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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:20 pm
by ~Coyle~
Go Roket, just read first page cant be arsed reading anything else
If i got a chance to rip off a known scammer hell yes i would
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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:20 pm
by Rabbid Thom
RoKeT wrote:Rabbid Thom wrote:im not against what you did
im just saying your pretty much asking for people to "cliam" they were scammed and you could end up handing over trillions to someone who just came across this thread
a persons word is worth nothing
dosn't matter how clean, how much good trade feedback they have just means the victim is easier
im just saying so you don't end up giving it back to the or another scammer who just sell it for $
see clarkeys nailing it
So then what do you think I should do, I mean now taht I have it and all HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
I do like the Donate to a charity where I can produce a receipt I'm not sure yet
*yes I'm making this a joke, it is... sorry but if you really think this shouldn't have happened I just can't figure out why* so to me it is a joke!!!
do something good with it
do your research
give payment to those who are clean (VK) maybe a bit of compensation for the time
bang the account off or give it to someone for free
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:26 pm
by Juliette
MEZZANINE wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Scamming is scamming.
Robin Hood was a thief, an outlaw.
When the police take stolen goods from a criminal does that make them criminals ???
The police are an authority, supported by law. Totally different from vigilante justice, and you can see from the Trayvon Martin case how well vigilantes and justice match.
MEZZANINE wrote:If there were no police ( as there are not here ) and a robber took something off you, say he stole your mobile phone, if a friend of yours stole the phone back and gave it to you, would you call your friend a thief ???
It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:28 pm
by |D3v1L|
rockets like superman a rober robed from a jewlery store superman came in and took what he stole and gave it back to the store
what im trying to get at was dont put rocket in the books as a scammer what he did was like what superman has done nothing more
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:29 pm
by ƒëmmë
Cersei Lannister wrote:MEZZANINE wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Scamming is scamming.
Robin Hood was a thief, an outlaw.
When the police take stolen goods from a criminal does that make them criminals ???
The police are an authority, supported by law. Totally different from vigilante justice, and you can see from the Trayvon Martin case how well vigilantes and justice match.
MEZZANINE wrote:If there were no police ( as there are not here ) and a robber took something off you, say he stole your mobile phone, if a friend of yours stole the phone back and gave it to you, would you call your friend a thief ???
It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
miss glasshouse, you should put down them stones

Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:33 pm
by Drakodan
Cersei Lannister wrote:It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
Theft implies ownership. Stolen goods are not owned by the thief. Therefore, I would not call it being a thief yourself to simply reclaim them.
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:34 pm
by RoKeT
EVERYONE STOP
I'm not superman, robinhood, scammer, thief whatever lol
I'm just a guy who decided to do something about the obvious lack of justice in the trading department, the difference in all of you talking trash is the "vigilante" garbage wouldn't have had to happen IF we had the proper channels to control it, what I did was wrong jsut as wrong as what he did, and I felt **Filtered** HORRIBLE to do it even to Fenrir but I still feel it was right, and honestly thats all that matters to me, I lvoe this community and at the end of the day it really does mean more to me then probably most people on here, but that doesn't mean I'm going to throw away what I feel is right because you guys think it's wrong
let me ask you something
if a kid steals lunch money from another kid, and a bigger kid comes over and takes it back and gives it to the kid who had it stolen from him in the first place would that make him a thief, would the school's punish him?
if a friend steals your girlfriends diamond ring, and another friend see's it at said friends house, and that friend brings it back... do you think you'd be upset with the thief or the one who brought it back, do you think the cops would arrest both?
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:35 pm
by MEZZANINE
Cersei Lannister wrote:MEZZANINE wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Scamming is scamming.
Robin Hood was a thief, an outlaw.
When the police take stolen goods from a criminal does that make them criminals ???
The police are an authority, supported by law. Totally different from vigilante justice, and you can see from the Trayvon Martin case how well vigilantes and justice match.
MEZZANINE wrote:If there were no police ( as there are not here ) and a robber took something off you, say he stole your mobile phone, if a friend of yours stole the phone back and gave it to you, would you call your friend a thief ???
It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
I believe the odd phrase that covers that is ''cutting off your nose to spite your face''
You would rather lose your property than have someone recover it for you
No Roket does not have the authority to police scamming..... thats the whole point, no one polices it, they should, admin should not permit scamming and if he stepped up others like Roket would have legal recourse and not have to take matters into their own hands.
I dont see the comparison to Trayvon Martin, as far as I know Roket wasnt carrying a gun and no one got hurt or could get hurt in any way
Motive - Selfless to help others
Action - Questionable
Result - Scammer loses, scammed get their stuff back, all good
Drakodan wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
Theft implies ownership. Stolen goods are not owned by the thief. Therefore, I would not call it being a thief yourself to simply reclaim them.
