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Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:57 pm
by Ritalin
Sol wrote:
Ritalin wrote:http://demo.visualcaptcha.net/

surely this one cant be hacked??
That's even easier :P.
http://www.teknoids.net/content/hacking ... 9-accuracy

https://code.google.com/p/captchacker/


seems nothing is safe

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:13 pm
by Sol
Ritalin wrote:
Sol wrote:
Ritalin wrote:http://demo.visualcaptcha.net/

surely this one cant be hacked??
That's even easier :P.
http://www.teknoids.net/content/hacking ... 9-accuracy

https://code.google.com/p/captchacker/


seems nothing is safe
captcha's were broken along time ago using an approach similar to neural networks, it's why basically all captcha systems use a variety of methods and not just things like plain text. Recaptcha uses number definitions as well. Fortunately, Google seems to respond to their system when a 'breakthrough' is made.

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 4:24 am
by frans
Stiltwalker is for audio recaptcha.
Captchacker has no mention of working against recaptcha in the first place.

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:01 am
by Borek
As i said before, who, exactly, is script/bot logging into this server anyway? What exactly is the advantage when we have hard-limited AT's?

As i said before you are imposing collective punishment on us all to fix a problem that DOES NOT EXIST IN THE 1ST PLACE!

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:00 pm
by Sol
Borek wrote:As i said before, who, exactly, is script/bot logging into this server anyway? What exactly is the advantage when we have hard-limited AT's?

As i said before you are imposing collective punishment on us all to fix a problem that DOES NOT EXIST IN THE 1ST PLACE!
I caught three accounts before that were scripting. :P
Hard limits on resources have nothing to do with it, it's the fact people put it in hard work and scripters don't. It's not just about farming either, but repairing and massing.

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 12:53 am
by Ritalin
Sol wrote:
Borek wrote:As i said before, who, exactly, is script/bot logging into this server anyway? What exactly is the advantage when we have hard-limited AT's?

As i said before you are imposing collective punishment on us all to fix a problem that DOES NOT EXIST IN THE 1ST PLACE!
I caught three accounts before that were scripting. :P
Hard limits on resources have nothing to do with it, it's the fact people put it in hard work and scripters don't. It's not just about farming either, but repairing and massing.
The thing is, that will happen no matter what u do to the login page, all scripters would have to do it login amd then whatever scripts they are using will work for 3hours and I' know they must be lazy to have to use scripts but they can't be that lazy where they can't even be bothered to log in otherwise why would they even play?

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:19 am
by Sol
Ritalin wrote:
The thing is, that will happen no matter what u do to the login page, all scripters would have to do it login amd then whatever scripts they are using will work for 3hours
Yup, but they have to re-login every three hours, that can't be automated. Unless they plan to wake up and re-login every 3 hours so the script continues, good luck to em.
Ritalin wrote: I' know they must be lazy to have to use scripts but they can't be that lazy where they can't even be bothered to log in otherwise why would they even play?
They would if they were farming or building an account for $$

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:52 am
by Borek
Sol wrote:
Ritalin wrote:
The thing is, that will happen no matter what u do to the login page, all scripters would have to do it login amd then whatever scripts they are using will work for 3hours
Yup, but they have to re-login every three hours, that can't be automated. Unless they plan to wake up and re-login every 3 hours so the script continues, good luck to em.
Ritalin wrote: I' know they must be lazy to have to use scripts but they can't be that lazy where they can't even be bothered to log in otherwise why would they even play?
They would if they were farming or building an account for $$
Umm, what??? No one sells ascended accounts for cash and the amount of time required to build an account that is worth a damn in this game you'd have to spend a week working for McDonalds to earn more you moron!

How about this, how about you give us some proof that it is a problem, if you cannot provide anything you reverse the change, i refuse to suffer this crap just because you want to play about with security on a website when it is not required and just causes the players extra hassle, ultimately hastening the demise of the game.

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 1:54 am
by Borek
Sol wrote:
Borek wrote:As i said before, who, exactly, is script/bot logging into this server anyway? What exactly is the advantage when we have hard-limited AT's?

As i said before you are imposing collective punishment on us all to fix a problem that DOES NOT EXIST IN THE 1ST PLACE!
I caught three accounts before that were scripting. :P
Hard limits on resources have nothing to do with it, it's the fact people put it in hard work and scripters don't. It's not just about farming either, but repairing and massing.
So 3 accounts that you actually CAUGHT since you took over, which is well over a year, and you force us all to put up with this **Filtered**???

Get the **Filtered** out bro with that argument, seriously, just GTHO

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:23 am
by Sol
Borek wrote: How about this, how about you give us some proof that it is a problem, if you cannot provide anything you reverse the change, i refuse to suffer this crap just because you want to play about with security on a website when it is not required and just causes the players extra hassle, ultimately hastening the demise of the game.
Why should I give you proof? To prove would undermine the methods to find.
Pfft, you're like one of a few who find trouble with it. It takes about 3 seconds to type out the word, and maybe once more if you rush it without looking so you have to do it again. It's barely more time consuming than the three letter pin, it just takes a bit more brain power now :roll:
And that is three accounts you know of, I suppose you assume it's my duty to explicitly announce everything that goes on right? :razz:

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 3:11 am
by Clockwork
If it he new captcha is causing you so many problems, why not just change your account details to match main, and login via the 'To Ascended' button, problem solved :smt017

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 4:48 am
by Borek
Sol wrote:
Borek wrote: How about this, how about you give us some proof that it is a problem, if you cannot provide anything you reverse the change, i refuse to suffer this crap just because you want to play about with security on a website when it is not required and just causes the players extra hassle, ultimately hastening the demise of the game.
Why should I give you proof? To prove would undermine the methods to find.
Pfft, you're like one of a few who find trouble with it. It takes about 3 seconds to type out the word, and maybe once more if you rush it without looking so you have to do it again. It's barely more time consuming than the three letter pin, it just takes a bit more brain power now :roll:
And that is three accounts you know of, I suppose you assume it's my duty to explicitly announce everything that goes on right? :razz:
You know what SoL, go **Filtered** yourself, i'll take this to Jason because it's clear you are doing this just to piss people off

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 5:12 am
by PTCACM
I see no problems with captcha its the same time with the old version, maybe in 30 just one was unreadable, everything that helps against scripting is good. But still i think is easy to script, with main to ascended button, you dont even need to have the main logged to be able to press the ascended button, the expired page still works to ascended

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 9:50 am
by Ritalin
Clockwork wrote:If it he new captcha is causing you so many problems, why not just change your account details to match main, and login via the 'To Ascended' button, problem solved :smt017

this is exactly what i thought i would do when i seen the new thing... but it doesnt work for me.. i just get browser errors most of the time and only seems to work when it wants to otherwise it wouldnt be such a problem

Re: OMG WTH is this captcha?????

Posted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 2:26 pm
by Sol
What's your ID ritalin?
The button timesout every hour or so now, so you have to click it shortly after the page loads. Though if it's a browser error it's probably something completely different. What browser are you using?