for $$ illegal...a rule that I presume still exists but is never enforced).


Was before my time.
But, oi .. that raises some interresting points, but in which I will not tread deeper at this point.

Mathlord wrote:Anyway, I'm not too versed on if you can buy a supporter package after you buy your two market PPTs and if that would give you a third PPT. I imagine it wouldn't, otherwise the previous rule would have been made meaningless and resource accounts would stay on eternal PPT. So while you can stay on PPT for long periods of time by combining PPTs between different weeks, and using alliance PPTs to also extend the time, the only real way to do it would be with buying resources off the black market and with a minimum of $10 a purchase, that would be quite a price to pay costing $160 dollars a day or so and really isn't worth it. In fact, for that price you could buy about 300 trillion naq which is roughly 140 trillion more than what you'd get through the ingame black market and that extra 140 trill is most certainly enough to buy back most any defense someone would be trying to protect that day.

So yes, it's possible, but it's pointless.



Even here, a rule where max 2ppts are allowed, are already succombed by ascending.
And buying the small packages would become very costly very fast indeed.
Unless Jason gives discounts XD

A bit of essence i was aiming at witht he whole thread .. was .. being able to aqcuire the same status while playing without $$


Interresting bit of info on Shagadelic Warriors there, thanks for that.


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Oi, fast posts xD


Mathlord wrote:
Nostra wrote:I wonder if someone has tried stacking the bought ppts ?


I have tried stacking bought PPTs through the black market over christmas. Not intentionally, but I wanted to buy $100 and the max was $50. Anyway, to the best of my knowledge, they didn't stack and I still only had the hour of PPT after both purchases.


Ahh this straight to the point, thanks for clearing that up :D


Mathlord wrote:Noone should ever be on eternal PPT and most certainly noone is untouchable as has been proven time and time again in this game.

God do you know what I'd do if I had $160 bucks to spend on this game a day? It most certainly wouldn't be sitting on PPT I can tell you that :lol:


Indeed, the perpetual idea was that it might be done with $$, and as it would be unable to without spending $$I would have figured this as one of its few dishonest advantages ... but seeing as its not the case .... :D

And if I had 160$ to spent on the game ... well .. never realy thought of that .... I shouldnt either, cos I never ;P

Thanks for the infos here man :D

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:38 am
by noone
Tekki wrote:Ascending you can be on PPT 11 days out of the 14 days (8 days normal PPT, 2 days Ascension PPT and 2 x 12 hour alliance PPT) Using alliance PPT though doesn't extend any existing PPT much past 2880 mins.

If you have used both PPTs up with the market - aka trade UU/naq/ATs for the PPT then you cannot buy a supporter status PPT.

You can sit there and buy Black Market resources and thus have the appearance of being on PPT a LOT. For example buy the resources at 15:06 gives you 60mins of PPT that then almost looks like 1.5 hours worth of PPT. You cannot buy 2 lots of Black Market resources for 120mins PPT but you can go and buy another lot of black market resources at 16:36 for another 60mins of PPT and you'd only be off PPT for 1 minute.

And over Christmas it was possible to PPT longer again - because admins gift gave a 12 hour PPT which did stack I believe on top of any existing PPT.

And that's about all I can say on the length of PPTs. :-)



2 straight awnsers in a row with detailed info :D thank you too Tekki :D

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:56 am
by Jim
For the third time. Spam...STOP IT! Stay on topic, if its not on topic you have already been verbally warned 3 times now so expect a warning! Its fairly simple to only post relevant things.

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:00 pm
by jedi~tank
Eelyzabth wrote:well, each time you purchase 10 dollars worth of goods you will receive an hour (which can stretch to 1.5) so if you have the money i suppose you could technically but goods every 1.5 hours... has anyone ever purchased items in quick succession? I am intrigued to know? as for the 2 day ppts, other than ascending they are strictly 2 per week, you cannot even see the upgrade page if you already used 2

edited to add : I haven't read the galactic thingumy, came across this one by clicking view new posts... I tend to avoid the areas where people are nasty with each other

If you have $10 to burn at the end of every ppt you can stay on ppt ;)

Jedi~Tank
Perpetual ppt strategist :smt019

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:32 pm
by R0B3RT
10$ every 90 min

yep you can stay on ppt and sleep when you have 48h ppt

you can buy turn for $
sell turn for naq (a good farmer can use your turn and give back naq )
sell naq for $

rob3rt
Perpetual ppt strategist

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 2:34 pm
by kaboom
im confused now, so yu can stay on ppt forever with $ yu pay for a game wich yu dont play then ?

perpetual PPT-er- strategist > what does that mean ?


