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~Zekk~ wrote:

ingame updates page wrote:UP planets - like attack,covert and defense planets - are now limited to 50% of your natural UP EACH, or the UP addition of the planet, whichever is higher.

the 50% rule is the same as it is for the other planets. if you have a 20k raw up and a 20k planet, so long as the raw is higher then the planet even by 1(or theoretically, perfectly even), then the total will be 40k. only if the planet is higher then the raw, even by 1, will the 50% rule take effect.



~Zekk~

aha, ok .. well then, the update is THAT bad anymore. . lol ..your raw Up just ahs to be bigger by 1 as your bigegst UP planet .. damn ... why everybody is crying? it isn´t that hard to get a raw Up as high as your UP planet .... the most UP planets have like what? 10k? c´mon ...

MEZZANINE wrote:This upgrade sucks.

Many players ascending or planning to ascend get completely screwed by this upgrade, they don't want to waste Naq on RAW UP because they'll lose it ascending. Big fully ascended players can invest in RAW UP and wont be effected anywhere near as much.

This will seriously stunt the growth of smaller accounts while the big accounts keep growing.

Good intentions I'm sure, but the upgrade needs removing, stamping up and down on, shredding, setting fire to and burying in an unmarked grave.

raw up makes the ascended account stronger. if you dont want to play ascension, then dont ascend. its a waste of time and eventually admin is gonna put the hurt on people ascending just for the bonuses.

and yes Achaiah i agree, the whining over this is quite pointless...if anything, the extra raw will make peoples UP bigger...


~Zekk~

MEZZANINE wrote:This upgrade sucks.

Many players ascending or planning to ascend get completely screwed by this upgrade, they don't want to waste Naq on RAW UP because they'll lose it ascending. Big fully ascended players can invest in RAW UP and wont be effected anywhere near as much.

This will seriously stunt the growth of smaller accounts while the big accounts keep growing.

Good intentions I'm sure, but the upgrade needs removing, stamping up and down on, shredding, setting fire to and burying in an unmarked grave.

as a person who built his account from the ground up and busted his butt to do so i know that ANYONE can get to where they want to be in this game if they want to and put the work in to get there. if you are unwilling to do the work blame yourself. i had to raise my raw UP and yes it will make my ascension much more expensive but i can still afford it. a good player will deal with whatever given to him and overcome it somehow. when the situation changes, you changes your tactics. static playing leads to stagnant accounts. dynamic tactics and constantly finding work arounds to obstacles thrown in your path are what makes a small player into a big player.

noone said it would be easy, and i think it will make it a little bit harder but i think anyone worth their salt can overcome this.

i'm a UP planet proponent BTW and i dont like the update but i can work around it, it will not slow me down.

raw up makes the ascended account stronger. if you dont want to play ascension, then dont ascend. its a waste of time and eventually admin is gonna put the hurt on people ascending just for the bonuses.

If you don't ascend and you have to fight someone who is ascended, your losses are horrible, even if you win, thats why most players want to ascend. The ascended server is a pale shadow of the main server.

Just for the record I'm not sounding off just on my own behalf, I've almost finished ascending and already have a decent ascended account so this upgrade wont affect me for long, I'm thinking of the poor players who are just starting to ascend and how this will hold them back.

i haven´t ascended at all, nor do i have a big army, but the update didn´t affected me at all

MEZZANINE wrote:

raw up makes the ascended account stronger. if you dont want to play ascension, then dont ascend. its a waste of time and eventually admin is gonna put the hurt on people ascending just for the bonuses.

If you don't ascend and you have to fight someone who is ascended, your losses are horrible, even if you win, thats why most players want to ascend. The ascended server is a pale shadow of the main server.

Just for the record I'm not sounding off just on my own behalf, I've almost finished ascending and already have a decent ascended account so this upgrade wont affect me for long, I'm thinking of the poor players who are just starting to ascend and how this will hold them back.

being strong isn't cheap, you have to work you butt off for it and if people arent willing to make sacrifices to become stronger then they dont deserve to wield the strength that they envy so much.

all this update does is change afew gameplay styles. and as i said elsewhere some people could even take advantage of it.



