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Re: basically

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:08 pm
by Reaperman
RangerPst wrote:for most of u with the attitude that it is a good enhancement oh lets see u have been playing how long 2yrs another a yr oh well huh u got ur army just where u want it basically u, with this have just locked all the smaller ppl from ever getting to ur level, so as u keep getting bigger and bigger we keep struggling to stay alive. not one have u have taken this from our perpective. Basically unless something is done, I am done you guys enjoy the game i think i will go buy a chess board and teach my kids how to play or i know maybe i will take up needlepoint for my money contributitions to this game and server just ended


most of us who have been playig for 2 years played for the main part without UP planets at all so get over it dude.

anyone who depends solely on UP planets is not exactly bright anyway imo. Planets are easily stolen which is why although, yes. they are a great bonus. you should never stop working your raw cos when your planets get nicked you need raw t keep you growing.

Being sensible, I'm pleased to say that this update has had 0 effect on my total UP :P

Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:27 pm
by Myseri
Yea mate, it isn't hard to boost your self that much based on your own UP. But as everyone says, you are quite dumb to have not worked on your RAW even if you are ascending.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 1:06 am
by TheRook
~Zekk~ wrote:before this update it only took 10 UP planets and about 28trill naq to get a 500k UP, that's way to easy.

Now its going to be harder, as it should be.

Also - theres about 3 other threads for this already...



~Zekk~


to do this now they need to spend another 10-15 trill to get 100k base up so they will have 600k UP which will be enough for 50k on each up planet :)

Well does not matter

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 2:57 am
by Solar Pain
Anyway, now that i have exposed myself i have TOK'RA sitting on my account and he alreadt took one of my planets and i tried to build my ms up so i could try to get it back and as soon as i had any money sitting out he hit me and took it so as of this moment and as soon as i can dismantle my account i am done with this bullcrap and anyways i need to go out and find a life outside this mayhem of college kids and 18yr old and younger punks that have nothing better to do in life. So as i stated i am done may u all grow up one day and realize there are more important things in life than to sit in front of a monitor and play video games.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:06 am
by Juliette
Technically, this thread should be in the "Quitting" section, as you expressed your desire / desperation to leave in the first post...


'tis a shame though. Sorry to see you go. Silly Tok'ra... *sigh*

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:22 am
by Sleipnir
Try looking at it from this side. Those planets should have been limited in the first place. All the time that they weren't, they have produced massive amounts of units for you. You get to keep those. All of us who have never even seen a UP planet up close will now never have the chance to exploit them to the fullest.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:25 am
by *Crowley
just a stupid thought but...

isn't there allready a topic on this in the place where it should be:

Discussion on Enhancements (ones already released)

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:31 am
by Quina Quen
Sleipnir wrote:Try looking at it from this side. Those planets should have been limited in the first place. All the time that they weren't, they have produced massive amounts of units for you. You get to keep those. All of us who have never even seen a UP planet up close will now never have the chance to exploit them to the fullest.


One of the best comments on this thread and my sentiments exactly.

Would someone like to do the maths on the difference in cost of

a) stealing 10 UP planets with an average of 1bn defence, raising them to 5k producing (so to a total UP of 50k)

b) actually raising your raw UP to 50k.

Note, that I haven't done this already, so I could surprised, but I know for certain that the cost of raw UP will eventually be incredibly greater than the cost to do the same with planets alone. And the more planets, the cheaper it is, ie. 10x10k UP against 100k raw UP.

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:01 am
by ~Zekk~
Diamond Dust wrote:
Sleipnir wrote:Try looking at it from this side. Those planets should have been limited in the first place. All the time that they weren't, they have produced massive amounts of units for you. You get to keep those. All of us who have never even seen a UP planet up close will now never have the chance to exploit them to the fullest.


One of the best comments on this thread and my sentiments exactly.

Would someone like to do the maths on the difference in cost of

a) stealing 10 UP planets with an average of 1bn defence, raising them to 5k producing (so to a total UP of 50k)

b) actually raising your raw UP to 50k.

Note, that I haven't done this already, so I could surprised, but I know for certain that the cost of raw UP will eventually be incredibly greater than the cost to do the same with planets alone. And the more planets, the cheaper it is.


a) cost to get a tiny planet from 10, to huge(larger planets give more power per upgrade) and 50k - 2.4trill. a little over 3trill after slaping a 30bill defense on it.

b) cost to get raw UP to 50k from 0 - just under 2.1trill.

Why I said that its cheaper for the planets(before the update), is because you only had to pay that 3trill about 10 times and you had a 500k UP.

The cost to get raw from 0 to 500k is 208,333,750,000,000. 30trill, vs 208trill. yeah...

And TheRook, if you'll notice i said that these calcs are from before the update - of course its gonna cost more now. and its good that way. ;)



~Zekk~ - (the calcs in this post work from before and after the update - they simply dont take into account the new 50% rule, which means you have to spend about 8-20trill more.)

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 5:02 am
by Bad Wolf fan
The game moves all the time, the best players are the ones who move with the times.

BWF

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:03 am
by S T I
sorry if some one has said this, but it effects ascending, now people will have to increase their base up ( to get most from planets), thus taking a lot more app up with them each ascension, plus taking more out of their accounts.

This will make stronger accounts being formed in ascesion, so hope fully a far better game situation for all.

nice up date, jason :D

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:17 am
by TheRook
S T I wrote:sorry if some one has said this, but it effects ascending, now people will have to increase their base up ( to get most from planets), thus taking a lot more app up with them each ascension, plus taking more out of their accounts.

This will make stronger accounts being formed in ascesion, so hope fully a far better game situation for all.

nice up date, jason :D


here here

if the fact that people will get more powerful ascended accounts comes out of this update then thats good :D

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:18 am
by *Crowley
TheRook wrote:
if the fact that people will get more powerful ascended accounts comes out of this update then thats good :D


yeps: higher raw UP, more ascension power points

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:24 am
by Mystake
too all the ppl saying bout how much it costs to get a up from from zero to hero


what about nicking a planet that SOMEONE ELSE put their money into? Eh?

Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:36 am
by Quina Quen
S T I wrote:
nice up date, jason :D


It's even more refreshing to see another of the biggest players agree with the update