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Phoenix of Terra wrote:How about you can have a max of two races in your alliance for the bonus to take effect. And if you have two races, they get half the bonus a sungle race could get.

I hope that hasn't been suggested before.

_Rube_Dragon_ wrote:i say ascended players are cutout or in their own section so that acended beings of the same race have to hang together so yuo coudlnet have an ori and Tolan in an allience you get what im saying? and i think that the acended players shoudl get a smaller bonus . nonacended players need more help uasally.

Tetrismonkey wrote:Humm, this idea is kind of wierd. Let me post some of my concerns first.

First off, you could jsut abuse this, like said before, having whole allinaces of Asgard to hold naq and Tauri for attack. This could be called sstratagy yes, but if inactives are just added, then its not strategy, its taking advantage of the game.

The thing is though, that higher you are ascended, more bonus you are supose to get, so, im not real good with numbers, but it still looks like no one has come up with a great idea on how to fix it.

Solution-
20 member max to this effect.

1% bonus to allinace for each member of that race
EX:2 asgard
1 Tauri
3 Gou'uld
Bonusnes- 2%defense
1%attack
3%income

Thats just for non ascnded.

For ascended, each time you ascend, you gain an extra .2% increase each ascended time.
EX:
5 System Lords
1 Prior
1 Prophet
1 Messiah
1 Incarnate
1 Living God
1 Living God+1
Bonuses: 1.2% Prior
1.4% Prophet
1.6% Messiah
1.8% Incarnate
2.0% Living God
2.1% Living God+1 (adds only .1% after LG+1 to limit so much power)


So now seeing this, you can tell that more you are ascended, the more power you gain not only for yourself, but for your alinace. Just like in the show, the collective of the Ascended could cast anyone down. This way we kinda merge ascended play more into this game, but still keeping with the idea of bonus to allinace mates. Again like the show, the replicators had power from numbers! I hope you all get the relationship between the 2.

Anyways, for one last example, heres a random allinace make up for bonus with this formula. Also, if you have more in an allinace than 20, who ever joins the allinace after the 20th person, will not count to the bonuses.

20 persson allinace.
5 asgard
2 anctents, both Priors
1 system Lord, Living god +2
6 Tollan, all Messiahs
2 Goa'uld
4 Replicators


Bonus Count:
Defense-7.4%
Attack-7.8%
Covert-4%
Income-4.2%

I hope you all understand this!!

I know this can be abused, with the numbers I put in, 40%+ if all are anceints LG+1s, but the numbers can be ajusted to smaller amounts, maybe cut in half!!

But this way we fix the way to abuse it, and to add in for the asended.

Bob_2007 wrote:

_Rube_Dragon_ wrote:i dont think taking away bonuses for mixed alliance would be a good thing cause the would take away peoples freedom to have whatever kin of alliance they want.

And this would make mixed race alliances more fragile and less stable... Isn't that the point, isn't that how they *should* be? It doesn't take away anybody's freedom to have whatever kind they want, though...

Of course the "penalty" for having a mixed race alliance just needs to be thought out, so as to make it not "crippling" so much as at a slight disadvantage which could be compensated for with larger numbers...

Also still very interested to see if there's any possibility of a small bonus for those flying solo... I love flying solo...

Apophis The Great wrote:Hmmm I believe to bring back the aspect of caring in races, no bonus for total mixed alliances should come in!

R1cardo wrote:like being said, bonus for race alliance. make it worth wild to consider changing to 1.

players that play whitout alliance chould get full bonus

also like the idea off getting the same officers in order to maintain full bonus. so no mixed stuff.

if it promotes race wars more, ever so slightly why not do it.
just make it not negligable.
isn't that the reason why this game is here.
for races to fight eachother.

just wanted to post it before i didn't get the occasion to put in my 2 cents.

repli pride all the way

Semper wrote:Maybe an income bonus for an alliance made up of the same species, but otherwise I see no reason why there is anything wrong with the system now. If you want to turn round and say to me that in the series it wouldnt be like this, well I will point out to you, that a Goauld cannot ascend, Anubis only ascended because Oma let him and he tricked her. The asgard are supremely powerful and would have a defense, strike and income bonus far beyond anything the other races have. The tauri would be way more covert with a far less adept defense, and possibly stirke then the other races, then the replicators, who should probably have the same bonus' as the asgard! OH! and there would by no means be about 20,000 system lords! The Goa'uld and replicators would be only able to form temporary alliances and to top it off, there would be a main ori faction. SOOOOO. That argument clearly dosent stand to reason.

There are tactics in SGW...when and where to strike, ho to strike, what to do first, they are all tactics. How to set up ones account so it is affective. Just because there are some fools out there who mindlessly mass dosent mean everyone is so foolish. Beyond what there is, there cannot be many more tactics.

So I see little need for all this fuss. But if your that determined to get it, why then I think you should have the number of system lords decreased, or get a main Ori faction...or I dunno...there is nothing that can be done. Tons of the game are now ascended, it is a jolly good example of ordered chaos.

Semper wrote:Maybe an income bonus for an alliance made up of the same species, but otherwise I see no reason why there is anything wrong with the system now. If you want to turn round and say to me that in the series it wouldnt be like this, well I will point out to you, that a Goauld cannot ascend, Anubis only ascended because Oma let him and he tricked her. The asgard are supremely powerful and would have a defense, strike and income bonus far beyond anything the other races have. The tauri would be way more covert with a far less adept defense, and possibly stirke then the other races, then the replicators, who should probably have the same bonus' as the asgard! OH! and there would by no means be about 20,000 system lords! The Goa'uld and replicators would be only able to form temporary alliances and to top it off, there would be a main ori faction. SOOOOO. That argument clearly dosent stand to reason.

There are tactics in SGW...when and where to strike, ho to strike, what to do first, they are all tactics. How to set up ones account so it is affective. Just because there are some fools out there who mindlessly mass dosent mean everyone is so foolish. Beyond what there is, there cannot be many more tactics.

So I see little need for all this fuss. But if your that determined to get it, why then I think you should have the number of system lords decreased, or get a main Ori faction...or I dunno...there is nothing that can be done. Tons of the game are now ascended, it is a jolly good example of ordered chaos.

Semper wrote:lol..income bonus' would also help you. Or wait a tick..maybe the goauld shouldnt have an income bonus. what sort of half arsed argument is that? lol..