~kaboomer~
DDE is commin 4u
[ Dominium of Chaos - IbrokeMFC]

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:09 pm
by Mathlord
kaboom wrote:im confused now, so yu can stay on ppt forever with $ yu pay for a game wich yu dont play then ?

perpetual PPT-er- strategist > what does that mean ?


~kaboomer~
DDE is commin 4u
[ Dominium of Chaos - IbrokeMFC]


That's a valid point...he's saying instead buy turns with the $$.

So say you spend 10 bucks to buy those turns off the black market...you'd get 10.5k turns. When rates were higher, you could sell those turns for a trill naq per k...then back when naq was still a dollar a trill, you could sell that naq on the forum for just over 10 bucks. Then repeat. Takes dedication but you could actually make a proffit on it and protect your turn income constantly.

Not sadly the $$ market is no longer allowing of that :lol:

Good thought JT.

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:59 pm
by Rabbid Thom
Mathlord wrote:
kaboom wrote:im confused now, so yu can stay on ppt forever with $ yu pay for a game wich yu dont play then ?

perpetual PPT-er- strategist > what does that mean ?


~kaboomer~
DDE is commin 4u
[ Dominium of Chaos - IbrokeMFC]


That's a valid point...he's saying instead buy turns with the $$.

So say you spend 10 bucks to buy those turns off the black market...you'd get 10.5k turns. When rates were higher, you could sell those turns for a trill naq per k...then back when naq was still a dollar a trill, you could sell that naq on the forum for just over 10 bucks. Then repeat. Takes dedication but you could actually make a proffit on it and protect your turn income constantly.

Not sadly the $$ market is no longer allowing of that :lol:

Good thought JT.


yeah thats right when it came in you could but admin has heavily reduced the ammout you get it used to be something like 1500 ATs per $ and yeah when i looked at it back then you could make $30k profit a month off the black market buy and selling turns


all in all the answer is yes you can stay on ppt pretty much non stop but only if you buy from the black market

or (i doubt this as i think i tried it before way back not ) you use both your ppts then get some1 else to pay an USS from their account but gift it to you maybe if someone cared to attempt this and enlighten us see what happens

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:08 pm
by jedi~tank
The ppt's from the black market cannot be stacked, but are as endless as the $10 one can spend..the USS gift counts as a used PPT, so 1 player can only recieve 2 per week max if a market ppt has not been used. ;) The giver of the USS gift can give as limitless as his or her $10 bills will allow.

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:58 am
by ~Angell~
indeed, if you ascend or buy a ppt it counts then as a market ppt i do believe.
as i ascended once in mid week, thinkin i could ppt agian after (suppose not lol), yet you can ppt 2x then ascend and have the ascention ppt. so i suppose it could be possible but only with $$ i guess. I've never bought a $10 pagkage for ppt, i'd rather buy up at's lol. but i would think admin would even limit that possiblity some.

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:49 am
by Eelyzabth
it does work if you use your 2 ppts before you ascend, you still get a third full 2 days ppt and your market page will say this :

You have used 2 trades and/or donations this week.
You have used 3 PPT bonuses this week.

plus you get to use the third trade for merlins/turns

thats a copy paste btw, I ascended yesterday

(off topic, but WOOT UNKNOWN!!!!!! YAY ME :smt081 \:D/ :smt026 )

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:26 pm
by ~Angell~
[quote=http://gatewars.com//upgrade.php]There is a limit, though, of upgrading your account to a maximum of 2 times per calendar week for bonuses that include the protected planet treaty applications (PPT).
You have used 2 PPT bonuses this week.

There is a limit of 2 account upgrades per week that include PPT bonuses. This is to ensure the game is fair to all. We thank you for your support in reaching that limit!
The 'week' renews after the last turn is given out during the 00:00 hour on Mondays.
Thank you again, and may all power be yours!![/quote]

Re: Perpetual PPT

Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 5:19 pm
by RepliMagni
When you move to a new alliance is there a time limit (ie: 5 days?) before you can get their alliance ppt? If not, and you're willing to do a bit of travelling.....