Likes ^
Of all the argument here, that one is the simplest, clearest and hits the nail right on the head
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:41 pm
by |D3v1L|
MEZZANINE wrote:Drakodan wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
Theft implies ownership. Stolen goods are not owned by the thief. Therefore, I would not call it being a thief yourself to simply reclaim them.
Likes ^
Of all the argument here, that one is the simplest, clearest and hits the nail right on the head
and i second that
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:42 pm
by Rabbid Thom
but Roket the fact stays you not taking from the scammer and giving it back to the scammed
other wise you'd have sold it back to him for the $16
in my eyes the account was Fenrirs who only scammed VK
(hellsing can just shut up, i didn't get my secret santa gifts 2 years running but gave out so does that mean those who were surposed to give to me were scammers?)
VK paid for an account but got scammed therefore the only account you have in possesion that was fenrirs must be the account that is owed to VK regardless of what you think it's worth
RoKeT wrote:have a 35USD bid so far
everyone behind the scenes is loving me for this HHAHHAHAHAHAH
I really feel like I can get more, who says 50USD!?!?!?!
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:43 pm
by Juliette
Fine, fine. Emotional arguments, but why not. I understand where you are coming from.
MEZZANINE wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:MEZZANINE wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:Scamming is scamming.
Robin Hood was a thief, an outlaw.
When the police take stolen goods from a criminal does that make them criminals ???
The police are an authority, supported by law. Totally different from vigilante justice, and you can see from the Trayvon Martin case how well vigilantes and justice match.
MEZZANINE wrote:If there were no police ( as there are not here ) and a robber took something off you, say he stole your mobile phone, if a friend of yours stole the phone back and gave it to you, would you call your friend a thief ???
It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
I believe the odd phrase that covers that is ''cutting off your nose to spite your face''
You would rather lose your property than have someone recover it for you
No Roket does not have the authority to police scamming..... thats the whole point, no one polices it, they should, admin should not permit scamming and if he stepped up others like Roket would have legal recourse and not have to take matters into their own hands.
I dont see the comparison to Trayvon Martin, as far as I know Roket wasnt carrying a gun and no one got hurt or could get hurt in any way
Motive - Selfless to help others
Action - Questionable
Result - Scammer loses, scammed get their stuff back, all good
Drakodan wrote:Cersei Lannister wrote:It would not matter what I called him. He would be a thief. You cannot 'steal back' what was stolen without becoming a thief yourself.
Theft implies ownership. Stolen goods are not owned by the thief. Therefore, I would not call it being a thief yourself to simply reclaim them.
Likes ^
Of all the argument here, that one is the simplest, clearest and hits the nail right on the head
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:46 pm
by MEZZANINE
Cersei Lannister wrote:Fine, fine. Emotional arguments, but why not. I understand where you are coming from.
We established before that Im a very emotional guy, and there's only one emotion I gots for you Jules
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Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:52 pm
by HellSinG
Rabbid Thom wrote:but Roket the fact stays you not taking from the scammer and giving it back to the scammed
other wise you'd have sold it back to him for the $16
in my eyes the account was Fenrirs who only scammed VK
(hellsing can just shut up, i didn't get my secret santa gifts 2 years running but gave out so does that mean those who were surposed to give to me were scammers?)
VK paid for an account but got scammed therefore the only account you have in possesion that was fenrirs must be the account that is owed to VK regardless of what you think it's worth
Topic name: "For Everyone Fenrir Scammed".
Why didnt VK even bother posting about he being scammed ? How does roket know that its VK's account anyways ? And how do u know, that he hasnt scammed somebody else meanwhile, and that person didnt bothered to post on the forum just like VK...
P.s: He got scammed for 80 tril, i got for 120 tril lol... the account is up for sale, the $ will bring resources, and then naq to its legit owners, thats it i guess.
Fenrir~ wrote:only guy i scammed was vintage viking that was 80 trills

Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:57 pm
by RoKeT
I could always just give Vintage back his Naq and give Fenrir back the account and blame it all on my alliance stating it's a... what was it Admin J "a fair tactic to the game"
[spoiler]just being cynical and joking of course[/spoiler]
Re: For Everyone Fenrir Scammed
Posted: Wed May 02, 2012 1:00 pm
by |D3v1L|
rocket wrote:First let me explain this is a "stolen" account from a scammer, all procedes will go to those who have been scammed that come forward, this auction will last for 2weeks at which time I will call a close and the highest bidder gets it remember this is for resources only, anything I recieve extra for account will go back to Fenrir
Second thought maybe extras go to charity not sure yet but it is a possibilty, if that is the case reciept will be provided
Main
Red title
TUK
438mill army no merc
200mill can be untrained
ms 1,3 trill with fleets
35/34
300k raw 700k total with no officers
300 days MPDSD
Ascended all stats at least 700
everything he gets extra for the account will go back to him all he is doing
he will be selling the uu on the account and use naq to pay off the scammed if if he has extra naq he will leave it on the account and give the account back to fenrir BUT if he does need to sell the account to pay them back he will do so the account will not go back untill all is payed back