~Zekk~

Achaiah wrote:

~Zekk~ wrote:

ingame updates page wrote:UP planets - like attack,covert and defense planets - are now limited to 50% of your natural UP EACH, or the UP addition of the planet, whichever is higher.

the 50% rule is the same as it is for the other planets. if you have a 20k raw up and a 20k planet, so long as the raw is higher then the planet even by 1(or theoretically, perfectly even), then the total will be 40k. only if the planet is higher then the raw, even by 1, will the 50% rule take effect.



~Zekk~

aha, ok .. well then, the update is THAT bad anymore. . lol ..your raw Up just ahs to be bigger by 1 as your bigegst UP planet .. damn ... why everybody is crying? it isn´t that hard to get a raw Up as high as your UP planet .... the most UP planets have like what? 10k? c´mon ...

thats a total lie, i have 4 6k up planets and my basic up is 8k but i still lost over 10k a a day

then you shouldn´t have lost any number of Up ... strange ... means it is really just the 50% rule ...

scor wrote:

Achaiah wrote:

~Zekk~ wrote:

ingame updates page wrote:UP planets - like attack,covert and defense planets - are now limited to 50% of your natural UP EACH, or the UP addition of the planet, whichever is higher.

the 50% rule is the same as it is for the other planets. if you have a 20k raw up and a 20k planet, so long as the raw is higher then the planet even by 1(or theoretically, perfectly even), then the total will be 40k. only if the planet is higher then the raw, even by 1, will the 50% rule take effect.



~Zekk~

aha, ok .. well then, the update is THAT bad anymore. . lol ..your raw Up just ahs to be bigger by 1 as your bigegst UP planet .. damn ... why everybody is crying? it isn´t that hard to get a raw Up as high as your UP planet .... the most UP planets have like what? 10k? c´mon ...

thats a total lie, i have 4 6k up planets and my basic up is 8k but i still lost over 10k a ady

well by what the updates say you shouldnt have. try emailing admin about it and see if its a bug.



~Zekk~

Great idea and long overdue imo.
Besides, building up your raw up to the level you need is just as expensive as building up one extra up planet, maybe a bit more... It does annoy guys still ascending with min. UP but you`ll have stronger ascended accounts on account of this heh

ok cool, whats his address?

scor wrote:ok cool, whats his address?

look on the bottom any page ingame and you'll find multiple ways to contact the GM's and admins.

or, i think someone said he's going to be in the sgw chat again in 3 hours.



~ZekK~

Before you complain about this do some math people :

20k raw UP = 333 bil naq
10k huge UP planet = 139 bil naq

you can add at least 100 bil for a decent defense on that planet

Any sane player would work to get at least 4-5 UP planets at 10k level before starting to upgrade that.

So ..... if you had a minimum of 1 tril to get a minimum of 4 good UP planets and you haven't invested 30% of that into raw UP ..... you clearly aren't made for this game.


If you do this for smaller players :

10k raw UP = 83 bil
5k large UP planet = 47 bil

the extra defense will bring you at least at the same level with a 10k UP, which can't be attacked and is 2 times bigger for the same ammount of naq invested.

So unless you can come with some REAL arguments STHU.

ok i'll wait
but a chat, there will be thousands trying to talk to him
i wonder if he will change my forum name to Sadistic Angel, the first time i registard i put in the wrong email address.

scor wrote:ok i'll wait
but a chat, there will be thousands trying to talk to him
i wonder if he will change my forum name to Sadistic Angel, the first time i registard i put in the wrong email address.

its usually only afew dozen i think.

not everyone knows about the admin chats and on top of that, that many people wouldnt care OR wouldnt be able to make it. so i doubt there'll be thousands in it.



~Zekk~