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Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:55 pm
by Juliette
Thought you would get planet count * 1,000 per turn? 15B per turn is absolutely terrible.
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:22 pm
by Sniperwax
Juliette wrote:Thought you would get planet count * 1,000 per turn? 15B per turn is absolutely terrible.
That's 109.5T per 5 months yes? Assuming sufficient APP you are 10% ahead of the game but no more turn refills laugh
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:33 pm
by Sol
15 bill a turn is 720 bill per day. That's enough. It's not based on how much LF you have either, goes up and down with planet count.
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:29 pm
by Sniperwax
Sol wrote:15 bill a turn is 720 bill per day. That's enough. It's not based on how much LF you have either, goes up and down with planet count.
7.2Q free DMU daily is basically what this amounts to and while that is awesome for non-TUKs there are no more turn refills now right? The system is well designed how it doesn't covert anything less than the needed 18.02k but it should also ONLY deduct 18.02k for turn refills not the full APP bank.
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:46 pm
by Sol
Sniperwax wrote:Sol wrote:15 bill a turn is 720 bill per day. That's enough. It's not based on how much LF you have either, goes up and down with planet count.
7.2Q free DMU daily is basically what this amounts to and while that is awesome for non-TUKs there are no more turn refills now right? The system is well designed how it doesn't covert anything less than the needed 18.02k but it should also ONLY deduct 18.02k for turn refills not the full APP bank.
See a few posts up on reasoning.
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:55 pm
by Sniperwax
Sol wrote:Sniperwax wrote:Whining
Sol wrote:
See a few posts up on reasoning.
I thought I understood the reasoning at the time it was posted but now the math is a bit ugly.
I clearly remember the guy that has an erect monster in his sig. saying nonTUKs would come out ahead on this but we are getting 100t-ish instead of 200t-ish in 5 months now. Please tell me I am bad at math here.

Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:06 pm
by Sol
Sniperwax wrote:Sol wrote:Sniperwax wrote:Whining
Sol wrote:
See a few posts up on reasoning.
I thought I understood the reasoning at the time it was posted but now the math is a bit ugly.
I clearly remember the guy that has an erect monster in his sig. saying nonTUKs would come out ahead on this but we are getting 100t-ish instead of 200t-ish in 5 months now. Please tell me I am bad at math here.

You could only ever get 100 t per 5 months

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Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:15 pm
by Sniperwax
Sol wrote:Sniperwax wrote:Sol wrote:Sniperwax wrote:Whining
Sol wrote:
See a few posts up on reasoning.
More whining
You could only ever get 100 t per 5 months

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4k AT is 4t LF every 2 weeks even being ridonkulously conservative. Even a less conservative estimate of 5.8t LF. More liberal estimates with 250t++ strikes sends that number as high as 8-10t LF.
Non-TUKs getting their 100t LF in 5 months maybe slightly higher like Juliette but are now missing all the LF from AT refills so instead of like 200t or 250t for all inclusive 5 month LF total they get 100-ish? lol How many ultra-high expanse non-TUKS are there anyways? Not sure which planet is Juliettes but I always assumed she was very high expanse the way she rambles on etc.

Giving up quads of naq worth of UP/COV on main to get about 45% of the the old system's LF eeeesh I believe a Mayhem Pony forum sig would be a better investment. Not sure if they make those for non Mayhem but if the price is right who knows?
And don't even start me on the cold harsh reality that I am logged in 18-ish hours a day and getting 0 LF per turn right now and the guy that hasn't logged in for 3 years is getting LF per turn haha.
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:18 pm
by matty~
Sol wrote:, LF conversion automatically occur so I can moderate it into a supplement to farming, not (as it is) a direct injection of steroids into the eyeball.
currently:
100 trill @ 10 bill planet count will be converted in 154 days
100 trill @ 20 bill planet count will be converted in 130 days
100 trill @ 1 bill = 250 days
I have created a basic rigorous model if you wish to see what I'm thinking (or talking about):
http://ascended.gatewars.com/lfperturn.php
this is all im seeing out of this
and what i know is there is alot of players that have a 8bil planet count , HIGHER then 5bil slightly off from 10 .. so what happens to them people
and what you mean supplement to farming ? and what the hell where the reason to store app in the open now its just more tempting for me to spend before it was easy to save now its gonna be harder to save up
and how about creating a " AT TO LF button "
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:16 pm
by Sol
matty~ wrote:Sol wrote:, LF conversion automatically occur so I can moderate it into a supplement to farming, not (as it is) a direct injection of steroids into the eyeball.
currently:
100 trill @ 10 bill planet count will be converted in 154 days
100 trill @ 20 bill planet count will be converted in 130 days
100 trill @ 1 bill = 250 days
I have created a basic rigorous model if you wish to see what I'm thinking (or talking about):
http://ascended.gatewars.com/lfperturn.php
this is all im seeing out of this
and what i know is there is alot of players that have a 8bil planet count , HIGHER then 5bil slightly off from 10 .. so what happens to them people
Click buttons and read things.
matty~ wrote:and what you mean supplement to farming ? and what the hell where the reason to store app in the open now its just more tempting for me to spend before it was easy to save now its gonna be harder to save up
As in it wont just be a massive cash injection into an account, it will go along with farming.
Pfft what are you going to do buy a house? You're going to spend it anyway.
matty~ wrote:and how about creating a " AT TO LF button "
One exists for ATs to DMU already, that's enough.
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 2:40 am
by Dubby_CompGamerGeek2
yh, the converter ate my 18k APP, so now i have ***** for turns. :O :'(
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but please don't take away the 1200 that i still have just for a full refill.
I will use them first.

i needz them all. :O
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:51 am
by Sol
Dubby_CompGamerGeek2 wrote:yh, the converter ate my 18k APP, so now i have ***** for turns. :O :'(
![[021.gif] :smt021](./images/smilies/021.gif)
but please don't take away the 1200 that i still have just for a full refill.
I will use them first.

i needz them all. :O
did you have >18 k APP earlier?
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 3:57 am
by Loki™
So now we'll need to use MTs in main to get turn refills?
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:17 am
by Sol
Loki™ wrote:So now we'll need to use MTs in main to get turn refills?
no?
Re: APP - > LF continuous function
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:47 am
by Juliette
Sol wrote:Loki™ wrote:So now we'll need to use MTs in main to get turn refills?
no?
I think Loki refers to the 250,000 APP you get in Main if you use one of the MTs. If you ran out of APP (through an earlier conversion), and assuming you convert ALL your APP for AT, you can basically get a full AT recharge 7 times a week.
